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da0ud
Profile Joined April 2011
Hong Kong252 Posts
October 19 2012 07:18 GMT
#100
I am in the middle of a NOT NEWBIE game and I am having a hard time....

Hence I think this newbie game will be much more appropriate for me to learn/enjoy the game better.

/in

Da0ud.
da0ud
Profile Joined April 2011
Hong Kong252 Posts
October 25 2012 02:16 GMT
#204
On October 25 2012 09:06 debears wrote:
A few things I'd like to know from everyone.
1) How many games have you played in?
2) How many have you observed seriously?
3)Will you be normally around for lynch?


1) 1 game played
2) 1 game observed apart from the one I played in
3) Usually I have a hard time making deadlines because it is quite early in the morning in HK.
da0ud
Profile Joined April 2011
Hong Kong252 Posts
October 25 2012 04:04 GMT
#211
On October 25 2012 12:58 Djodref wrote:
I don't think it's going to be difficult to find a scum D1. It's better for us to be confident about this because I think it's quite easy to reveal scum newbies when you put pressure on them.
Plus, if you are town and you are not confident, people are going to feel it through your posts and are going to become suspicious about you.
We have to be assertive and for this, we have to be confident in our ability to find scum. I know it looks difficult at first but don't forget that scum players are likely to be as inexperienced as you in this game.


So basically you have faith in all of us...
Not to sure how to take this post.
da0ud
Profile Joined April 2011
Hong Kong252 Posts
October 25 2012 04:18 GMT
#215
Using my very short experience of mafia, I would tend to go hunt for lurkers first.

In my last game, there were three mafia players, two of them being the two biggest lurkers and the third one (Djordref) being very active and playing the "friendly newbie" card.

It is quite easy for newbies to get confused, and I found myself changing my mind many times on active players, none of them actually being scum.
da0ud
Profile Joined April 2011
Hong Kong252 Posts
October 25 2012 05:05 GMT
#239
On October 25 2012 13:45 debears wrote:
You don't understand having confidence to push d1 scum reads over lurkers?

I do agree with you on this one. That makes no point lynching a lurker over a clear scum read. Even though I am not sure we will have very clear reads on day1.

On October 25 2012 13:45 debears wrote:
What do scum want? Easy lynchs. Who are easy lynches? Lurkers.

I am not sure about this point.
It makes sense for scum to hide among lurkers:
- If the attention is not put on lurkers the scummy lurker moves on undetected.
- If the attention is put on the scummy lurker, then it is easy for the other scums to bully him and gain town credit.
da0ud
Profile Joined April 2011
Hong Kong252 Posts
October 25 2012 09:09 GMT
#263
On October 25 2012 17:52 Djodref wrote:
I'm insisting on this because it was not my mentality at all at the beginning of NMMXVIII, you case see this in my quotes in debear previous posts. I want the "scared" newbies (like daoud) to boost their confidence and go scumhunt.


I am not scared anymore... And I will hunt you down this time if I have to
da0ud
Profile Joined April 2011
Hong Kong252 Posts
October 25 2012 09:15 GMT
#265
@Roco

Could you explain,

- if you will look at the one who has litterraly "the most posts", which would be stupid if he brings goodcontent for the town to scumhunt,
- or if you will look at the one who posts the most useless or wishy-washy content ?
da0ud
Profile Joined April 2011
Hong Kong252 Posts
October 25 2012 09:29 GMT
#267
@debears

I do like your attitude in putting a case up against Rad at the moment and I mostly agree on the content and arguments behind.
However, I do believe you are getting a bit to enthusiastic at the moment. Try to remain a little bit open-minded at the beginning of the game. You don't want to put all your focus on Rad and forget about the others.
I would encourage other people to participate more in order to have a clearer picture on who wants what, and how they plan to scum-hunt.

