GSL Open Mini Mafia

On September 06 2012 08:13 Quatol wrote:
there's like 3 people in the thread. and he's already way more active and invested than in the spate of scum games he's had in minis recently.

of course prplhz is a good enough player to put this on, but atm i'm betting this isn't the case

On September 06 2012 07:03 Keirathi wrote:

I don't think so.

I think he's saying that you first post was Kenpachi Rule based on prplhz's first post. Then prplhz Kenpachi Rule'd you first post, and added OMGUS.

Kenpachi Rule < Kenpachi Rule + OMGUS is basically what he was trying to say I think.

The math makes sense, but the premise doesn't necessarily. I've seen plenty of townies go out of their way to make bogus cases based on someone's first post just to get discussion started. I don't think its particularly alignment telling.

On September 06 2012 07:16 Keirathi wrote:

What is there to have an opinion about? Both votes are almost equally dumb, but I'm not sure how to read them alignment wise. TL Mafia in general is full of dumb early votes that almost never actually catch scum.


This recent post brings up some more questions though. If you weren't "really going to defend [yourself] against [his] case because it is beyond horrible", then why did you feel the need to OMGUS his vote with a vote of your own?

On September 06 2012 07:35 Keirathi wrote:

Yes. That's exactly what I'm asking.

Was Risen's vote dumb? Yes.
Was it scummily dumb? Hard to say for sure, but first guess would be no. If he has other scummy things to go along with it, then obviously my opinion would change. It felt a lot like a random pressure vote that happens in every game ever.
Did it deserve a vote? No, I don't think it did. People make bad "cases" all the time, especially early in day1. The victim's reactions to them are just as telling as the bad case.

See NMM XXII. Mordanis made a stupidly bad case on me super early in day 1. What did I do? Brushed it off with a 1-liner and kept looking for scum.

Basically, I find it hard to believe that you could get a solid scum read on Risen based on his "case" considering basically every TL Mafia game starts out with an equally dumb "case".

On September 06 2012 07:49 Keirathi wrote:

I don't have a strong opinion on you. At least, certainly not strong enough for a vote yet. I don't believe in throwing votes around lightly. If you look through all of my games, I've only unvoted TWICE in all of them. I need information to make up my mind, but once I do I stick with it. That's why I'm asking you questions and writing out responses to your posts.