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debears
Profile Joined September 2012
United States2516 Posts
January 15 2013 00:28 GMT
#20
a mayoral election?

/in
debears
Profile Joined September 2012
United States2516 Posts
January 15 2013 00:31 GMT
#21
On January 15 2013 07:47 GMarshal wrote:
hmmm...


GM if you play i will auto vote you for mayor
debears
Profile Joined September 2012
United States2516 Posts
January 16 2013 03:08 GMT
#71
oh shit this is almost full lol.

I am gonna have to get my election campaign speech written
debears
Profile Joined September 2012
United States2516 Posts
January 16 2013 23:52 GMT
#98
i support an election of chezinu of the brown
debears
Profile Joined September 2012
United States2516 Posts
January 17 2013 03:18 GMT
#109
we should make axle a bodyguard cuz mafia will never nk him mwahahaha
debears
Profile Joined September 2012
United States2516 Posts
January 20 2013 00:31 GMT
#205
/confirm
debears
Profile Joined September 2012
United States2516 Posts
January 20 2013 01:57 GMT
#213
I refuse to vote vivax

I support a chezinu election
debears
Profile Joined September 2012
United States2516 Posts
January 20 2013 02:01 GMT
#215
On January 20 2013 11:00 Toadesstern wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 20 2013 10:57 debears wrote:
I refuse to vote vivax

I support a chezinu election

that's the one guy out of the people I listed who is probably the hardest to read for everyone not being on TL playing mafia for 2 or 3 years. So why Chezinu?


I wanna see a serious chezinu. Besides, I heard he has pretty good reads.

Also, if I recall in his past games I've looked at, anytime he has a blue role he does well
debears
Profile Joined September 2012
United States2516 Posts
January 21 2013 03:41 GMT
#612
On January 21 2013 10:09 mkfuba07 wrote:
Toad: I think that sounds good, but who is "some idiot we all know to be town"? How do we find and agree on someone like that?


I'll be your doug
debears
Profile Joined September 2012
United States2516 Posts
January 21 2013 03:43 GMT
#613
Btw

I think Djo would be a good lynch option today or tomorow

I'm looking at the vivax/yamato reaction

I believe yamato to be more likely scum out of the two

more coming after i read the last 6 pages
debears
Profile Joined September 2012
United States2516 Posts
January 21 2013 04:41 GMT
#644
Btw. We are NOT putting Vivax as sheriff
debears
Profile Joined September 2012
United States2516 Posts
January 21 2013 04:49 GMT
#649
Chez who are your scumreads after prplhz?

The Brown Brotherhood needs to put on it's thinking caps
debears
Profile Joined September 2012
United States2516 Posts
January 21 2013 06:16 GMT
#692
My top scumread - Djo

I have a meta read on Djo that indicates he is scum. I will release that read if the mayor is going to consider lynching him seriously. If not, I will wait to day 2 to see if the read holds up.

There is one post that I believe indicated Djo is scum. And that is here

On January 21 2013 12:43 Djodref wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 21 2013 12:23 Mocsta wrote:
On January 21 2013 12:18 Djodref wrote:
But I think we should privilege a player looking obviously town than a good player for sheriff. Hence my candidature


Noted that you followed up on Clarity not once, but twice.

Please indulge your scum read/lynch candidate if you were instated.

I would like to see some detailed insight too pls.


As stated before, I would like to lynch Clarity. Because he is running for mayor, but has failed to provide any post with content so far, and that really doesn't look like town Clarity.
Also, I could lynch debears for not spamming the thread as usual when he is town.

Regarding Oats, I agree with the scumread on him by other players. Some things tipped me off in his filter.

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On January 20 2013 18:22 Oatsmaster wrote:
Hey,Toad why are you so concerned about voting a vet as Mayor? Can you read all the vets in this game?
Also, you havent said anything about Sandro's reluctance to run and I think that since you are a 'vet' you should know him better than 80% of the people in the game.

Hey Guys, Im not running for mayor cause Im not retarded and it makes me feel sad when I dont get votes. So I wont.

Any Questions?


