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I have read the rules.
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On February 20 2013 08:44 Toadesstern wrote:
so you're the milkman?
I am The Milkman.
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On February 20 2013 09:12 marvellosity wrote:
can we have a pre dayvig of the Milkman plz to prove it's not me :<
I am the Milkman.
My milk is delicious.
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I am the Milkman.
I can't wait to prepare some delicious milk for you.
My milk is delicious.
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On February 21 2013 09:02 jcarlsoniv wrote:Show nested quote +On February 21 2013 08:57 Promethelax wrote:On February 21 2013 08:56 jcarlsoniv wrote:On February 21 2013 06:51 Promethelax wrote:On February 21 2013 06:44 Vivax wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On February 21 2013 02:09 Oatsmaster wrote:Show nested quote +On February 21 2013 02:06 Oatsmaster wrote:On February 21 2013 02:02 VayeshMoru wrote:
I think I have an idea of what I'm doing. Thanks for the advisement though. Ok then, I hope you read the OP :D Have fun. Actually, EVERYBODY SHOULD READ THE OP. + Show Spoiler +No one reads the OP  In LIX I sent some dude the night actions who wasn't even co-hosting despite being in the OP. He found it quite funny. That was my favourite part of that whole game. When you said you had sent jcarlsoniv a pm I knew things were going to be hilarious the whole game long. Lol I was incredibly confused haha, is that what brought you back to mafia? That and my casting partner (waveofshadow) starting to play. He asked me to watch over him in his first newbie game, and I jumped into themed. I have a looooot of cobwebs to dust off
Shh.. Don't talk about it. They might come. They might come into your mind! They want to make you believe you are crazy...
I am the Milkman.
My milk is delicious.
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I would like Vivax to stop spamming. Back to reading.
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Stop asking for day kills and trying to get the identities of smurfs, useless fluff and it only makes the thread big. I am sorry for not posting this in one post but I am getting really dismayed by the one liner festive over here. Effort people, were on like page thirty and we are not even half through the day. I understand Promethelax's plan, it fizzled but what are we going to do. I understand some smurfs suspicion of him planning a getaway with a rng argument. People are quite upfront about their opinions, that is one good thing... Besides all that negativity flowing through them...
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My initial read on Promethelax was such a disaster, I support his lynch wholeheartedly. His play does not sum up as a town one in my book. He should push analysis, help with shooting down bad plans, actually scum hunt and so on. What is his reaction to pressure? No reaction. He just seems to start posting one liners and filler. I understand Dr's reluctance to be elected mayor, he just wants to play for a little while for once. Viscera is playing cool too. Milksuckler got a little townier than at the start, he seemed cold. Now he seems to be in the mafia trance! Vivax is in my opinion playing terribly, trying to do meaningless stuff like smurf identities, spamming and overall fluff. Toad strikes me as suspicious because of his position and calling for day vig. He does not seem right based on meta - he is not the guy to be "somewhere" but the guy to be at the top of town's structure. Leading, working hard and scumhunting.
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I have no idea how jorge supposed to know anything about your alignment with the setup we have. How absurd.
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On February 26 2013 23:09 Toadesstern wrote:Show nested quote +On February 26 2013 22:33 The Milkman wrote:
My initial read on Promethelax was such a disaster, I support his lynch wholeheartedly. His play does not sum up as a town one in my book. He should push analysis, help with shooting down bad plans, actually scum hunt and so on. What is his reaction to pressure? No reaction. He just seems to start posting one liners and filler. I understand Dr's reluctance to be elected mayor, he just wants to play for a little while for once. Viscera is playing cool too. Milksuckler got a little townier than at the start, he seemed cold. Now he seems to be in the mafia trance! Vivax is in my opinion playing terribly, trying to do meaningless stuff like smurf identities, spamming and overall fluff. Toad strikes me as suspicious because of his position and calling for day vig. He does not seem right based on meta - he is not the guy to be "somewhere" but the guy to be at the top of town's structure. Leading, working hard and scumhunting. wat? Are you kidding me? I did more than anyone in this game so far. The game started 01 am my time. That's really late and still everyone's on prom because of the 3 posts I DID about him and laya / VE and later on everyone else agreeing with what I said / repeating what I said about prom in everyone's one words. What do you expect me to do on top of what I already did this game? Especially considering that it was 1am at the time the game started and I went to bed around 3am (stayed awake longer because I felt I could get something going on prom and I was right lol). I'd punch you in the face for that statement of your. And I'm not talking about mafia "punch in you the face" à la lynching you. Take a look what I posted and consider that the time you are telling me I should have been more active, being "on top of town" were between 3am and 12am...
