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thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
February 18 2013 07:31 GMT
#30
/in

you no scare i no scare
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
February 18 2013 18:30 GMT
#31
come on guys this game should be full by now....

no scare!
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
February 20 2013 03:56 GMT
#63
On February 20 2013 12:50 HiroPro wrote:
I'm not going to start until at least Sunday. Too busy before then.


awwww.....

+ Show Spoiler +
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"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
February 24 2013 17:28 GMT
#97
ah... early start. lookin forward to this game

waits for hilarity to ensue
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
February 25 2013 00:53 GMT
#187
I don't think much policy related thought needs to go into dueling. The more arbitrary rules and policies we try to enforce, the more rules and policies scum have available to hide their actions behind. Let the game flow naturally as to counteract unnatural reads brought on by unnatural/arbitrary policies.


lol, clearly this town ain't big enough. that much is already apparent


"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
February 25 2013 01:06 GMT
#192
On February 25 2013 09:58 Acrofales wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 25 2013 09:53 thrawn2112 wrote:
I don't think much policy related thought needs to go into dueling. The more arbitrary rules and policies we try to enforce, the more rules and policies scum have available to hide their actions behind. Let the game flow naturally as to counteract unnatural reads brought on by unnatural/arbitrary policies.


lol, clearly this town ain't big enough. that much is already apparent



Those first posts are a bitch to write, aren't they? Way to say nothing!

What do you think of yamato and cora?


I'm not willing to commit to a read on cora yet. Nothing he's posted so far is all that alignment indicative, coming from him. As for yamato... maybe slighty town? I disagree with the logic behind nearly all of what he's said so far but he's acting in a townish manner.

Iamp could be scum. All he's done is drop off a town read and comment on how useless the thread is.
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
February 25 2013 01:07 GMT
#195
ah, well nvm about iamp then
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
February 25 2013 01:16 GMT
#211
nvm again, I still think iamp is scum
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
February 25 2013 02:16 GMT
#259
I don't like how quickly Oats backed down on his suspicions of marv. He goes from "kinda suspicious" to

On February 25 2013 10:58 Oatsmaster wrote:
I would not say you were very mannered in LIX.

And suddenly marv turns on the SERIOUS MODE.
Its not scummy, its just not alignment indicative as oh good plan = town.

so Oats, why so scared to attack marv?

"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
February 25 2013 02:21 GMT
#266
On February 25 2013 11:19 Oatsmaster wrote:
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Its not scummy, its just not alignment indicative as oh good plan = town.

In this statement, I meant that his policy post is not alignment indicative.
I still think he is scummy, but that post isnt a reason why.


I thought you said you didn't like his policy post.....

anyways....

so the reason you think he is scum comes down to rudeness? is that the full scope of your read on him?
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
February 25 2013 02:24 GMT
#270
On February 25 2013 11:21 Oatsmaster wrote:
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Unless you have some hitherto unheard of method of reading Chezinu on day 1 that you would like to share with us?

This isnt rude in the sense that you are shitting on him for being a bad player, its rude in the sense that you are poking fun at him for having bad reads.


I think you're reaching pretty far to make this point. I really don't see the distinction between rudeness and politeness you're suggesting exists, nor do I see how it relates to his alignment. I don't expect marv to adhere to being either rude/polite as town/scum.
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
February 25 2013 02:31 GMT
#280
On February 25 2013 11:28 cDgCorazon wrote:
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On February 25 2013 11:27 marvellosity wrote:
On February 25 2013 11:26 Oatsmaster wrote:
Anyway its pointless to pursue this further on this point, I dont think its a very strong scumtell for marv, but it isnt a towntell. Which makes me suspicous.

Also hapa get in the game, thrawn and marv just beat you to the exact same point.


This just makes no sense at all. NO SENSE MAKE IT NO YO.


Which part does not make sense?