Let's take a look at his opening post. He announces that he is not going to run, but asks if anyone has questions for him.
Why would he think that people would interrogate him about his opening post ? It could be self-guiltiness here.

Also his posts are lacking of content. For example, his call to the lurkers is quite useless.

Show nested quote +
On January 21 2013 11:47 Oatsmaster wrote:
Got sniped by yamato, URGH.

Grush,
Mkfuba,
Jiexian
Annul.
Where did you guys go??

Especially Annul. Pops in, posts random shit and fucks off.


I also don't like his reaction when Toad said he could be a good lynch. I'm expecting town Oats to be more aggressive, but his reaction here is quite passive.

Show nested quote +
On January 21 2013 12:08 Oatsmaster wrote:
Toad
Reasoning for lynching me
Oats looks like a decent lynch

uhuh. Besides that post, you havent mentioned scum at all.


We just got out of a big game where I did not spam d1 at all. How did Djo forget so easily?

This isn't reasoning I see town djo using at all.

The remaining parts that I'm not releasing yet should be pretty good also



My read on Yamato:

I rescind what I said earlier on him. His game so far seems to be agreeing with his townie tendencies.
debears
Profile Joined September 2012
United States2516 Posts
January 21 2013 06:26 GMT
#694
On January 21 2013 13:38 Toadesstern wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 21 2013 13:21 yamato77 wrote:
On January 21 2013 09:14 yamato77 wrote:
On January 21 2013 09:03 Vivax wrote:
## Vote Sandroba

If he's town, he won't be killed and be of great use.

If he's scum, he won't be able to hide it for long in that position.

Don't choose based on some mood. Even if sandro doesn't want it, a good town should want him in that position.

I don't like austin, I don't like gonzaw. Clarity didn't post his reads and he's usually not the guy who wants to take the lead. Voting Chezinu, are you fucking kidding me?Oatsmaster? Nah.

Vivax wtf kind of post is this?

Vote for a guy who doesn't want to be mayor, with really shitty "if he's scum" logic. There's never a good reason to give a free lynch to a player you don't have a really good town read on. You're proposing to trade the office of mayor, with the protection and the powerful synergy with mason roles, for a read on a single player that can easily be ascertained otherwise.

Why do you seem to care so little for who becomes mayor if it isn't you? You "don't like" Austin or gonzaw, but you don't say why. You seem ready to discredit Chezinu on a moment's notice, when I see him as a valid candidate.

This is not constructive town posting, Vivax. You've done very little but worry about your own image so far this game and it's worrisome to me that you're reacting so negatively to people not wanting to elect you.

Yes, Toad, this is totally me just saying Vivax doesn't think like me and is there for scum, you got me.

I think I did a pretty good job equating what he's doing with this post to scum motives in posts in my filter, and you brushing it off as him not agreeing with me is retarded and a malicious misrepresentation. You're just trying to make me look bad and get me angry at the same time.

Do you honestly think Vivax would be send out by his (supposedly) mafia team for a candacy as mayor?
Do you honestly think Vivax would be so carefree as mafia to candidate for mayor and not post for the next *idk* bunch of hours?
Don't you think Vivax would have been way to scared to candidate for mayor as mafia? Especially given his recent game as mafia that he, against all odds still won due to massive town modkills.
Do you honestly think Vivax would be dropping a vote like that if he has multiple people in irc / QT / whatever to ask on who to vote? With that "reasoning" he provided? Sure it's bullshit, it's one of the most retarded posts I've seen in this game so far but do you really think he'd do that as mafia?

Mafias think about what they're posting and while it might happen that they slip it is an incredibly far fetched assumption to believe team mafia would send out someone like vivax, who is a very new player, who isn't particularry known for being good as mafia + Show Spoiler [anecdote] +
remember YANMN? He was busted on d2 or something like that and got 2 more spare days because we had debears claiming SK in the thread and modkills that made people think it's better to no-lynch once to get one more cycle in case Vivax SOMEHOW ended up flipping town
to stay in the open, getting heat from everyone and do all that on purpose?

You've got to be kidding me if you think those are mafiatreats.