Come on man, stop with that megalomania. I understand that you have high mafia-esteem, but I just noticed that you are not the star of the show. That's all. I saw your games where you were one of the most sparkling ones.
On February 26 2013 22:53 MilkSuckler wrote:Show nested quote +On February 26 2013 22:33 The Milkman wrote:
My initial read on Promethelax was such a disaster, I support his lynch wholeheartedly. Can I have a read on Wade Fell /BH pl0x?
I had a discreet read on his identity and I failed, but that's just an additional info basically more making the game more "human".
He's BH - his style fits. He is aggressive as hell, a star of the show,. I have no idea but komodo dragon sounds like Kavdragon. Anyone? Please? Komodo dragon Kavdragon? No? Fine.
Anyway, back on track. He shoots down Prome's rng plan. Okay, that's fine. RNG plans always get shot down. Shoots down randombum's idea too (yeah it was crap, sorry man) Supports DrH/VE as mayors, does not agree with "read only vets" agenda. When Aqua tries to understand his point, he spends the time to explain to him the best he can. He's putting effort and thought into his play. He cares for discourse. He is one of the people responsible for the good part of the Day so far. Real good work there.
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On February 26 2013 23:21 The Macho Man wrote:Show nested quote +On February 26 2013 10:35 Vivax wrote:On February 26 2013 10:31 The Macho Man wrote:
what does everyone think of vivax simply trying to figure out smurfs not alignments is the greatest of all time on to something or not? What does everyone think about NachoMan picking me out of everyone else doing the same? Let's see, Toad made a guess, Wade is making guesses, Vivax made guesses. Who might be easier to lynch? Oh it's Vivax, everybody loves lynching Vivax. This guy tries insinuate that i am scum with this post and does not follow it up at all. HE comes off as scum that needs a crying towel. Show nested quote +On February 26 2013 22:00 Promethelax wrote:Hey all, catching a jetplane outta here in a few minutes but I'm here right now. I'm still uncomfortable with Wade though knowing it is bh makes him less likely to be scum in my eyes. His weird d1 behaviour is weird in a blazing way, which I usually find scummy. Things I still find scummy in him: his omgus attack already mentioned, attacking me for having a changed read after I reread the thread (I get that everyone wants to get on my wagon now, its the in thing to do but assuming you do lynch me when I flip look for shoddy reasoning like Wade's), his obsession with the vet/newbie dichotomy (he is focusing on it to the exclusion of actual scum hunting) Things I find townie: his confidence and casual tone ("for all you know I'm warbaby" and "so no real opinions then") conclusion: keep an eye on, not a good day one lynch JJ on the other hand is looking scummier (again this only works for me but once I flip go back and look at my reads k thx) I am under a lot of pressure now and most/all of the vets and smurfs (i.e. probable vets want to lynch me) and yet JJ comes in and says I am town for no reason. He has a reason. He just won't share it. It looks to me like a scummer trying to gain a little cred on a mislynch while also not actually derail the lynch. This is his whole interaction with me/comment on me before his sudden defense On February 26 2013 10:11 JungleJorge wrote:On February 26 2013 09:39 WaveofShadow wrote:On February 26 2013 09:37 MilkSuckler wrote:On February 26 2013 09:35 geript wrote:
As of yet, no. The question is why do you feel my newbie status is important? Actually its the opposite. You become non-existent. 'pretty much how I feel right now. See you D2 everybody! Promethelax, how do you feel about this post? conclusion: probably scum, would lynch. I'm heading out of town and will have limited internet access. I will post when I can. Good luck town! Prom is definitely not confirmed scum as the whole thread seems to think and the most concerning thing that he actually has done is this post here in saying that he isn't going to be active after all the pressure. This is the most tell sign that he is scum If he does not care about town and doesn't post then he should die. Vivax has actually done nothing this game and should die. If prom sticks around and contributes i say let him live vivax hasn't done anything. A vote for me is a vote to kill vivax the man who wants to appear active but in fact is doing nothing Vivax Macho madness is coming straight at you.
Okay. I agree with Promethelax not caring about looking town is bad. His "goodbye" post is the most direct way to politely say you just don't care. Although, I don't agree about letting him go and replacing him with Vivax. Vivax's been spammy and useless, while BEING in the thread. He put zero effort, that's true, but that happens - especially at the start of the game. Of course, we should try to spend our limited time (48 hours seems so long, but as others have observed, it seems to be quite short given the switches happening nowadays) as best as we can.
