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The damn company disconnected our service instead of the neighbors who cancelled. T_T Catching up now. | ||
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First of all, his setup speculation posts happened so early that there was little else to discuss. If he made those posts 5 pages later, I'd agree that they're scummy, but they happened within a page of the game starting. Secondly, his threat to lynch Coag is a pro-town move, and calling him scummy for it is stupid. If a player has an anti-town style (as it sounds like coag does) you need to pressure them, and sometimes even lynch them so they change that style. Demanding that others treat him as town, like BH is doing, only serves to create a more anti-town atmosphere and makes it easier for non-town to win. (If you want an example just look at how grush effected LX and was a large part of why I was able to win that game without ever really feeling threated.) It seems to me that BH values the success rate of lynches he leads more than winning, and if you are on my team this game, BH, I'd appriciate it if you boosted your ego through winning instead of making easy meta calls. Since I've yet to make myself heard, I think now's as good a time as any to say gerpit and zare have grabbed my attention as lynch candidates. I can expand on those if anyone wants, but I feel like I don't have that much original to say. VE's thing almost has to be part of his role since he keeps insisting on the bold ## thing. The question is what is his alignment?/who does it benefit? I'd advise caution to anyone considering "joining". | ||
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On March 17 2013 14:14 VisceraEyes wrote: It has nothing to do with my role and everything to do with finding and destroying the scum.  So you wouldn't mind if people apply without the bold ## command then? | ||
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On March 17 2013 14:19 Wade Fell wrote: We're in a normal game, it's not like the ## command does anything I speculate the opposite. | ||
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On March 17 2013 14:20 Wade Fell wrote: Gee I'm sorry how many scum did I lynch during the first 2 days of the last game Gee I'm sorry that I easily won because only 2 people in the town knew how to try. | ||
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My point is that if you don't punish bad town, town still loses because eventually all the good town are dead. You still lost that game. You didn't lose any less just because you were the most talented player on the losing team. If you're going to vote me just for thinking that bad town causes town to lose, your vote won't me moving any time soon. | ||
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On March 17 2013 14:29 Wade Fell wrote: So far you've talked about a number of topics, including whether attacking co-ag creates the right kind of "atmosphere", last game, VE's hilarious attempts to organize town, and finally a tiny little sentence about your scumreads. No votes, no cases, not even a rehashing of what convinced you or an attempt to convince others! Nothing. You are far more interested in arguing about whether I'm creating a good atmosphere than actually creating one by pressuring scum or helping your wagon. You dont' want to lynch geript and zare. you just want to say you want to lynch them. scum. I haven't voted or made a case yet because, having just finished reading the thread for the first time, I haven't come to a very strong stance yet. Imagine that. I understand that you're mad a newbie beat you last game. You can label lucky if outplayed makes you feel bad, but don't let it bias you in this game, please. | ||
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geript: The RNG stuff doesn't seem very indicative to me, but the tarot card speculation rubbed me the wrong way. It seems like he's posting just to post. I really don't think anyone could think that speculating about similarities to tarot cards could get us anything, so it stuck out to me as scummy. zare: Zare's post here basically just seems like a summary. It struck me as an attempt to just blend into the crowd. He doesn't add anything to the discussion really, but takes 3 paragraphs to do it. Very much a feigning contribution kind of post. If I had to pick right this second I'd vote to lynch zare. | ||
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On March 17 2013 14:42 Wade Fell wrote: Testsubject is basically just making half-assed attacks on the D1 lynchbait kk Its almost like I already told you I don't have a much original to say....... | ||
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On March 17 2013 14:42 VisceraEyes wrote: How about you give me your thoughts on the overwhelming vote leader right now, GoodKarma? Thank you for providing your lynch preferences, but those points seem a little weak and the case on GK grows stronger with every post he makes. I'd like your thoughts on why the majority of voters are wrong and we should vote for one of your guys. Honestly, I totally null on him right now, not because of anything he's posted but because I don't really remember any of his posts and didn't take any notes on him. I guess I'll take this opportunity to look closer and get back to you. | ||
