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Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
December 02 2012 00:25 GMT
#18
/obs
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
December 02 2012 06:53 GMT
#33
My God, this game is going to be awesome with Yamato in it. I hope he rolls scum.
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
December 02 2012 06:56 GMT
#35
You know, I still have an 'in' left. . . The temptation.
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
December 02 2012 18:40 GMT
#52
On December 02 2012 18:20 Oatsmaster wrote:
CC IS NOT PLAYING??? </3



On December 02 2012 19:34 DarthPunk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 02 2012 15:56 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
You know, I still have an 'in' left. . . The temptation.


You should /in. Then we can dub you all the class of XXXI-XXXII.

<3



On December 02 2012 19:47 Promethelax wrote:
Cheese, brah, why you gotta play me like this? C'mon man, this game is for you. Don't leave me hanging.


Convinced. You all have earned the honor of the Cheesecake's last /in

/unOBS
/in


I'm 3 for 3 right now, so you all better not fuck it up.
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-02 19:34:21
December 02 2012 19:17 GMT
#54
If Oats / Yamato get scumteam, Host is trolling.

edit: host never trolls, EVER.
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
December 02 2012 23:48 GMT
#65
He doesn't have to be scum for us to lynch him.
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
December 03 2012 03:52 GMT
#79
On November 27 2012 11:57 Oatsmaster wrote:
also to everyone who said that I tunneled CC, You do not understand what tunneled MEANS.


On December 03 2012 11:49 Oatsmaster wrote:
Step 1: Tunnel the vettiest player off their first post
Step 2: Lynch All Lurkers
Step 3: Claim Blue
Step 4: ????
Step 5: WIN


Nice contradiction, brah.
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
December 03 2012 17:07 GMT
#131
Next person to post a picture of cheesecake gets +15 points.
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
December 04 2012 00:03 GMT
#151
At least you can't roll vig and shoot a random townie in this setup.
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
December 04 2012 01:05 GMT
#157
^ Don't even try to steal my opening posts.

Howdy y'all! My name is Mr. Cheesecake, sheriff 'round these parts. A few questions to start things off:

1.) How many games of Mafia have you played / obs'd? Include roles if you wish.

2.)
Would you lynch a lurker (I.E, few posts, little content) over a minor-moderate scumread? Explain.

3.) What is your favorite color?



For me:

1) Never obs, played three games. First as scum, next two as town.

2) Considering the last game, no. I should have stuck to my Yamato lynch because, as the game progressed, him being scum kept recurring in my head and I couldn't shake the possibility. The munk lynch, esp. it being a last minute switch by me, was a mistake.

3) Crimson.

RIP GMarshal
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
December 04 2012 01:13 GMT
#161
Actually answer the question. Explain why you think lynching a lurker over a minor/moderate scumread is bad.
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
December 04 2012 01:39 GMT
#170
Oats seems suspicious to me with his first post. I suggest we lynch him.

Also, Axle, opinion on lurker lynching over a moderate scumread - GO.
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
December 04 2012 01:56 GMT
#183
On December 04 2012 10:55 Kickstart wrote:
Yes, that is why you say "don't lurk or else" and move on, not spend numerous pages discussing it and asking questions about policy lynching - spending tons of time discussing policy lynch is unproductive. As soon as everyone agrees that lurking will make people seriously consider lynching you move on.


It's been like a page. Calm yourself.
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
December 04 2012 02:03 GMT
#189
@jidolboy

What do you believe is the best thing for a good town atmosphere Day 1?

@Kickstart

You seem totes paranoid right now, lol.

@Oats


Besides not being a total obv scummer, what was the best thing you learned from last game?
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
December 04 2012 02:13 GMT
#203
@Anyone

In your opinion, what differentiates bad(newbie) town play from scum play?
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
December 04 2012 02:19 GMT
#213
On December 04 2012 11:15 yamato77 wrote:
EBWOP: Also, why do you ask?


I struggled with reading the terrible town (obvious scummers were actually town) from the actual scum lying underneath the surface.

Think to yourself what you will need to look for in scum this game. Analyze everyone's cases for motive and rhetoric: Do they actually believe this guy is suspicious? Or is he just calling him bad / putting on a show?. Bad logic can be applied by either faction.
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
December 04 2012 02:29 GMT
#224
On December 04 2012 11:16 Rad wrote:
@kick sorry missed the jkjk =/ I'm quick to jump on shit ideas ^^


What did Kick's "shit idea" tell you in terms of alignment? If Kick truly believed he wanted to lynch Oats for behavior last game, is that scum motivated?

@Sylencia

Come dip your feet in the water of discussion, it's fine once you get used to it.
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
December 04 2012 02:40 GMT
#232
On December 04 2012 11:36 Rad wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 04 2012 11:29 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
On December 04 2012 11:16 Rad wrote:
@kick sorry missed the jkjk =/ I'm quick to jump on shit ideas ^^


What did Kick's "shit idea" tell you in terms of alignment? If Kick truly believed he wanted to lynch Oats for behavior last game, is that scum motivated?

@Sylencia

Come dip your feet in the water of discussion, it's fine once you get used to it.


