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Promethelax
Profile Joined February 2012
Canada7089 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-12 16:41:23
January 12 2013 16:40 GMT
#7
/in
what thrawn said

Also after the awful thing that was LVIII my meta and I will be changing for the better.
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Promethelax
Profile Joined February 2012
Canada7089 Posts
January 12 2013 21:53 GMT
#41
Kush, do you plan on playing for real this game or just sleeping scum the whole time and blaming others for your loss? Because if it is the latter this is the last game I'll play with you.
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Promethelax
Profile Joined February 2012
Canada7089 Posts
January 12 2013 21:56 GMT
#43
I don't like policy lynching useless but readable trolls. Town can never afford it.I just also don't like playing with them.
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Promethelax
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Canada7089 Posts
January 12 2013 22:03 GMT
#46
Because someone who is readable based on emotion but does not play the game in any reasonable way isn't fun to play with. I always find myself having to just skip kush's posts because they have no value and I don't derive enjoyment from that.

Remember acme where he went on about flavour theory after hosts, scum and I all told him that scum would get fake claims? At the end of that game he sent me a pm about how that loss was 100% my fault. I had played one of the most townie games anyone had ever seen and Kush was somehow still a mislynch possibility with a confirmed green check on him.

After last game where Kush steeped you on a terribad case and didn't add anything of his own to it I'm fed up with his play. One liner spam with no content is not a reasonable way to play the game.
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Promethelax
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Canada7089 Posts
January 13 2013 11:09 GMT
#315
Lol at bugs, I'm scum because I was at work when the game started.

Is there some unspoken rule about us not asking grush to give us his town breadcrumb? Because that is all I want from him right now.

For those of you who haven't played with Kush assume he is similar to chezinu but without either the class or the ability to find scum. He is a troll who will troll all game long but it
Isn't too hard to get a read on. I would like to hear both Hapa and thrawn's opinions of Kush. They know how to read him, as do I.

Super, are you town?

Zentor, can I expect you to be useful This game or should I put you into the troll column?

Jay, what's your read of zentor?

Slopsh, opinions on anyone who doesn't have a million point scrabble name.
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Promethelax
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Canada7089 Posts
January 13 2013 11:31 GMT
#316
Since no one seems to be around I'm off to bed. Please ask anything you want answered in thread and I'll address it when I get back.

Bugs, is that four man list you posted something you believe? This is very important, please answer it. I thought about something in the shower that rests on the answer to this question.
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Promethelax
Profile Joined February 2012
Canada7089 Posts
January 13 2013 21:59 GMT
#396
On January 13 2013 23:36 MrZentor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 13 2013 14:28 Xatalos wrote:
Actually (@Jay) you haven't done anything meaningful after accusing Kushm4sta as scummy for his anti-town entrance. You have a lot of fluff in your filter, though. But that's actually worse than having nothing in its place. MrZentor keeps saying you're town for your spamminess, but that's not too hard for Mafia with some experience and knowledge to fake. All you have to do to keep MrZentor off you is to post something a lot, no matter how thought-out it is. I'm on the border of voting you right now based on this very early game alone. Prove me wrong. Start by scumhunting.


I've specifically stated several times that I don't have a town read based on how much he posts; my town read on him is based on the aggressiveness of his posts and the motives behind them. I've even gone into detail more than once on my read on him. Please read more carefully.

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On January 13 2013 15:08 Hapahauli wrote:
Oooh, thread blew up while I was gone =O

@ MrZ

I don't think it's good to give Kush a town read based on the 180. If it was another player, I'd agree with you, but Kush is some who doesn't mind the spotlight at-all as scum. I don't know what to think of him yet, and I'm going to wait until I see his scumhunting before I make a judgement.

@ Supersoft

Have you looked into MrZ's meta at all? Because those early-game town reads are super-normal for him.

Also, please reply to my previous post:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=392955&currentpage=6#119

Regarding Xatalos

His interaction with MrZ regarding Kush looks super-duper sketchy. He's balls-out convinced that Kush's 180 was scummy, then backs down to a "townish" read when confronted by MrZ.

That, and he's been soft-defending a few players early in the game. His soft-defense of supersoft in particular reads as very forced:
On January 13 2013 11:30 Xatalos wrote:
On January 13 2013 11:16 thrawn2112 wrote:
my thoughts on the grush/hopeless thing have almost been reset to null for the following reason:

-the reasoning hopeless gave for thinking grush is scum is pretty close to my own reasoning. if I HAD to pick out one of them as scum right now, it'd probably be hopeless

##unvote

Apart from a few specifics in the ongoing grush/hopeless stuff, by biggest concern so far is super.