On February 25 2013 11:26 Oatsmaster wrote:
Anyway its pointless to pursue this further on this point, I dont think its a very strong scumtell for marv, but it isnt a towntell. Which makes me suspicous.

Also hapa get in the game, thrawn and marv just beat you to the exact same point.


the part where "not a town tell" + "not a scum tell" = "makes me suspicious"

iamp. enlighten me about this long history we have that enables you to read me as town so easily in this specific game
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
February 25 2013 02:36 GMT
#284
On February 25 2013 11:34 cDgCorazon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 25 2013 11:31 thrawn2112 wrote:
On February 25 2013 11:28 cDgCorazon wrote:
On February 25 2013 11:27 marvellosity wrote:
On February 25 2013 11:26 Oatsmaster wrote:
Anyway its pointless to pursue this further on this point, I dont think its a very strong scumtell for marv, but it isnt a towntell. Which makes me suspicous.

Also hapa get in the game, thrawn and marv just beat you to the exact same point.


This just makes no sense at all. NO SENSE MAKE IT NO YO.


Which part does not make sense?


On February 25 2013 11:26 Oatsmaster wrote:
Anyway its pointless to pursue this further on this point, I dont think its a very strong scumtell for marv, but it isnt a towntell. Which makes me suspicous.

Also hapa get in the game, thrawn and marv just beat you to the exact same point.


the part where "not a town tell" + "not a scum tell" = "makes me suspicious"

iamp. enlighten me about this long history we have that enables you to read me as town so easily in this specific game


I know I should really shut up about Yamato but:

Why are you guys getting on each other for having such early town reads and not get on Yamato for having such early scum reads?


townies are suspicious and it's very easy for them to come up with a scum read. scum know who all town are so it's very easy for them to give a town read. giving nothing but town reads = lack of suspicion = scummy
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
February 25 2013 02:38 GMT
#286
Yeah I think iamp's scum. I can't feel the townie thought process behind his posts and his explanations are short and dismissive.
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
February 25 2013 10:24 GMT
#349
oats plz stop removing the names in your quotes. you've done it the whole game so far. thx
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
February 25 2013 10:30 GMT
#351
pretty please?
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
February 25 2013 10:41 GMT
#352
On February 25 2013 12:05 Acrofales wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 25 2013 11:38 thrawn2112 wrote:
Yeah I think iamp's scum. I can't feel the townie thought process behind his posts and his explanations are short and dismissive.

You seem to know him quite a bit better than I do. Please explain to me how this is different from when he's town?


His town is similar to this game (i'm not familiar with his scum meta) but in this game, he doesn't really seem to be trying to contribute. He seems uncooperative. Also, I don't like how liberally he's been throwing out town reads, especially when those town reads are backed up by extremely simplistic explanations.


"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
February 25 2013 10:50 GMT
#354
idk i didn't read themed.

*****

I just read the first few pages of his filter in themed and he is helpful in that game despite not always explaining reads. In this game, I get a "fuck off don't question me" vibe from his posts.
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
February 25 2013 10:57 GMT
#356
Oats what;s the status of your marv read? And do you have any alternate scumreads?
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
February 25 2013 11:18 GMT
#358
hmm I actually agree with you about acro

He's been playing something like a peaceable negotiator.. he's entered several conversations but he takes very neutral sounding positions. "Peaceable" meaning not willing to take stances and call people scummy. He's been mostly arguing logic and the scum reads he gives are pretty weak.

For example this post:

+ Show Spoiler +
On February 25 2013 12:35 Acrofales wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 25 2013 12:25 Hapahauli wrote:
On February 25 2013 12:22 Acrofales wrote:
On February 25 2013 12:18 Hapahauli wrote:
On February 25 2013 12:14 iamperfection wrote:
On February 25 2013 12:13 Hapahauli wrote:
On February 25 2013 12:11 iamperfection wrote:
On February 25 2013 12:03 Hapahauli wrote:
On February 25 2013 11:56 marvellosity wrote:
no idea how i fucked that one up

On February 25 2013 11:52 Hapahauli wrote:
[quote]

Oh come on Marv. I miss shit like that all the time as town and you know it.


the fact remains that you basically haven't done anything this game except attack iamp, and you've done so under false pretenses. I have no real reason to think of you as town right now


False pretenses? That's just one of the several reasons I'm suspicious of him right now. I think he's scummy due to his his nonsensical Thrawn read, as well has him name-dropping Dieno.