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On February 26 2013 23:25 The Macho Man wrote:Show nested quote +On February 26 2013 23:24 MilkSuckler wrote:On February 26 2013 23:21 The Macho Man wrote:
Prom is definitely not confirmed scum as the whole thread seems to think and the most concerning thing that he actually has done is this post here in saying that he isn't going to be active after all the pressure. This is the most tell sign that he is scum
If he does not care about town and doesn't post then he should die.
In fairness, Prome said pre-game he would be unavailable during this period of the cycle. So I dont treat the absence as scummy. You are the second person (after JungleJorge) to purport Prome innocent, with not backing. Considering he is under heavy scrutiny, I think it is the time to provide the evidence to support his innocence, instead of a soft-claim. I expect that you have voiced your opinion on this matter, you will have no qualms following through with the reasoning. Thank you. he has been one of the more active guys seems interested in the game and looks like he cared about the lynch. Those are in fact townie traits.
Those are in fact traits which are very weak to call someone town. Does that mean that not posting means someone is scum?
We all know how lurkers turn out.
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On February 26 2013 23:28 The Macho Man wrote:Show nested quote +On February 26 2013 23:27 The Milkman wrote:On February 26 2013 23:25 The Macho Man wrote:On February 26 2013 23:24 MilkSuckler wrote:On February 26 2013 23:21 The Macho Man wrote:
Prom is definitely not confirmed scum as the whole thread seems to think and the most concerning thing that he actually has done is this post here in saying that he isn't going to be active after all the pressure. This is the most tell sign that he is scum
If he does not care about town and doesn't post then he should die.
In fairness, Prome said pre-game he would be unavailable during this period of the cycle. So I dont treat the absence as scummy. You are the second person (after JungleJorge) to purport Prome innocent, with not backing. Considering he is under heavy scrutiny, I think it is the time to provide the evidence to support his innocence, instead of a soft-claim. I expect that you have voiced your opinion on this matter, you will have no qualms following through with the reasoning. Thank you. he has been one of the more active guys seems interested in the game and looks like he cared about the lynch. Those are in fact townie traits. Those are in fact traits which are very weak to call someone town. Does that mean that not posting means someone is scum? We all know how lurkers turn out. scum don't like the spotlight prom has been in the spotlight. That's mafia 101 come on.
That's Mafia Survival Guide for Dummies. I assume you know the distinction.
On February 26 2013 23:31 MilkSuckler wrote:Show nested quote +On February 26 2013 23:22 The Milkman wrote:On February 26 2013 22:53 MilkSuckler wrote:
Can I have a read on Wade Fell /BH pl0x? He shoots down Prome's rng plan. Okay, that's fine. RNG plans always get shot down. Shoots down randombum's idea too (yeah it was crap, sorry man) Supports DrH/VE as mayors, does not agree with "read only vets" agenda. When Aqua tries to understand his point, he spends the time to explain to him the best he can. He's putting effort and thought into his play. He cares for discourse. He is one of the people responsible for the good part of the Day so far. Real good work there. OK, I look at those points and think where are the specific town tells? Though Dr.H *will* disagree, a large component of Day1 is spent establishing innocence. All those stances listed above I believe are easy to follow through as either scum or town. Out of those points raised, the closest to being indicative of town (in my opinion) is the discourse with Aquanim. Also, if you notice, when Aquanim first raised a query on the case; his response was: here is the link to the case. It wasn't until Aquanim persisted that a more detailed response was granted. === So far I still think Wade Fell is suspicious; but, if all the vets think Wade is town, perhaps I am missing an important part of the equation. What do you make of what I wrote above? Do you see validity of paranoia?
Hey, first off all, don't care about what vets say and what they don't say. We need people going in different direction, poking and random things ALL at once. Of course, we could all just nod when someone brings something to the table but that would get us nowhere. You know, the biggest danger for democracy is when everyone thinks the same. There is no innovation. There is no discourse. There is nothing to stop the present train of thought and as we know humans are not exactly the most clever species in the Universe.
But I digress. I think putting effort into shooting down the plans is a decent town tell. When I roll Mafia I usually sit back and let chaos flow through people with all the different plans over the place. Since no one would tell them they suck or anything else, they would just repeat questions to others like they are in some crazed trance
"Hey what do you think about my plan?
Good right?
Hey guys my plan is great.
PAY ATTENTION TO MY PLAN
PLAN
PLAN
PLAN"
And things go into the bits with everyone trying to shove their plan into other people's faces. The support for DrH/VE is a good thing too - we need their play as role model for people who get a little lost.
