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1Focus
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States409 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-10 22:49:04
March 10 2013 18:23 GMT
#1
Hi, guys!

My name is Fred, I am 22 and a normal college kid like many of you are. My life has seriously changed for the better in the past week. I just started with this business that has seriously changed my outlook on life.

Ok. Time for some info about me. I am a college kid that goes to school for global financing and business management. I switched my major three times and I started to realize that I did not really like anything I was doing. It felt like I was settling in life and being contempt with my future. I'm pretty sure many of the young adults my age feel this way to. Many people work a J.O.B (Just over broke) but I see so many of them and they are not happy. I was so captivated by the idea of trading my 'time' for money but I just realized that it is probably the worst way to make money in this day and age. So I decided that within three or four months, I will change the way I make my money. I decided that I will be a better person and train myself to become more knowledgeable, healthy, and driven. All these ideas came to me after joining this business.

So, how I got started was actually quite interesting. I work in a restaurant and many co-workers are my age or around it and they introduced it to me about two months ago. I went to see what it was the first time and I did not think it was that great. I was 'contempt and satisfied' with what I had. I said I would think about it and never got back at them. Two months later, I talked to a friend doing it and he got me to go to another meeting and my whole perception changed. I loved the product and idea from that moment on.

There was something about being your OWN boss that captivated me. Not having to listen to people tell me when to take a piss, when to take a break, when to eat lunch, and when to take my family out on vacation. That to me just seems off. We were all created equal, what gives him or her the right to decide what I should or should not do with my life. This is a business that will give you the same amount back that you put into it. It is not 'HARD WORK', you just have to 'WORK HARD'. It is something I can do that will make me healthier, meet more people, and help others, while making money along the way.

This is a business where the only way you will fail is if you sit down and do nothing.

So for anything in life you have to have a reason 'WHY' your doing anything. It is your 'WHY' factor. My reasons for doing this are my parents. They worked so hard when they were younger and never got to enjoy life because they had a son early. I am the youngest out of three children and I see my parents working everyday to provide for us and to me it, it did not seem fair. I felt that they deserved better and I hope that with this business, I can put them into retirement and make them quit their jobs so they can just enjoy the rest of their lives, because they have definitely earned it. That is my 'WHY' factor.

This business has helped me out immensely and has definitely changed me. I figured I would tell you guys about my story and hope you took something away from it.

If you have any questions just ask. Thanks for reading and I hope I can keep writing blogs to show you my progression with this business on a continual basis and hopefully show you all the people I have helped along the way. Thanks! Enjoy and Live your life!

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Added Edit:

Added: "I never said being rich was the only thing to be associated with success, as I said in my opening. What I am taking from this business is health, helping my friends and other people, and an abundant amount of networks at my disposal. It is not what you do or say but who you know that will help you succeed in life."

I walked out for an hour and came back seeing many peoples response to my blog. First thing I am going to say is that, I am not going to be using this as a place to find people but to show people what is happening in my life in various steps while I go through this process.

I am a full time student, work full time at a restaurant, and work on this full time.

Some may call me a naive boy, but I sure am not ignorant. I looked into this company for a while and if it will benefit me, I will still probably go to school just because I love learning. I said I found my majors boring not because it was difficult but because it was boring. I have kept myself with a 4.0 GPA and will probably continue to do so but what is the use if you do not enjoy it. Why am I going to school if 53.6% of the colleges graduates with four year degrees right now are unemployed or underemployed. It seems dumb to go to school for that long and acquire 100,000$ worth in dept to end up working for minimum wage. No one in their right mind wants to be told they are worth only eight dollars an hour. I know my time is worth more than that, to me its worth a lot more because its something we can never get back.

I did say I signed up instantly after that second meeting but that was after two months of seeing close friends progression in the company plus all the research I have done online. I signed up after two months because of the peoples passion was the same if not HIGHER than it was back then. I was excited and confident in the way this company was going.

The business that I took part in is V.E.M.M.A

Few Hard Facts:
1. VEMMA is a company that has been around for eight years.
2. Verve is a product that has been around for four years.
3. It is an extremely healthy energy drink.
4. I signed up after looking up many articles from credible sources.
5. Coca Cola tried to buy this for 2.8 Billion Dollars
6. It was on Doctor Oz two times the past eleven months saying two of these and almonds are the best thing you can put in your body in one day.
7. It is the official drinks of the Charlotte Bobcats and Phoenix Suns.
8. My friends(people I see everyday) make one grand a week the past two months. He has been doing this for three months.
9. It was rated an A in the Better Business Bureau.