A lot of his accusations and scumhunting techniques seemed fake/ineffective and he was obsessing over things that do not matter at all. He never actually came to any conclusions based on his questioning, and he seemed to disappear from the thread as activity was starting to pick up.


What are you saying? You agree with hopeless so he's more scummy than grush whom you think is scummy with the same reasons as hopeless?

Yeah, supersoft's focus on a single smilie was very overdone. But I think he looked pretty convinced about the matter. Why was it fake? Maybe he just wanted to pressure and get a reaction?


I'm generally hesitant about him given that I mislynched him in British Mini Mafia for his "wishy-washiness," but his filter doesn't look very good right now.


I actually have a null read one Kush. I was simply pointing out Xatalos's terrible logic and misuse of Occam's Razor.

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On January 13 2013 20:09 Promethelax wrote:
Lol at bugs, I'm scum because I was at work when the game started.

Is there some unspoken rule about us not asking grush to give us his town breadcrumb? Because that is all I want from him right now.

For those of you who haven't played with Kush assume he is similar to chezinu but without either the class or the ability to find scum. He is a troll who will troll all game long but it
Isn't too hard to get a read on. I would like to hear both Hapa and thrawn's opinions of Kush. They know how to read him, as do I.

Super, are you town?

Zentor, can I expect you to be useful This game or should I put you into the troll column?

Jay, what's your read of zentor?

Slopsh, opinions on anyone who doesn't have a million point scrabble name.


I've already been mildly helpful, so I don't know why you would ask that question, unless you hadn't really read the thread and just wanted to make it look like you were doing something.


Well Zentor, I don't disagree that you have been helpful but I remember you saying at the end of British (which I only followed somewhat peripherally) that you didn't want to have to play like a good townie who contributes ever again. I was trying to get some confirmation that this was not true and that you were indeed going to do your best to play a good game instead of trolling.

On January 14 2013 04:46 supersoft wrote:
we're like 20 hours into the game and am no magician. Thrawn said it all about sloosh in the thread.
I think this no more evidence against anyone else. Sloosh is the scummiest, his Xatolos-case is weak and doesnt convince me at all.
His attempt to connect me to xatulos is really bad and calling my reads and my actions bullshit obviously shows, that he has a really strange mindset if he's town.



SloOsh's points on you super are exactly why I am reluctant to vote him, he has accurately expressed the thought I have with your play. It is useless bullshit. While his case was weak it had some merit, even though I won't be voting X today. It had some merit means that he clearly was trying to actively push his lynch and, based on the post Bugs pulled up regarding his interaction with Hapa, was clearly involved with the thread while present.

On January 14 2013 04:33 thrawn2112 wrote:
attention thread, do not be dissuaded by wbg's attempts to avoid scumhunting by means of derailing the conversation by being an asshole. he's scum.


Attention Thrawn. Bugs is actually an asshole. I don't think he is scum based on his play yet and I don't plan on voting him today.

Bugs, please answer my question. Was your four person list something you, yourself, believe or believed?

On January 14 2013 02:22 thrawn2112 wrote:
thrawn's current lynch list = sloosh/hopeless/prom


What has Supersoft done to get off that list? His play thus far has been incredibly anti-town. He posted a huge list full of nothing (seriously has reads based on if people will call themselves town) and is trying to get vets lynched day one. Something he said he would never do as town. Along with that Super has gotten ultra defensive when Sloosh called his posting bullshit and he has continued to fling shit around the thread. I find SS scummiest and plan on voting him today. In fact ##Vote: Supersoft
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Promethelax
Profile Joined February 2012
Canada7089 Posts
January 13 2013 22:17 GMT
#403
On January 14 2013 07:04 MrZentor wrote:
I was joking.


That is all I wanted to hear. Thank you.

On January 14 2013 07:05 supersoft wrote:
Who do you think you are, to vote for me?
Seriously who do you think you are?
anti-town? my play? What the fuck?


Its nice of you to continue to be anti-town in response to me. I think I am a me and that is damn good enough to vote your sorry ass. Good of you to freak out at me though.
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Promethelax
Profile Joined February 2012
Canada7089 Posts
January 13 2013 22:17 GMT
#404
Sloosh is in fact a vet, yes.
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Promethelax
Profile Joined February 2012
Canada7089 Posts
January 13 2013 22:20 GMT
#405
I would also add that you are slinging a lot of shit onto Hapa while calling him a townie. Although he may not yet be a vet he is one of the strongest town players to have come out of TL in the last six months. He has many times single handedly carried his town to victory against all odds and with terrible towns so your shit slinging on him is both unwarranted and anti-town. If you read him as scum that would be one thing but your play has been to detract from his ability, not to suggest he is scum.
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Promethelax
Profile Joined February 2012
Canada7089 Posts
January 13 2013 22:31 GMT
#409
Okay, just wanted to be sure. I just don't understand where the necessary town read comes in for other players specifically SS but also interestingly Kush. (On the nature of Kush the dude hilariously was smurfing in a newbie game concurrently with playing in this game).