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On February 26 2013 23:38 glurio wrote:Show nested quote +On February 26 2013 23:10 MilkSuckler wrote:Welcome Glurio. You can assume I am whoever you want me to be. (1) So what goods did "Waffels" bring to the table with prome, that wasnt on the table before? (2) On February 26 2013 23:03 glurio wrote:
geripts ...What do you make of OO? What is your read on OO? (3) Now that you have caught up.. who is your top scum read pl0x 1) He wanted to kill you. He put down the stupid RNG idea, also randombuns obviously flawed plan to elect the scummiest player. Some of his points on prome has been made before but DrH doesn't want to be mayor. Also he seems to be a reasonable player, with all that let's only hear vets opinions shenanigans. Thats why i vote for him. 2) Wanna hear geripts opinion first. 3) Prome
Why is geripts so detrimental to your opinion on OO?
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Oh, thing I remembered. Is ObviousOne that new? His reaction to Chezinu is quite weird. The last game Chezinu has played was some time ago, unless he used a smurf I don't know of.
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On February 27 2013 00:15 Toadesstern wrote:Show nested quote +On February 26 2013 23:22 The Milkman wrote:On February 26 2013 23:09 Toadesstern wrote:On February 26 2013 22:33 The Milkman wrote:
My initial read on Promethelax was such a disaster, I support his lynch wholeheartedly. His play does not sum up as a town one in my book. He should push analysis, help with shooting down bad plans, actually scum hunt and so on. What is his reaction to pressure? No reaction. He just seems to start posting one liners and filler. I understand Dr's reluctance to be elected mayor, he just wants to play for a little while for once. Viscera is playing cool too. Milksuckler got a little townier than at the start, he seemed cold. Now he seems to be in the mafia trance! Vivax is in my opinion playing terribly, trying to do meaningless stuff like smurf identities, spamming and overall fluff. Toad strikes me as suspicious because of his position and calling for day vig. He does not seem right based on meta - he is not the guy to be "somewhere" but the guy to be at the top of town's structure. Leading, working hard and scumhunting. wat? Are you kidding me? I did more than anyone in this game so far. The game started 01 am my time. That's really late and still everyone's on prom because of the 3 posts I DID about him and laya / VE and later on everyone else agreeing with what I said / repeating what I said about prom in everyone's one words. What do you expect me to do on top of what I already did this game? Especially considering that it was 1am at the time the game started and I went to bed around 3am (stayed awake longer because I felt I could get something going on prom and I was right lol). I'd punch you in the face for that statement of your. And I'm not talking about mafia "punch in you the face" à la lynching you. Take a look what I posted and consider that the time you are telling me I should have been more active, being "on top of town" were between 3am and 12am... Come on man, stop with that megalomania. I understand that you have high mafia-esteem, but I just noticed that you are not the star of the show. That's all. I saw your games where you were one of the most sparkling ones. [...] Isn't that kind of contradicting itself? You expect me to be the star of the show and tell me I should have been more active around 4 to 5 am my time..
Toad, you made enough posts but just did not get into the front row. I am not attacking you for not playing 24h, I am just saying that you DID post but your presence was not as strong as it usually is.
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On February 27 2013 00:01 glurio wrote:I vote for waffels since he clearly states he wants to lynch prom who i think is scum. He looks towniest to me from all the candidates so i vote for him. I wanted geript to state his opinion without being influenced from whatever i write but if you are so eager i'll write it. OOs filter consists mostly of one-liners. The worst was probably this post. Show nested quote +On February 26 2013 10:51 ObviousOne wrote:On February 26 2013 10:49 VayeshMoru wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On February 26 2013 10:46 ObviousOne wrote:Show nested quote +On February 26 2013 10:09 VayeshMoru wrote:
Vayesh finds all this talking hard on the head. He believes silencing Vivax would ease the suffering of all considerably. After that silence is attained the society of cult killers should move on to discussing real mayoral choices. Those who decide to blend in with shadow and hide their faces are no better than doomsday bringers. What has convinced VayeshMoru that Vivax should be the one to surrender to The Light? when one speaks, meaning should be revealed. Instead when Vivax speaks confusion is created. Men of order and truth have no reason to create chaos, to mute those of worth. One could say similar things about the ObviousOne. The ObviousOne has said a great many things to the detriment of the atmopshere, but the ObviousOne feels his time is best utilized in preparing today's records for tomorrow's filing. He actually acknowledges to just post chaos with detriment to the town atmosphere. Why would he do that? So he could post something actually useful tomorrow? I don't understand this logic. So far he's really useless, only thing he does is disrupting town atmosphere, which he even admits to. I thought you were useless at the beginning of the game, yes. Do i think you're scummier than prome right now? No. But as is already said i'll keep my eye on you.