This is wrong. So wrong. Vivax had an extensive mayoral post written up before the game, as shown by how quickly he posted it after daypost.

His mayoral election run is a null tell
debears
Profile Joined September 2012
United States2516 Posts
January 21 2013 06:35 GMT
#696
On January 21 2013 15:32 mkfuba07 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 21 2013 15:26 debears wrote:
On January 21 2013 13:38 Toadesstern wrote:
On January 21 2013 13:21 yamato77 wrote:
On January 21 2013 09:14 yamato77 wrote:
On January 21 2013 09:03 Vivax wrote:
## Vote Sandroba

If he's town, he won't be killed and be of great use.

If he's scum, he won't be able to hide it for long in that position.

Don't choose based on some mood. Even if sandro doesn't want it, a good town should want him in that position.

I don't like austin, I don't like gonzaw. Clarity didn't post his reads and he's usually not the guy who wants to take the lead. Voting Chezinu, are you fucking kidding me?Oatsmaster? Nah.

Vivax wtf kind of post is this?

Vote for a guy who doesn't want to be mayor, with really shitty "if he's scum" logic. There's never a good reason to give a free lynch to a player you don't have a really good town read on. You're proposing to trade the office of mayor, with the protection and the powerful synergy with mason roles, for a read on a single player that can easily be ascertained otherwise.

Why do you seem to care so little for who becomes mayor if it isn't you? You "don't like" Austin or gonzaw, but you don't say why. You seem ready to discredit Chezinu on a moment's notice, when I see him as a valid candidate.

This is not constructive town posting, Vivax. You've done very little but worry about your own image so far this game and it's worrisome to me that you're reacting so negatively to people not wanting to elect you.

Yes, Toad, this is totally me just saying Vivax doesn't think like me and is there for scum, you got me.

I think I did a pretty good job equating what he's doing with this post to scum motives in posts in my filter, and you brushing it off as him not agreeing with me is retarded and a malicious misrepresentation. You're just trying to make me look bad and get me angry at the same time.

Do you honestly think Vivax would be send out by his (supposedly) mafia team for a candacy as mayor?
Do you honestly think Vivax would be so carefree as mafia to candidate for mayor and not post for the next *idk* bunch of hours?
Don't you think Vivax would have been way to scared to candidate for mayor as mafia? Especially given his recent game as mafia that he, against all odds still won due to massive town modkills.
Do you honestly think Vivax would be dropping a vote like that if he has multiple people in irc / QT / whatever to ask on who to vote? With that "reasoning" he provided? Sure it's bullshit, it's one of the most retarded posts I've seen in this game so far but do you really think he'd do that as mafia?

Mafias think about what they're posting and while it might happen that they slip it is an incredibly far fetched assumption to believe team mafia would send out someone like vivax, who is a very new player, who isn't particularry known for being good as mafia + Show Spoiler [anecdote] +
remember YANMN? He was busted on d2 or something like that and got 2 more spare days because we had debears claiming SK in the thread and modkills that made people think it's better to no-lynch once to get one more cycle in case Vivax SOMEHOW ended up flipping town
to stay in the open, getting heat from everyone and do all that on purpose?

You've got to be kidding me if you think those are mafiatreats.


This is wrong. So wrong. Vivax had an extensive mayoral post written up before the game, as shown by how quickly he posted it after daypost.

His mayoral election run is a null tell

But the fact that he posted it so quickly after the game started is, to some people, indicative of his towniness. I agree with them. A scum player would likely wait to post, until after he's discussed it in the QT. I don't think it's 100%, but it has me leaning town for him, and nothing has particularly tipped him back to scum yet.


Scum has nothing to risk from him running and everything to gain. He looks like he cares about town with it. Everyone will disregard him because he doesn't have good reads as town.

As town, he cares about town. He wants to become mayor despite his reads
debears
Profile Joined September 2012
United States2516 Posts
January 21 2013 06:37 GMT
#697
I'd be willing to lynch Toad at this point. His posting vibes are way off from his previous town games that I've played with him in
debears
Profile Joined September 2012
United States2516 Posts
January 21 2013 06:43 GMT
#700
Gonzaw

Do you honestly believe a town vivax would see himself good enough to be a good mayor?