SS has now disappeared after asking who I am to vote him and not managing to give any reasonable explanation for his ply. My vote is staying very happily where it is. SS is scum and should swing.
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Promethelax
Profile Joined February 2012
Canada7089 Posts
January 13 2013 22:37 GMT
#414
But Bugs, Kush was not on your list while he was still in the game and before he got modkilled for cheating newbie games. Why not? And if not either of SS/LM who do you want to lynch now?

Zentor, please explain your town read on super.

Lazer, I assume you started writing that before I posted my suspicions on Super. True or false? Who is your next highest scum read and why?
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Promethelax
Profile Joined February 2012
Canada7089 Posts
January 13 2013 22:50 GMT
#420
Bugs, what does SS's attempt to lay his defense at your feet mean? I know you two have a history so any insight you have would be greatly appreciated.
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Promethelax
Profile Joined February 2012
Canada7089 Posts
January 14 2013 00:02 GMT
#441
Hey Hapa y u so scum?

okay now that is out of my system, what do you make of SS? Is there any reason to take him as town? I can't find a single one.

Are you still looking at Xat as scum? If not he who?
TL Mafia. Love it. Play it. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 I find Kennigit really attractive. If anyone has a picture of him please feel free to PM it to me.
Promethelax
Profile Joined February 2012
Canada7089 Posts
January 14 2013 00:26 GMT
#444
hapa, aren't you pressuring weak lynch bait in Xat and Ru? Speaking of players who have vanished for a while what about SloOsh? Why isn't he on your list?
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Promethelax
Profile Joined February 2012
Canada7089 Posts
January 14 2013 00:29 GMT
#445
On January 14 2013 07:24 Hopeless1der wrote:
so uhh..i guess /afk


Waht about this? Two hours after his last post and two hours ago without posting anything else. Is this scum hopeless or scummy town hopeless?
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Promethelax
Profile Joined February 2012
Canada7089 Posts
January 14 2013 00:44 GMT
#451
And as to the case on Xatalos, have you looked at his play in Paranoia? (SloOsh you get to answer this one as well). Hapa I'll tell you what I think after the answer to this.

Lazer, what are your thoughts on people who are less soft? I know you 'agree with everything I say' but what about thinking instead of sheeping. How do you see Xat's play and how about SloOsh's?

Thrawn, me no likey your list. Explain it to me, why are each of those four present. Would you really be comfortable lynching any of them? Why do you have a town read on Lazer and SS?
TL Mafia. Love it. Play it. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 I find Kennigit really attractive. If anyone has a picture of him please feel free to PM it to me.
Promethelax
Profile Joined February 2012
Canada7089 Posts
January 14 2013 00:55 GMT
#456
what drastic change in playstyle are we talking about here SloOsh? Explain it to me like you want me to understand it.
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Promethelax
Profile Joined February 2012
Canada7089 Posts
January 14 2013 01:36 GMT
#458
'my side' of this issue is the same as yours. I find Xata scummy, I jsut wanted to get better reads on both you and hapa and your targeting fo Xat was a great way to do it.

In paranoia Xat is wishy washy and terrible but he is also very try-hard, as he was in british. He I'm not getting that same vibe here and I am happy to lynch him today. My short list of lynchables (like lunchables but with more murder) are Xatalos, Ruuch, SuperSoft and another dude. We'll talk about him later.
TL Mafia. Love it. Play it. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 I find Kennigit really attractive. If anyone has a picture of him please feel free to PM it to me.
Promethelax
Profile Joined February 2012
Canada7089 Posts
January 14 2013 01:44 GMT
#460
It is because I hadn't read through his other games very closely. I looked at his play in British and in Paranoia and thought about it some more.

At the time yes I found SS the scummiest, I was not comfortable voting someone who I knew had gotten mislynched in Brit for being kinda scummy looking. Now I am comfortable voting him today; though I'd like to hear more from him.
TL Mafia. Love it. Play it. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 I find Kennigit really attractive. If anyone has a picture of him please feel free to PM it to me.
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