As for ObviousOne, I am suspicious of him as well. He makes this shady post about geript:
+ Show Spoiler +On February 26 2013 09:40 ObviousOne wrote:Show nested quote +On February 26 2013 09:39 Vivax wrote:On February 26 2013 09:34 ObviousOne wrote:
Top scum read probably geript at the very moment. His candidacy for mayor seems like a disaster waiting to happen. Guaranteed mislynch from him as either alignment. And what exactly makes him scum? I'm living in the moment here. I don't make anything of the WF JJ shenanigans yet. Got asked a question, gave an answer. Ask me about geript again in 23 hours, okay? Promise?
He says geript is his top scum read but he has nothing to say about him? That's at least weird.
That's also REALLY fast to have a "top scum read" and not just A scum read. Like, I guess you can have your suspicions, but so much that you can call a read a top one?
He also wants to kill Macho Man for some reason and supports Vivax as mayor.
+ Show Spoiler +On February 26 2013 11:07 Aquanim wrote:Show nested quote +On February 26 2013 11:01 ObviousOne wrote:
Aqua didn't like that I gave a gut read based on a hypothetical scenario when I didn't have anything better in mind. He's going to hold it against me forever and ever. The end. Oh, and OO's martyring about it isn't changing my mind at all. Give it a day or so. On February 26 2013 11:09 ObviousOne wrote:
Martyring? LOL
That is a fairly inaccurate representation of what I'm doing here. You could have tunneled on me just as easily if I said "fucked if I know who is scum" and the only pressure I'm feeling right now is coming from my bowels care of this afternoon's tacos.
Basically Aquanim pressures him a little bit and he gets into this weird overly aggressive defence stance. Most of his posts could be considered trolling but they are quite disruptive, also notice that he does not like quoting the posts he is replying to >_>
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On February 27 2013 00:25 Toadesstern wrote:Show nested quote +On February 27 2013 00:17 The Milkman wrote:On February 27 2013 00:15 Toadesstern wrote:On February 26 2013 23:22 The Milkman wrote:On February 26 2013 23:09 Toadesstern wrote:On February 26 2013 22:33 The Milkman wrote:
My initial read on Promethelax was such a disaster, I support his lynch wholeheartedly. His play does not sum up as a town one in my book. He should push analysis, help with shooting down bad plans, actually scum hunt and so on. What is his reaction to pressure? No reaction. He just seems to start posting one liners and filler. I understand Dr's reluctance to be elected mayor, he just wants to play for a little while for once. Viscera is playing cool too. Milksuckler got a little townier than at the start, he seemed cold. Now he seems to be in the mafia trance! Vivax is in my opinion playing terribly, trying to do meaningless stuff like smurf identities, spamming and overall fluff. Toad strikes me as suspicious because of his position and calling for day vig. He does not seem right based on meta - he is not the guy to be "somewhere" but the guy to be at the top of town's structure. Leading, working hard and scumhunting. wat? Are you kidding me? I did more than anyone in this game so far. The game started 01 am my time. That's really late and still everyone's on prom because of the 3 posts I DID about him and laya / VE and later on everyone else agreeing with what I said / repeating what I said about prom in everyone's one words. What do you expect me to do on top of what I already did this game? Especially considering that it was 1am at the time the game started and I went to bed around 3am (stayed awake longer because I felt I could get something going on prom and I was right lol). I'd punch you in the face for that statement of your. And I'm not talking about mafia "punch in you the face" à la lynching you. Take a look what I posted and consider that the time you are telling me I should have been more active, being "on top of town" were between 3am and 12am... Come on man, stop with that megalomania. I understand that you have high mafia-esteem, but I just noticed that you are not the star of the show. That's all. I saw your games where you were one of the most sparkling ones. [...] Isn't that kind of contradicting itself? You expect me to be the star of the show and tell me I should have been more active around 4 to 5 am my time.. Toad, you made enough posts but just did not get into the front row. I am not attacking you for not playing 24h, I am just saying that you DID post but your presence was not as strong as it usually is. I said I'd be willing to bet VE's left ball on prom benig mafia and that we need to kill him. What exactly do you consider thread presence? Because it does sound like you don't consider me enough in people's faces from what I'm reading and quite frankly I don't think I can be more into peoples faces as I've been the first couple of hours this game. I'm just trying to understand what you're accusing me of... especially considering that I've got people in skype laughing about me because it's so obvious I'm town this game and I won't stand a chance next time I roll mafia if I keep on playing the way I am right now.
No discussing ongoing games? Whatever.
I am just saying that you got into my memory after reading the thread not as the one of the top contributors, but one of these guys who were around but did not make a "splash". Usually you leave a different feeling in my mind. I guess it's hard to explain. Anyway, that's just my musings.
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