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Grackaroni
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Grackaroni
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On March 26 2013 10:29 raynpelikoneet wrote: And given that you don't (at least you should not) know prplhz's alignment how exactly is it not beneficial to see how he reacts to the case first? The case is so weak that there wouldn't be any reaction worth watching. if it were me I would probably just ignore it. | ||
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Grackaroni
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On March 26 2013 10:53 Palmar wrote: Hello thread. I have concluded that Grackaroni is scum. Please lynch him. ##Vote Grackaroni Any reason in particular? | ||
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Grackaroni
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I mean that Sinani is using scummy logic. (he is misconstruing something that should not be alignment indicative and using it against OO to say that he is scum.) This is my first game in a long time and I am having some trouble finding where I need to focus. But I am giving reads and I will continue to do so. | ||
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Grackaroni
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On March 26 2013 11:19 Palmar wrote: If you're town I'm about to mislynch you grack. Do something to convince me you're not scum. I really don't think you will. Give me something in the thread you want me to respond to and I will give you my opinion. (not much has stood out to me so far). By the way I'm just curious. Do you remember me from any other games? | ||
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Grackaroni
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I can see why that post may have looked scummy. I didn't make my message clear and it looked like I wasn't giving any opinion. I intended for it to be directed at Sinani because I believe him using that as a reason to push the lynch onto OO is much scummier than OO actually not reading his role PM. the only hesitation I have (and it's a small one) is that in Werewolves I walked into the pm chat and you (as scum) just said that I was scummy after one line and used pushing me as your way of contributing to the thread. (it's possible that you are looking for me to omgus in a fit of anger and dig my own grave) Despite this hesitation I do believe your posting is townie and I think you want to scumhunt but some past experiences with you do scare me. | ||
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Grackaroni
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@ISH Why didn't you bother to look up a town game of Dandel Ion? | ||
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No..... I know what you dislike. I didn't say anything about what I think of Dandel Ion or ISH in that post. But I wasn't intending to because I haven't drawn any conclusions on them from it. All i am saying is that I dislike the case and for good reason. | ||
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Grackaroni
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On March 26 2013 15:08 Keirathi wrote: Anyways, I'm much more interested in Grack right now. I wasn't particularly awed by Palmar's vote/case and Hapa's input, but his interactions afterward have been much worse IMO. He doesn't call out the bullshit vote. He panics, and questions it to figure out what he did wrong. I don't know any townie who reacts to a random vote on themselves by saying "OH GOD WHAT DID I DO?" Some get mad at the 'bad' play, some ignore it completely, and some vote the person back. But, even more than that: He's looking for a way out. He doesn't volunteer information, he wants to know what information Palmar wants, so that he can give the "right" answer, rather than a "real" answer. And finally: The bolded points feel like more "oh crap, I re-read my posts and realize I made some mistakes. Time for damage control". Like, he was already looking back at his posts to see how they LOOKED. His first reaction was to apologize for how they were perceived. THEN he explains himself better. It betrays his mindset of caring about his appearance. I don't know what you're talking about Palmar... you did get a couple sheep. This case is weak from Keirathi. Palmar's I could at least understand and actually kind of agree with. Betrays the mindset of caring about his appearance? What kind of logic is that? Of course I care about my appearance, I would prefer to not be the first one lynched. That doesn't point to something I would only do if I was scum. and there's not much to me not omgusing Palmar, he seems to be putting in the effort to scumhunt so I don't think he is scum. It irritates me when OO attacks me when he obviously hasn't read the thread and just saw Palmar attacking me and filtered me to throw some shit. @Palmar: any comment on Marv? You guys know each other pretty well. He hasn't taken any sort of stance as well and has shown complete apathy towards scumhunting so far, despite being here more often than others. | ||
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Grackaroni
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On March 26 2013 13:52 Nisani201 wrote: Acrofales seemed to be making a lot of sense at the beginning of the game and now he's looking really bad. He said this: The joking stage of the game is over and he's still trying to drag it on into seriousness. And looking back at his filter, he said a lot of things about how people should be interpreting OO's words without putting in his own opinion. And in general there isn't much real content in his filter. I think he's scum. ##vote acrofales I have noticed that Acro seemed to be too focused on interpreting OO but this case is scummy and seems forced. Acro has done plenty of other things and has commented on other things besides OO but the only thing you're going to mention is that he is focused on OO? | ||
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On March 26 2013 20:59 Palmar wrote: I'm not ready to comment on marv's play yet. Well your mostly just commenting on me... hypocrite! | ||
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On March 26 2013 21:04 Palmar wrote: you're* Also how is that hypocritical? It's discriminative, but not hypocritical. Yeah I saw that but I didn't want to triple post  You accuse me of not taking a stance in the thread BUT you only make one stance in the thread AND it's ON the person who hasn't taken a stance in the thread! Without me you've got no stance! but enough of this because it is pointless. | ||
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On March 26 2013 21:22 Palmar wrote: Actually I also took a stance towards smurf's case on DI. Well then I took a stance towards Sinani's case on OO. I've got to go to class right now. And I don't want to hear any "where's Grack to counter. . . " | ||
