Boardwalk Empire Mafia: Pick Your Power

On April 03 2013 13:53 Mocsta wrote:

Not you!!

Im trying to reduce the spam OK!

On April 03 2013 23:31 Sn0_Man wrote:
Just "bumping" my PSA that I'm picking [1][1] so if you don't want to pick dead last with me you should probably avoid joining me.

On April 04 2013 00:11 Sn0_Man wrote:
It's like rock paper scissors but I tell you before hand I'm picking rock.

DELICIOUS WIFOM.

On April 04 2013 14:32 yamato77 wrote:

The point of the game is winning. If you want to be retarded and pick a "cool" role and then proceed to use it to lose town the game, it is not fun for everyone else. Inhibiting mafia's ability to pick ridiculous roles is inherently necessary to ensuring that town succeeds. Don't be stupid.

You also fail to understand the mechanic. By assigning a player MOST or ALL people agree is probably town a role that MAIFA wants, we effectively deny mafia the role.

On April 04 2013 14:49 yamato77 wrote:
Is denying mafia a janitor role, which denies town CRUCIAL information (player's alignments) or getting a cop role, which gives one person in town UNRELIABLE information more important.

It pains ME to have to walk YOU through this. Mafia are hurt more through the denial of good roles than town are. Town's most powerful asset is INHERENT TO THE GAME, which is their ability to scumhunt.

Do you feel like you need to rely on a role to win as town? Do you feel that way as mafia? Think about these questions, and then come back to me with a more definite answer.

On April 04 2013 19:33 strongandbig wrote:
Afaik pyp games are often determined by "this bullshit". The picking phase strategy is a big part of the game.

And I sort of agree with denying scum roles, but we should limit it to one or maybe two roles, because if we have strong consensus townies early in the order then giving them actual good roles could be very powerful.

Also oats the draft order is public knowledge.

On April 04 2013 19:58 Restraining Order wrote:
The thing is denying mafia roles doesn't work too well anyways, and on top of that, if you try to coordinate it, it works even less.

The rolecop-rolevig combo alone has 2-3 possibilities on either end of the deal. (rolecop, capitalist, extractor & assassin, rolevig)
Sure, you might be a hero and get exactly the one they try to pick, but it's a crapshoot, and mafia inherently has the pickorder advantage due to possible coordination.

Rather, think about it like this: certain roles are not desireable for mafia to pick. Those roles, you don't pick early in the draft order. This includes all investigative roles (apart from rolecop), dreamflower, things like that. Not picking those in, say, the upper half, will mean more roles for town overall.
But having VTs is also very informative, so you really don't need to mind either way.

On April 04 2013 19:58 Oatsmaster wrote:



K right.

So we could just assign roles to all the people.

And if they dont picked the assigned role, we kill them, and if they use their role in a way that benefits scum we kill them.

And this will totally break the game as PYP, no?

On April 04 2013 21:28 Caller wrote:

oi don't need to argue in specfc's, and i bloody don't need no traction. i'z just not gonna participate in yo shoddy scummy plan. dat' gonna ruin it neat as punch. I loik it when i can stomp on some git's planz without any effo't

On April 04 2013 22:10 Mocsta wrote:

Seriously, your starting to piss me off.

Find where I state I will believe the claim?

I am saying it is a tool that can be used to catch liars blah blah later down the track.