Anyway, your attitude gives me a townie-read on you, deabers.
Neutral on Rad and Djo.
I, however have a scum first hunch on Roco and his weird post, where he seem to encourage people not to post: less posts => less information => good for mafia.
da0ud
Profile Joined April 2011
Hong Kong252 Posts
October 25 2012 09:30 GMT
#268
On October 25 2012 18:25 Djodref wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 25 2012 18:09 da0ud wrote:
On October 25 2012 17:52 Djodref wrote:
I'm insisting on this because it was not my mentality at all at the beginning of NMMXVIII, you case see this in my quotes in debear previous posts. I want the "scared" newbies (like daoud) to boost their confidence and go scumhunt.


I am not scared anymore... And I will hunt you down this time if I have to


daoud

Good !

I'm not planning on defending you this game so I expect you to do your job as town

What's your take on the Rad-debears argument by the way?


How would you already I am town ? From you role and a first early read ?
da0ud
Profile Joined April 2011
Hong Kong252 Posts
October 25 2012 09:30 GMT
#269
EBWOP : How would you already know I am town ?
da0ud
Profile Joined April 2011
Hong Kong252 Posts
October 25 2012 13:53 GMT
#294
On October 25 2012 19:25 Dandel Ion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 25 2012 18:30 da0ud wrote:
On October 25 2012 18:25 Djodref wrote:
On October 25 2012 18:09 da0ud wrote:
On October 25 2012 17:52 Djodref wrote:
I'm insisting on this because it was not my mentality at all at the beginning of NMMXVIII, you case see this in my quotes in debear previous posts. I want the "scared" newbies (like daoud) to boost their confidence and go scumhunt.


I am not scared anymore... And I will hunt you down this time if I have to


daoud

Good !

I'm not planning on defending you this game so I expect you to do your job as town

What's your take on the Rad-debears argument by the way?


How would you already I am town ? From you role and a first early read ?

Please explain this statement.
Why would he 'know' you to be town from his role??

I am feeling a bit suspicious about Djodref. I was wondering if he knew my role because he is mafia.
But I forgot there might be a serial killer as well in this gane. Hence my point against him is not valid I admit it.
da0ud
Profile Joined April 2011
Hong Kong252 Posts
October 26 2012 13:33 GMT
#502
Sorry I am just back. I have been away of HK and have no internet connection. Using wifi now to post.

As I was expecting in the beginning we are having a hard time finding with "confidence" scum.
Deb and rad have been so active and poking at each otjers tht
da0ud
Profile Joined April 2011
Hong Kong252 Posts
October 26 2012 13:41 GMT
#504
Ebwop : sorry phone posting. Ill finsih the post :

Deb and rad have been so active and poking at each otjers that they actually look very townie to me. Pushing ideas, bringing content, putting pressure.

Talking about smileyDjo he has put a lot of pressure on people. Asking open questions etc. For having played a game with him where he played to nice lovable newbie card, I believe he is trying to step up and actually be a leader for town. I put him 90% town.

I totally hate the lurkers who actually do not post anything and hide to avoid potential suspicions. Id rather lynch lurking townie first day who doesn't help get info and push others to scumslip.

If scum are among active player we will have time to hunt them down. They will contradict themselves.

And we have semi lurkers like roco or blending ini. Which are pretty much as bad for town.

I would like to put my vote on Ini at the moment cause roco seems like a total newbie trying to stand out.

##Vote Ini
da0ud
Profile Joined April 2011
Hong Kong252 Posts
October 26 2012 14:03 GMT
#511
@ dandel and alan.

Yes this is not entirely true anymore I agree.
However I believe he is still blending in.
I dun hv a computer to put a real case on him with proper formatting.
I think he is still lurking (at least as much as he can without being caught by lurking policy).
His defense was pretty weak and dandel your case on him does summarize well the odd point that stand out of his posts since he has come to defend himself.
da0ud
Profile Joined April 2011
Hong Kong252 Posts
October 26 2012 14:05 GMT
#513
I did put my vote now because I have very little chance to get the internet much until deadline.
da0ud
Profile Joined April 2011
Hong Kong252 Posts
October 26 2012 14:07 GMT
#515
One thing worries me and seems to have caught no ones attention.
Clarity has been modkilled!! We are already one less town!! And he was posting actual content.
da0ud
Profile Joined April 2011
Hong Kong252 Posts
October 26 2012 17:44 GMT
#587
On October 27 2012 00:30 kushm4sta wrote:
Hi guys I read the thread (not super close towards the end though because I wanted to finish).