On February 25 2013 10:28 iamperfection wrote:
the answer is snarfs or dino man corazon.


Also, this post in general is really scummy in context. Why on earth is he answering a question for Corazon? In fact his posts right after that suggests that he's suspicious of Cora at point:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=398360&currentpage=12#221
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=398360&currentpage=12#222

The thought-process makes no sense. He's suspicious of Cora, yet he's willing to answer questions for him? Nope.

for someone that has played a ton of games with me it seems like you are puzzled by my actions.

dont get it hapa and this is still the only thing you are doing is commenting on me.
If this is what you plan on doing all cycle i think you have to be scum.

your tunneling of me for no reason other than you dont like some of my reads.

explain how any of my actions are scummy

am i afraid of the spotlight?
am i interested in lynching scum?

you havent done any of that and wont comment on anything else despite saying you have more material.
maybe your just bad at scum hapa


I'll admit you're getting better with the "spotlight" and "activity" thing.

Though answer what I posted above: why were you answering questions for Corazon?

because i felt like it.


Fuck it that a town iamp response if I've ever seen one. Time to look into some other peeps.


Iamp's last scumgame was GSL 3, about 4 months ago. Since then he's played quite a bit of town. Do you really think this one easy sentence is enough to proclaim him town?


That "I'll do whatever the fuck I want" mentality is town-iamp in a nutshell. Also, his activity is vastly-improved from when I started off on him. So it's a combination of the attitude that sentence purveys and his increased activity.

But he's had that attitude all game. Thrawn thought he was scum for it, you think he's town for it. I have no clue, I'd say he's playing pretty similar to the start of CT, where he was town, but I thought he could be scum. He is aggressive and doesn't give a shit.

However, the reasons I doubt him are still the same: he gives no reasons, isn't forceful about his reads and has this post:
Show nested quote +
On February 25 2013 07:04 iamperfection wrote:
On February 25 2013 07:02 yamato77 wrote:
On February 25 2013 06:59 marvellosity wrote:
Why do you think town will? As far as I can see you're the one in the thread being retarded so far, so if it does it'll be because of people like you.

Like I said, the last thing town needs is someone like you playing the hero.

The last thing town needs is a bunch of people yelling at each other to duel someone else.

But whatever, do what you want. I'm only going to duel someone if things go bad, which I think they will. If they go your way, good, but I doubt it. Town is rarely that cooperative.

meh you just haven't experienced many good towns im gonna guess

mafia will be under pressure from this setup im gonna guess since time is on our side. And looking at the player list some of the better players will likely be town so we will be able to sweat the mafia i would say

This post is pointless, but a suspicious mind might think why even bother bringing it up? How does Iamp know that good players are likely town, rather than scum?

I don't say anything of it is very conclusive, but given that you and thrawn reach different conclusions based on the same meta, one of you must be wrong and getting some more info on why you think the meta makes him town is important.



That's a lot of words/thoughts to write without coming to any real conclusions.

He's got an inconclusive read on iamp, and says one of hapa or thrawn might have extra information they're using to make differing meta reads on iamp. Since hapa is calling iamp town, thrawn is calling him scum, that means that the only scenarios where that original statement makes sense is either if hapa is mafia and iamp is town, or if thrawn and iamp are both scum. But Acro doesn't mention any of this....... I suspect because he hasn't actually thought through it to realize how silly it is. It doesn't seem like a real read that a townie would have.
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
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