First things first, people have called it a 'pyramid scheme', well guys pyramid schemes are illegal. People who have put their reputations on the line here would not do that if it was an illegal company. Dr. Oz who boss is Oprah puts his faith in this brand. Would he do that and lose all his credibility if it was a scam. Michael Jordan partially owns the Bobcats and has a part say in V.e.m.m.a. would he be part of a pyramid scheme and ruin his reputation. Can you also explain to me what a pyramid scheme is? To me if you explain it, it would explain mostly any job out there right now.

----------------------/ \---------------------
---------------------/-- \----------------------
-------------------/CEO\-------------------- -Makes the most
-----------------/-Execs-\------------------ -Makes more than GMs
---------------/----GM------\---------------- -Usually one but makes more then previous
-------------/----AGMs------\-------------- - usually only one but make more
-----------/----Managers-----\------------- - less of them but make alittle bit more
---------/-----Employees------\----------- - tons of them but make the least amount of money

Last but not least, when is living life safe and contempt actually 'LIVING LIFE', our lives are drawn with our past experiences. We only have one life(at least that is what I was taught), why do we not live life with some risk because in the end is that not a big reason for some peoples success. Look at some of these successful people we have around the world today, they did not let anyone bring them down but pursued a risk and it payed off. If you let every single comment bring you down and deter you, nothing in your life would be complete.
Twitter: iF0CUS
micronesia
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States24805 Posts
March 10 2013 18:37 GMT
#2
Um, can you describe what 'this business' is?
ModeratorThere are animal crackers for people and there are people crackers for animals.
EtherealDeath
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States8366 Posts
March 10 2013 18:39 GMT
#3
On March 11 2013 03:37 micronesia wrote:
Um, can you describe what 'this business' is?

vemma
Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
March 10 2013 18:39 GMT
#4
On March 11 2013 03:37 micronesia wrote:
Um, can you describe what 'this business' is?


This is what I'm wondering as well. Care to elaborate?
AdministratorBreak the chains
Shelke14
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada6655 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-10 18:40:33
March 10 2013 18:40 GMT
#5
Am I missing something here, so the business is just basically asking yourself before you enter into a task "Why?". The idea that you need to rationalize to yourself the need to do this task because it will make you a better person overall and if it doesn't you don't do it? Correct me if I am wrong but is there actually any business behind it or are you still working in that restaurant?

EDIT: Lol, guess I wasn't the only person
TerranosaurusWrecks
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Canada187 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-10 18:52:41
March 10 2013 18:49 GMT
#6
I didn't even bother to read this but vemma is just another one of those bullshit pyramid schemes where people buy kits or whatever... It's such a terrible idea, and honestly there's got to be a billion businesses like this concerning energy drinks or whatever, so freaking risky and not worth it.

EDIT: i really hope you aren't going to be using this blog post to find partners because honestly that stuff is highly frowned upon on teamliquid.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯ "Like you can train a n00b, but they will just be a trained n00b."
AnDa1120
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada472 Posts
March 10 2013 19:04 GMT
#7
fred focus rivera fighting!!!
http://www.twitch.tv/area51_anda | @ahandyhoang | areaAnDa.751 | Terran | NaDa ♥
BreAKerTV
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
Taiwan1658 Posts
March 10 2013 19:27 GMT
#8
On March 11 2013 03:49 TerranosaurusWrecks wrote:
I didn't even bother to read this but vemma is just another one of those bullshit pyramid schemes where people buy kits or whatever... It's such a terrible idea, and honestly there's got to be a billion businesses like this concerning energy drinks or whatever, so freaking risky and not worth it.

EDIT: i really hope you aren't going to be using this blog post to find partners because honestly that stuff is highly frowned upon on teamliquid.

Exactly, I had a friend who was trying to dick me over in to doing the same thing with another business that revolved around vacations as a pyramid scheme.