I think we should lynch Daoud.

He is posting just enough to be considered not a lurker. This level of activity is exactly what you want to lynch d1.

He catches Djo in the classic "scumslip," which does not always indicate scum, but that's not important.
"Why did you call me town djo?"
Then he says oh there might be a sk I guess my point is invalid. Makes no sense.
Bringing it up in the first place is a null tell, because it's an easy catch. But dropping it for such a stupid reason, that is scummy.

This is his most significant post so far:
Show nested quote +
On October 26 2012 22:41 da0ud wrote:
Ebwop : sorry phone posting. Ill finsih the post :

Deb and rad have been so active and poking at each otjers that they actually look very townie to me. Pushing ideas, bringing content, putting pressure.

Talking about smileyDjo he has put a lot of pressure on people. Asking open questions etc. For having played a game with him where he played to nice lovable newbie card, I believe he is trying to step up and actually be a leader for town. I put him 90% town.

I totally hate the lurkers who actually do not post anything and hide to avoid potential suspicions. Id rather lynch lurking townie first day who doesn't help get info and push others to scumslip.

If scum are among active player we will have time to hunt them down. They will contradict themselves.

And we have semi lurkers like roco or blending in. Which are pretty much as bad for town.

I would like to put my vote on Ini at the moment cause roco seems like a total newbie trying to stand out.

##Vote Ini


So he gives off some town reads. Djo is 90% town... what the fuck. I don't see how you can think that after playing last game with him. Asking open questions makes him 90% town? ok
Show nested quote +

I totally hate the lurkers who actually do not post anything and hide to avoid potential suspicions. Id rather lynch lurking townie first day who doesn't help get info and push others to scumslip.

This is such a weird time to talk about lurkers, unless he is giving that as his reason for voting Ini, but Ini isn't even close to the biggest lurker.

So why is he voting for ini? 2 words: "Blending in." Sick case bro.

##vote da0ud







Kush,

I do not agree with your points against me.

First, you catch me for doing just what is needed not to be a lurker. I did explain before your post why I was posting few messages only. I am out of town (or country : in macau gambling in casinos). It is hence very hard for me to follow in a timely manner the thread. I need to find 3G and phone post. I still wanted to post and give my opinion because otherwise yes I could hv voted myself for lurking which I don't wanna be doing. Ill be back in HK tomorrow night for me.

2) yes I caught the slip because it was addressed to me. It could be important at some point though. And you should remember from my last game I like to point out that kind of tells. Me saying he would not be 100% sure I am town even if he was scum is valid. There is a small probablity there is a SK hence he cannot discount that fact and could not tell with 100% confidence I am town.

3) you are saying what the fuck on my read on djo and make the exact same case after. I said I believe he is town because he is trying to change his meta. He is trying to be aggressive this game to get his targets to react and potentially slip. I would not lynch Djo.

4) I maintain my point on Ini. I cannot elaborate even though I would like to have a nice conputer screen to do so. To me he is still semi lurking. Replied to accusations by giving town reads. Says he would put a vote on dandel and ends up putting it on imcasey.
da0ud
Profile Joined April 2011
Hong Kong252 Posts
October 26 2012 17:55 GMT
#589
I think at the pace Djo is posting it should be easy to get a valid scum read on him at some point in the near future if he is actually scum.
He is still quite newbie-ish and trying to change his meta. He felt uncomfortable last game when targeted as mafia and I would expect him to feel the same pressure this game again. I think he is open and provocative when someone attacks him or when he attacks someone.

One thing djo. Why are you changing your mind on Ini? I think voting and unvoting and voting again creates too much unnecessary noise. If u were not going to keep your vote you could have voted later.
da0ud
Profile Joined April 2011
Hong Kong252 Posts
October 27 2012 03:28 GMT
#704
Gg guys.
Just back to see I am dead...
Enjoy the game, ill enjoy my vacation :D no need to phone post anymore.
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