Yes, lynching someone strictly based on their play in a previous game seems stupid. Town wants to lynch scum, not shoot in the dark and hope. Scum wants to do stupid shit like lynch the easy target.

Do you read that idea differently? Would you be ok with the idea of lynching oats due to his play last game?


Of course we shouldn't lynch Oats for his play last game. But I would disagree on the scum motivation part. It makes no sense from either alignment because you'll be outcast for wanting to do it in the first place. Either way, the fact that you jumped on the joke idea made me lol on the inside.
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
December 04 2012 15:55 GMT
#368
On Rad:

On December 04 2012 10:29 Rad wrote:
@yamato I'll answer your #3 because it is so relevant: cheesecake of course (of the Mr. variety)

Now on to CC's questions... =P

1. I've played 2 games of mafia, NMM XXVIII and XXX, town in both. First was vig, second vt. I obs'd a good amount of chrono until it became overwhelming (think I got 140 pages in then my head exploded) and all of last NMM, and some of paranoid. Played a lot of sc2mafia the past week or two which probably translates to shit for TL mafia skills, but we'll see.

2. No idea cheese, I feel like that scenario would have to be played out however it should be at the time. I can't see myself leaning one way or the other 100% of the time =/ Probably lean towards lurker lynch I guess? minor-moderate is going to be pretty subjective...

3. Green. I'll let you figure out why (spoiler: it's cause I'm a genius).


"I have no idea who to lynch, but I can justify it because of this post!"


On December 04 2012 11:16 Rad wrote:
@kick sorry missed the jkjk =/ I'm quick to jump on shit ideas ^^


Townies don't jump on shit ideas. We jump on scum ideas. Shit ideas can come from either faction.

On December 04 2012 11:36 Rad wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 04 2012 11:29 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
On December 04 2012 11:16 Rad wrote:
@kick sorry missed the jkjk =/ I'm quick to jump on shit ideas ^^


What did Kick's "shit idea" tell you in terms of alignment? If Kick truly believed he wanted to lynch Oats for behavior last game, is that scum motivated?

@Sylencia

Come dip your feet in the water of discussion, it's fine once you get used to it.


Yes, lynching someone strictly based on their play in a previous game seems stupid. Town wants to lynch scum, not shoot in the dark and hope. Scum wants to do stupid shit like lynch the easy target.

Do you read that idea differently? Would you be ok with the idea of lynching oats due to his play last game?


Rhetorical question pretty much. What's the purpose in asking this?

On December 04 2012 12:59 Rad wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 04 2012 12:47 Kickstart wrote:
I may be too early to jump the gun on thinking yamato is being scummy, but I haven't liked his incessant policy talk and now he just jumps on someone who he is badgering. Thoughts everyone?


I think he goes red with anger easily and if town, confirmation bias will kill his ability to reason. However, his actions are pushing for conversation and that's a good thing (especially at the beginning). If axle feels pressured to talk more, great, and if he doesn't, we can read the situation based on that.

I don't really like how you stopped it early on though. Would you prefer yamato ask a question, get ignored, and drop it?


Another useless, rhetorical question. I read this post as "Why aren't you guys bickering at each other more?"

@Rad, jiodboy, scylencia


What are your thoughts on the game so far? Scumreads?
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
December 04 2012 16:34 GMT
#373
On December 05 2012 01:29 Oatsmaster wrote:
Kickstart is scummy.


Show nested quote +
On December 04 2012 11:04 Kickstart wrote:
Rephrase your question, it makes no sense to me. I am saying that if I have a strong scum read on someone I am pushing that read over a lurker lynch, but if I have no strong read I would be fine with a lurker lynch. I have no idea if I will get a scum read or if I get one how strong it will be, there isn't enough to go on yet.


Last game, we lynched lurkers and it didnt go too well, vets posted and said that its unlikely that a scum is a lurker and STILL
Kickstart posts this. It reads as very wishy, washy allowing him to keep all his options open.
Lynching a lurker is good for scum because it doesnt really show strong opinions either way because its a lurker, coinflippy.


Show nested quote +
On December 04 2012 12:45 Kickstart wrote:
##FoS yamato

Badgering people then voting them when they ignore his badgering


This vote is so bad, no explaination why this is scum..

Show nested quote +
On December 04 2012 14:24 Kickstart wrote:
For example I FoSd Yamato because I don't like much his actions up to this point. It was mostly that what he was doing didn't sit well with me therefor I pointed out what I didn't like and asked others about it. Just the fact that to me he seemed really incessant with his policy talks and then just immediately threw a vote on someone when they didn't answer him. My reaction was just a gut reaction but to figure out if I think it is scummy or not I need to look through his dialogue and try and figure out his intentions, but I wanted to see what others thought about it if anything.



Kickstart is looking for town support here, he doesnt want to vote yamato if no one else votes for him...

His whole case on yamato is just him jumping on a small thing that he doesnt even explain how it is scum aligned or even aligned at all.

##Vote: Kickstart


"Kickstart is bad, I'll vote for him."

I see no motivation for scum here. How is Kickstart pushing a scum agenda?

And that's not a vote. It's a FoS.
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
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