And another friend who tried to dick me over using diet products or workout supplements or some bull shit like that.
Retired caster / streamer "BingeHD". Digital Nomad.
AgentW
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United States7725 Posts
March 10 2013 19:35 GMT
#9
On March 11 2013 03:49 TerranosaurusWrecks wrote:
I didn't even bother to read this but vemma is just another one of those bullshit pyramid schemes where people buy kits or whatever... It's such a terrible idea, and honestly there's got to be a billion businesses like this concerning energy drinks or whatever, so freaking risky and not worth it.

EDIT: i really hope you aren't going to be using this blog post to find partners because honestly that stuff is highly frowned upon on teamliquid.

Are pyramid schemes like the people who sell knives and exhaust all of your contacts once you sign on and then move on when your output stops?
Who's the bigger scrub, the scrub, or the scrub who loses to him?
SamsungStar
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
United States912 Posts
March 10 2013 19:41 GMT
#10
Good on you for having entrepreneurial spirit. This is exactly how more people in our generation should think. Don't be a slave for someone else. Forge your own path. I too am interested to know what your business idea is but it really isn't a big deal. The important thing is to have the right attitude. I know plenty of rich people whose first twenty ideas failed. As long as the 21st pays off
Elegance
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Canada917 Posts
March 10 2013 20:04 GMT
#11
definitely sounds pyramid to me. Unless of course you care to provide the details
Power of Ze
Tobberoth
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden6375 Posts
March 10 2013 20:08 GMT
#12
Classic pyramid scheme, calling it a "business" and going to "meetings". Actually had one of those people try to chat up my GF into working for them, trying to find contacts abroad etc, so fucking shady. The person was actively trying to not bring up the name, but my GF kept pushing it and had heard of the company before, apparently they are pretty big in korea and it's a definite pyramid scheme. Nasty.
ImbaTosS
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United Kingdom1744 Posts
March 10 2013 20:09 GMT
#13
This sounds like the most ridiculous, transparent pyramid scheme I've ever heard.

"This is a business where the only way you will fail is if you sit down and do nothing."

The single most absurd quote in the whole thing. Save yourself...
EleGant[AoV]
BirdKiller
Profile Joined January 2011
United States428 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-10 20:24:38
March 10 2013 20:17 GMT
#14
Two things you'll learn in business and anything that involves money:

1. If an investment or proposition, in you case, being part of the business, is either promising or returning you an impressive results, then you need to find out exactly why and how, and whether or not it's sustainable and/or legal.

2. Owning a true business is indeed hard work that requires you to work hard. Regardless of what it is. If this doesn't seem so as time goes on, then I would examine closely, and I mean VERY closely of how the business and any other businesses that you associate operate. The fact that you say:

We were all created equal, what gives him or her the right to decide what I should or should not do with my life


tells me that you've not been an owner for too long, have very few (new) employees, or running a one man shop.

Right now, all I've read is a naive college student who doesn't know how to run a business that just got fooled into running a suspicious or shady business model.

Reflect at what you are right now, a college student, working part time in a restraunt, with no business experience that's having difficulty to be motivated academically. Then suddenly you have an extremely rosy outlook on life because few people AROUND YOUR AGE and working in a restraunt, introduced you to a business proposition that initially seems to give you a good return. You know how this usually ends right? Part of it is because the victim didn't bother to research or ask the hard questions.

If in the end you crash and burn, then you only have your own ignorance and inexperience to blame. If however in the end you've actually ended up with a genuine sustainable and legal business proposition, then consider yourself extremely fortunate.

Besides my advice for you to examine what you're getting into closely, I would save and write every business conversation, transaction, agreements, understandings/intent, and etc., on paper and e-mail.
Marti
Profile Joined August 2011
552 Posts
March 10 2013 20:42 GMT
#15
All i could think about upon reading the title was " live to win, till you die, till the light dies in your eyes ... "
#adun giveafuck - - - "Did this guy just randomly finger me?" - Sayle
TerranosaurusWrecks
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Canada187 Posts
March 10 2013 20:47 GMT
#16
On March 11 2013 04:35 AgentW wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
On March 11 2013 03:49 TerranosaurusWrecks wrote:
I didn't even bother to read this but vemma is just another one of those bullshit pyramid schemes where people buy kits or whatever... It's such a terrible idea, and honestly there's got to be a billion businesses like this concerning energy drinks or whatever, so freaking risky and not worth it.

EDIT: i really hope you aren't going to be using this blog post to find partners because honestly that stuff is highly frowned upon on teamliquid.