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Grackaroni
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On March 26 2013 14:08 ObviousOne wrote: ==Some thoughts on today's action== + Show Spoiler + On March 26 2013 10:42 raynpelikoneet wrote: The problem with meta in this prplhz case is that it's the easiest thing in the world to fake. Even the dumbest idiot could probably fake their "town meta" by posting some general advice as their first post. Other than that part, you are right. Broken out, preserving the interaction above: I thought about this sentence for a while. I probably thought about it for too long. It might even be nothing. I thought about what a Rayn might be implying here, assuming town: If we emphasize the "don't" and following parenthesis, the implication here is that Rayn is calling out Kei for shutting down a potentially useful avenue of information. Okay, I get that. I thought about what Rayn might be implying here, assuming mafia: If we emphasize the "given that you" portion, we get a scum claim. I don't know Rayn, and I can't reference the only other recent game since it's ongoing, so I want to say it's believe from a town mindset as an accusation against Kei derailing SNB's poorly constructed case. The alternative is a tired mind, ready for sleep, just posting for the sake of posting and literally claiming scum in the thread. So this interaction took me to Keirathi's filter where I found myself in a land of opinion-less posts and pseudo-random votes. This is not the town voice of Keirathi I remember from the Hydra game we played in together. It reminds me more of the safer and more timid Keirathi of 6 months ago, which was a safe way to play... the only town points in his favor IMO are that he derailed SNB's case for the right reason. (An addendum for later--) It's demonstrably fact that Keirathi has essentially defended prplhz by attacking SNB's case which says nothing now about them individually but should be remembered in the late stages of the game if it's still pertinent. Right now based on signal-to-noise ratio of Keirathi's filter, I'm calling him scum. What do you guys think? The first part of this post is completely useless. You seem to be trying to scream to the thread that you are really thinking about who is scum by repeatedly saying "I thought about this sentence for a while... too long in fact. I just kept thinking about it!" when it concluded absolutely nothing and Rayne's post wasn't even worth looking at in the first place. His accusation of Keirathi seems rather weak to me as well. On March 26 2013 15:39 ObviousOne wrote: Grack reads like he's ready to become an echo of thread sentiment. By admission this is a return to the game and he may be a bit rusty for that. I liked: Lack of forthcoming reads about people he's asking questions about is kind of weird, him espousing as much is highlighted here: Calling out sinani for tunneling on my meaningless hello post: null We can find out a lot more about him when there are some concrete bits mid-day besides his interactions with sinani. Looking at it again, there's a kind of nugget in the middle there with the interaction between him and Palmar. (BTW I've never played with a D1-talkative Palmar before, this is kind of surreal.) He flat out gave Palmar a town read instead of proposing a better lynch target. Okay, that's weird. Scum points and town points, I want to see more. More red than green. Are you picking up what I'm putting down? But the main reason he could be scum is because as much as he pretends to think so much about my alignment. ( and says that it's not true that he just filtered after seeing Palmar attack me). He didn't read the thread as the events went on nor did he even bother to filter Palmar to question his alignment. (if he did he would see why I commented on Palmar instead of giving a lynch target) Palmar asked me to comment on him so I did, there's nothing "wierd" about it. I think for a player who "spends so much time thinking about one sentence from rayne" he would read the thread or at the very least filter Palmar to try to figure out his alignment. I think he saw Palmar's case and decided hmm.... This looks like a good person to throw some suspicion on. | ||
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Grackaroni
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On March 27 2013 04:24 ObviousOne wrote: Who else is scum besides me, Grack? Am I the only scum in this game? I'm happy to be wrong about you if you would just do something more useful than tunnel me all day. You're just staying the course though and it bothers me. lol how many people have given multiple scum reads so far. I find it ridiculous that I'm still some major suspect because I made 3 posts without stances at the start of the game. I think Nisani and Sinani are both people to look into and both could be scum as well. Nisani wrote a case about acro and seemed to ignore all of the other things that Acro has done in the thread and just said he's too focused on you not reading your role pm. Once again I don't like Sinani's original contribution and he hasn't added anything since then. | ||
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Grackaroni
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One thing that definitely needs correcting is my read on Palmar. I used to believe that Palmar was much lazier as scum and berated him pretty hard in a previous game for it. (and I was actually lucky and was correct that he was scum and he was being lazy) In reality Palmar is frequently lazy as town and has played several active scum games. My logic was flawed from the start when I thought that him being active in this game made him more likely to be town, it really doesn't. from an admittedly biased point of view right now, I think that Palmar has been fostering a bad town atmosphere and seems more focused. on getting people to sheep him than finding out whether his read is correct. TLDR: I want to correct my previously flawed reasoning. I will take a less neutral stance on him (and others) by the end of the night. On March 27 2013 04:24 ObviousOne wrote: Who else is scum besides me, Grack? Am I the only scum in this game? I'm happy to be wrong about you if you would just do something more useful than tunnel me all day. You're just staying the course though and it bothers me. I also don't like this reaction to my post. I literally made ONE post on him and all of a sudden I'm tunneling him all day? For somebody who is adamant that I am scum he either hasn't examined/analyzed my filter very closely or he is maliciously misconstruing my posts. | ||
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