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Don't worry about who I am, worry about how I play. That's the point of this exercise anyway. | ||
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On March 25 2013 04:26 Hapahauli wrote: I KNOW WHO YOU ARE MR SMURF DON'T OUT ME TO THE THREAD AND DON'T USE META BECAUSE I'M CHANGING IT INTENTIONALLY. <3 Hapa | ||
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On March 26 2013 11:53 strongandbig wrote: Why are you trying to imitate blazing hand trying to imitate his own meta? Everyone plz discuss dandel ion. Gladly. When I read through Dandel's filter, I have an extremely difficult time finding any coherent thought process to his game. He posts quite a few spammy, nonsensical posts that have very little purpose aside from simply adding pages to the thread. Observe: On March 26 2013 08:07 Dandel Ion wrote: Also, your name is too complacted and I already call you rainpelikan in my mind, so you're now stuck with that. It's offical, and won't be changed. On March 26 2013 08:10 Dandel Ion wrote: Hi thar, pink unicorn. Or maybe your parents really called you Hapa, in which case, my condolences. On March 26 2013 10:38 Dandel Ion wrote: I detect unnecessarily large quantities of mad. Might be colored in red. Or purple. Maybe a dash of yellow in there. Can not be sure yet. Now, the question is, how does Dandel normally start a game as mafia? To answer that we have to find the last game he was scum in: British Empire 2 How do you characterize that filter? To me, it's very similar to this game. he starts the game with random nonsensical bullshit and silly attempts at trolling and scumhunting. Especially striking is the resemblance between his early "push" of DrH in that game and Marvellosity in this game. Again, observe: From British On March 05 2013 10:06 Dandel Ion wrote: Instead of using instant majority to make the days longer, we should use it to make them faster! ##Vote DrHelvetica Gogo! On March 05 2013 10:14 Dandel Ion wrote: I am now 110% sure On March 05 2013 10:16 Dandel Ion wrote: You're not seeing the bigger picture. Too concerned with your own survival too. Certainity is rising to 130% From RED On March 26 2013 08:12 Dandel Ion wrote: What a scummy bandwagon of scum. Hey Acro, come over here. Let's tunnel marv. It'll be fun. On March 26 2013 08:27 Dandel Ion wrote: Why wouldn't he be? That's how I plan on finding scum. The scum besides marv, that is. On March 26 2013 08:37 Dandel Ion wrote: I don't see how I'm supposed to be provoking you either, I'm just calling you scum. If you get mad cause I'm so correct and awesome, not much I can do about that. These sorts of early shenanigans develop similarly both games. He offhandedly calls someone scum for little to no reason, and then needlessly trolls that person and pushes this read on the thread. Again, he is spammy in his pushes as mafia and rarely provides any real justification for anything he does that is longer than a single line. The meta similarity is just a part of why I think Dandel is mafia. Revisiting the quotes above where Dandel attacks Marvellosity, we see a clear mafia motivation: attack a player who is known for being emotional and overreacting to these sorts of things. Marvel makes a salient point in that Dandel SHOULD know better, as he bore witness to this. However, Dandel persists in the same sort of trollish way he has this entire game. The only other thing that even looks like a real read in his filter is his support of Palmar, which is in the same vein of his entire play; nonsensical, and without justification. While being a sheep doesn't make him scum necessarily, the fact that he has since bowed out of the thread entirely is suspicious. So far, it looks like he's fishing around for a good place for his vote; mild suspicion here, random name-calling here, and then he finally sees a high-profile player come in and proclaim someone mafia, so he jumps on it. So instead of letting this spammy, scummy fucker slip by under the shadow of Palmar, why don't we lynch him instead? ##Vote: Dandel Ion | ||
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From your filter, that is what I surmise is your opinion of him already. If that's the case, I guess you're content to let him lurk away the rest of day 1 as he intends? Or...? | ||
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Regardless, you seem a little too content to let him do nothing but troll this game. Your faith that he is going so magically do something different than he has so far is misplaced, in my opinion. | ||
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Fine, we'll play the waiting game you suggest. In the mean time, I'll look through some other filters. His was simply the most egregious at the moment. Hopefully some of the lurkier players like sinani and nisani start posting more. | ||
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On March 26 2013 13:01 Acrofales wrote: Meh. Later in the game. No alarm bells have gone off yet. DI will spam fluff regardless of alignment. Later on in D1 and as the game continues I expect more from him. Voting for him now is basically a policy lynch on his playstyle. Imho, there is nothing indicative of alignment from him so far. What do you think of Palmar? Palmar looks town. He always comes in the thread saying someone is scum or lynch someone in every game I've played with him. I've never seen scum Palmar, so perhaps I am biased, but he seems earnest in his attempts to lead town. As for his target, grack, I'm not as convinced as he is. The guy is timid, sure, but a short filter this early in the game does not a scum make. I'm more willing to let that play out organically. The fact that Palmar comes in the thread firing away at this player obviously makes it so that he's even more aware of how he's posting, which makes it seem even weirder. While it's nothing against Palmar, it does make it more difficult to know if this is just Grack's general mentality as a player or if it is just a result of the pressure he feels. | ||