Hell I purposely didn't post a mayoral election because I decided it wouldn't be beneficial for town when there are vets who are much better than me
debears
Profile Joined September 2012
United States2516 Posts
January 21 2013 06:43 GMT
#701
On January 21 2013 15:40 Toadesstern wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 21 2013 15:37 debears wrote:
I'd be willing to lynch Toad at this point. His posting vibes are way off from his previous town games that I've played with him in

last time you tried to lynch me while everyone was disagreeing you got lynched as SK, just saying.


What in the fuck does that have to do with this situation?
debears
Profile Joined September 2012
United States2516 Posts
January 21 2013 06:52 GMT
#703
On January 21 2013 15:50 mkfuba07 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 21 2013 15:43 debears wrote:
Gonzaw

Do you honestly believe a town vivax would see himself good enough to be a good mayor?

Hell I purposely didn't post a mayoral election because I decided it wouldn't be beneficial for town when there are vets who are much better than me

This is what your previous post got me thinking. I did the same thing, because I knew I wouldn't be as good as many other players in the game. Dammit... I was finally feeling reasonably sure about something, and now I'm unsure what to think again.

debears: Do you think vivax is overall null, or just his candidacy?


I believe he is over all null, along with his candidacy. He is hard to read because he doesn't have great reads.

However, I think a Toad red flip would actually make vivax green
debears
Profile Joined September 2012
United States2516 Posts
January 21 2013 15:15 GMT
#756
On January 21 2013 23:33 Djodref wrote:
Hello guys I'm back !

I'm thinking that FiveTouch is going to get elected as mayor today. I don't see strong contenders for the seat.
Prplhz didn't do anything to redeem himself in my view, so I'm fine with his lynch now.

I'm concerned with the Sheriff position. I'm not comfortable with Chezinu getting it, because I would prefer him not to be immune to detection. I'm disappointed that nobody took my sheriff candidature seriously, and I'm going to vote austin to promote him as a sheriff. I'll switch my vote to FiveTouch if I need to.

##Unvote
##Vote: austin


@ debears

Why didn't you post your meta case yet ?
And you were more active last game, at least at the beginning of it. It's true it was not a spam-fest in LVIII, but you should understand that your low activity is concerning
.


On January 12 2013 06:54 debears wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 12 2013 06:19 Djodref wrote:
On January 12 2013 05:57 debears wrote:
Also thrawn I thought u were scum at the end. I was gonna do a write up at day

Mu final scumteam was vivax, foolish, djo, thrawn, hiro/laser

I checked laser n2 amd sentinel n3

Thrawn your defense of me seemed way too fake considering thw rest of the thread wouldnt bother listening to me. Especially when you said you thought that I was that arrogant.


I don't think you would have any pull to lynch us though
I'm surprised that you were a cop ! What happened to you this game ?

Also, fun fact, but the host killed as many people as the mafia did this game ^^

Also I wanted to claim Tommy the Fireman the Vanilla Townie, but you guys didn't lynch me >.<

@ VE

Don't worry, I'll keep on playing, there is just not any game on-going at the moment. Also, I like you since you replaced HiroPro in the Looney Game, I just couldn't say it in this game
After all, I wanted to lynch you in Hero when you were deliberately derping tunneling Clarity, because I know town VE couldn't be this dumb.


1) i was purposely keeping away from leading town so I wouldnt get nked.
2) I didn't have time
3) theres no reason for me to spam like I do in minis due to the amount of players

4) there was very little effort and reason I'm the thread

Unfortunately I didn't know we would lose after only 2 mislynches in a 30 player game.

And then when a scum made a terrible case taking my quotes out of context the mafia had too much control of the thread for me to overturn them

But hey, guess I just need to get myself nked n1 from now on by playing better


I really do not think you are town djo

1) I said I would not reveal a meta case until you were a serious candidate for lynch. In other words, if a mayor has no good candidates, then I would reveal it. However, I like 5touch's lynch targets for now.
2) I highly doubt you didn't see this response to your quote from LVIII
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