Are pyramid schemes like the people who sell knives and exhaust all of your contacts once you sign on and then move on when your output stops?


oh lawl, i see your point.



for anyone who's interested.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯ "Like you can train a n00b, but they will just be a trained n00b."
Meadowlark
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
United States349 Posts
March 10 2013 21:06 GMT
#17
I am overwhelmed by the odor of fish.
''Three bottles of Monster in a day; I'm pumped as fuck." -Stephano
Ettick
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States2434 Posts
March 10 2013 21:12 GMT
#18
The number of people that associate being successful with having money is atrocious.
Salazarz
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Korea (South)2591 Posts
March 10 2013 21:19 GMT
#19
On March 11 2013 06:12 Ettick wrote:
The number of people that associate being successful with having money is atrocious.


This, lol
1Focus
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States409 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-10 21:44:17
March 10 2013 21:29 GMT
#20
JUST READ FIRST POST BECAUSE I PUT IT THERE AS AN ADDITION TO ANSWER SOME QUESTIONS

Added: "I never said being rich was the only thing to be associated with success, as I said in my opening. What I am taking from this business is health, helping my friends and other people, and an abundant amount of networks at my disposal. It is not what you do or say but who you know that will help you succeed in life."

I walked out for an our and came back seeing many peoples response to my blog. First thing I am going to say is that, I am not going to be using this as a place to find people but to show people what is happening in my life in various steps while I go through this process. Obviously people have the right to be skeptic when I have not given an details of what I am doing.

I am a full time student, work full time at a restaurant, and work on this full time.

Some may call me a naive boy, but I sure am not ignorant. I looked into this company for a while and if it will benefit me, I will still probably go to school just because I love learning. I said I found my majors boring not because it was difficult but because it was boring. I have kept myself with a 4.0 GPA and will probably continue to do so but what is the use if you do not enjoy it. Why am I going to school if 53.6% of the colleges graduates with four year degrees right now are unemployed or underemployed. It seems dumb to go to school for that long and acquire 100,000$ worth in dept to end up working for minimum wage. No one in their right mind wants to be told they are worth only eight dollars an hour. I know my time is worth more than that, to me its worth a lot more because its something we can never get back.

I did say I signed up instantly after that second meeting but that was after two months of seeing close friends progression in the company plus all the research I have done online. I signed up after two months because of the peoples passion was the same if not HIGHER than it was back then. I was excited and confident in the way this company was going.

The business that I took part in is V.E.M.M.A

Few Hard Facts:
1. VEMMA is a company that has been around for eight years.
2. Verve is a product that has been around for four years.
3. It is an extremely healthy energy drink.
4. I signed up after looking up many articles from credible sources.
5. Coca Cola tried to buy this for 2.8 Billion Dollars
6. It was on Doctor Oz two times the past eleven months saying two of these and almonds are the best thing you can put in your body in one day.
7. It is the official drinks of the Charlotte Bobcats and Phoenix Suns.
8. My friends(people I see everyday) make one grand a week the past two months. He has been doing this for three months.
9. It was rated an A in the Better Business Bureau.

First things first, people have called it a 'pyramid scheme', well guys pyramid schemes are illegal. People who have put their reputations on the line here would not do that if it was an illegal company. Dr. Oz who boss is Oprah puts his faith in this brand. Would he do that and lose all his credibility if it was a scam. Michael Jordan partially owns the Bobcats and has a part say in V.e.m.m.a. would he be part of a pyramid scheme and ruin his reputation. Can you also explain to me what a pyramid scheme is? To me if you explain it, it would explain mostly any job out there right now.

[CEO] -Makes the most
[ Execs ] -Makes more than GMs
[ GM ] -Usually one but makes more then previous
[ AGMs ] - usually only one but make more
[ Managers ] - less of them but make alittle bit more
You have your [ Employess ] - tons of them but make the least amount of money

Last but not least, when is living life safe and contempt actually 'LIVING LIFE', our lives are drawn with our past experiences. We only have one life(at least that is what I was taught), why do we not live life with some risk because in the end is that not a big reason for some peoples success. Look at some of these successful people we have around the world today, they did not let anyone bring them down but pursued a risk and it payed off. If you let every single comment bring you down and deter you, nothing in your life would be complete.
Twitter: iF0CUS
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