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On March 17 2013 14:46 TestSubject893 wrote: Honestly, I totally null on him right now, not because of anything he's posted but because I don't really remember any of his posts and didn't take any notes on him. I guess I'll take this opportunity to look closer and get back to you. Ok, so I was looking through his posts, feeling pretty good about him, saying to myself "I could see him being town. I'm sceptical of all this SAST stuff too.", but then BAM. On March 17 2013 14:09 goodkarma wrote: I would say that my stance on VE has been that he was being silly. That coag attempted to go into the group though convinced me that I needed to be sure it didn't gain momentum as it was not a very pro-town plan. I'm not against "town circles," however, if they're done right. This doesn't make sense as town to me. Even if he thinks its dumb "being sure it doesn't get momentum" is a waste of time for anyone but scum. | ||
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On March 17 2013 14:53 GreYMisT wrote: TestSubject really hasn't said much of anything (hypocritical from me right?). The main thing that stands out to me about him is that a significant exchange between him and Wade Fell took place regarding punishing bad town play. TestSubject supports this argument with his main entrance post, calling for pressure against Coag. However, He doesnt attempt to pressure him at all, and really fails to significantly mention him. I can see where he is coming from with his read on zare, but overally Test doesnt seem like the best lynch candidate to me at the moment. Pressuring Coag is moot as long as BH is willing to stick his neck out for him, and will be even less effective now that we've vocallized that we're not all that serious about following through with a lynch on him. I don't have as many opinions as others because I'm 16 hours behind everyone else on this game due to my internet being out.... On March 17 2013 14:57 Wade Fell wrote: tl;dr: I'm right and you're all wrong, I'm just not sure how yet. I will find a way How does this make sense as town? | ||
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On March 17 2013 15:14 Wade Fell wrote: Yeah okay his point is bad, and even pushing it wasn't helping any conceivable town agenda, even assuming he thought it was true :| Next time someone asks me what I think about someone I'll just ignore them then. | ||
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GreYMisT seems to be doing the martyr thing we saw vivax and prome do in LX. Its a scummy play and I think its our greatest evidence against anyone right now, so I'll be voting for him. ##Vote: GreYMisT I'm not sure why DP was getting so much heat earlier, I was happy with his explanation and liked his case against VE. VE made himself look pretty bad and has moved himself to a solid scumread in my book with his comments about town not being able to vote to influence behavior. I refuse to believe he has such a fundamental misunderstanding of the game that he believes that to be true. I've been putting some thought into BH too and he's definitely someone I'm leaning more and more scum on. He seems to be of the mentality that he's made up his mind on who is scum (apparently me included, for daring to disagree with the mighty BH) and he'll come up with reasons for it later. It made sense last game when he was a cop, but even if he is one this game he can't have checked yet. It adds up to scummy play in my eyes. Geript and zare have not done themselves any favors either. They still look bad and worse. | ||
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So like 30 bajillion people claimed. WoS did so in just about the scummiest way possible and if he is town needs to think a little bit before acting that way next time. It seems to me we have no choice but to believe him for now, but if a scum were going to fake claim to save themselves WoS's claim is about as good as it gets for scum. VE was on the scum list for me before any of this stuff went down, but something about his interactions with "The Mirror" just doesn't add up. I think the most likely scenario if that he is some form of anti-town and we've caught him in a lie. No matter what's actually going on, I don't think we have much choice but to kill him today. ##Vote: VisceraEyes I find the fact that my inactivity caused BH to be less suspicious of me a huge scum tell for him. All game long I was in his top 2 for scum and then all of the sudden the time comes that he has to justify his reasoning and I'm no longer there. Its clear that he chose his targets before he came up with his reasoning and this makes no sense as town. BH is scum. Town BH is too talented to peg someone as scum for disagreeing with them on a single point during day 1. I'm sure BH will rebut this point by pointing out how he's listed me since then and tell us all about how my inactivity is scummy, but none of those are excuses for having me in his top 2 scum all of D1 without being able to back it up. If he were a sincere town player he'd have been able to make a case on me to back those feelings up from D1 alone, but he couldn't even muster a paragraph. | ||
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On March 21 2013 08:04 Wade Fell wrote: I made like 900 cases against you D1, testsubject, and shut you down at every point. The fact of the matter is I can't slap down your crap if you're not posting. I disagree. I'm not going to get into another fight with you over this. You've made it clear you can't have discussions with newer players without spamming. | ||
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