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I specifically remember games like Personality where he makes REASONED posts as town and manages to look town. This game, he has FAILED to do that. Is it that difficult to understand? Perhaps he has yet to do some kind of awesome townie move, as you suggest, but I remain skeptical. I'll concede that the opening point wasn't an overly strong one. Obviously you've managed to prove that he trolls as town. Grand, so I guess we just ignore him until he doesn't troll. | ||
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I think you're a good enough player to know how people read you, Hapa. | ||
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On March 26 2013 13:51 Acrofales wrote: I am really surprised that you have Hapa down as obvious town. I don't think it's that obvious at all. Especially given Hapa's rather tricksy scumplay. Yeah, no. | ||
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Corazon. That dude's filter is a lot of nothing. Many other players have managed to take stances and interact with the thread on at least a basic level, but he's currently completely flying under the radar. | ||
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On March 26 2013 23:31 InsertSmurfHere wrote: You know who I really haven't seen anything out of today at all? Corazon. That dude's filter is a lot of nothing. Many other players have managed to take stances and interact with the thread on at least a basic level, but he's currently completely flying under the radar. To expand upon this, when Cora is town he at least does something, normally aggressive. Here he's kind of playing third-party to the stuff going on in the thread. The most he's written about it the stupid role PM thing, which is concerning. I would expect him to have honestly attempted some line of suspicion by now. | ||
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On March 26 2013 23:34 marvellosity wrote: What distinguishes Corazon to you, as opposed to say prplhz? Prplhz I have seen be lurky early as town, but by the end of day 1 I expect to know his alignment. He's good enough as town to put forth effort justifying his suspicions. Cora I have not seen act this lurky early. Perhaps it is too early, but as I said, my expectation is for him to be more involved than even his current posting suggests he is with this game. | ||
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Like I said, my experience with town Dandel is that he does make decent reads that have some sort of logic behind them. I had seen none of that at that point, so I made known my suspicion of him. The jury is still out on that one, but he looks better for having some reason for attacking Marv than he did before. | ||
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On March 26 2013 23:54 Oatsmaster wrote: You understand that that reason is cause 'I dont see any towntells' as opposed to marv is scum cause *post* Is that a valid reason in your opinion or not? I don't think he's right, obviously. I've seen plenty of town Marv games where Marv doesn't even try to look town. However, it's not if he's right or if I agree with him, it's that he simply justifies what he's doing with something beyond a troll post and seems actually confident in it. Like his suspicion of me. It's total OMGUS but I don't think he's scum for it. | ||
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On March 27 2013 00:00 Oatsmaster wrote: So if I do stupid shit but wholeheartadly go with it and give some weird reason I am town? What universe do you live in? Response to Palmers suspicion GOOO Palmar is calling me scum because my case is bad, just like the rest of you. I fail to see how it's anything special. And yes, sometimes people do stupid shit I never agree with and that lets me know they are town. And yes, you are one of them. | ||
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On March 26 2013 23:59 Dandel Ion wrote: Horseshit. You were doing this: "let's see how scum Dandel normally opens his games! Oh my that looks similar to this game! I won't even check any of his town games and call him scum just for the hell of it hey guys look how protown and scumhunting I am!" Now you do this: "Oh shit I made a terrible case on a townie BACKPEDALBACKPEDAL" In my case on you I clearly said I expected better from you, Dandel. My experience from the first British and Personality is that you aren't just a troll, but as I see you just need time to flower. | ||
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On March 27 2013 00:06 Oatsmaster wrote: Too many townreads dude. Who is scum, now that Dandel Ion isnt? I already told you that Corazon is currently flying under the radar while contributing next-to-nothing aside from random comments on OO' role PM shit. | ||
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