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Hi there,
the recent win of Scarlett (congratulations btw) in the WCS NA, raised an interesting question for me. How should we view transgenders in sports?
I wanna say upfront, no disrespect to people who are transgender this is really just a general discussion about the topic.
So Scarlett was born a boy and decided to become a girl. As a girl then she won the WCS NA and everyone is yelling "wow outplayed by a girl lol" and stuff like that. I don't really see it that way. Let's shift the whole thing to other sports and to other people.
Current world record in 100m is held by Usain Bolt with 9.58 in August 2009 (According to Wikipedia). So imagine he would say now hey, I feel I was born in the wrong body and become transgender.
The best time for a woman on that distance is 10.49 by Florence Griffith-Joyner in 1988, so about 1 Second slower than Usain Bolt. Which would mean that if Bolt ran this record as a woman he would hold the world record in Women's 100 metres for a very, very long time if not forever. So my question would be if you treat transgender men in sport as normal women, wouldn't that distort the whole sport and achievements? Wouldn't other female participants be up against a huge disadvantage?
[I know that Starcraft is a game of the brain and not so much of strength, still men are by far dominant in this game, means if a transgender would sign up for female events she would have a huge advantage.] -> I put this in brackets now sinced it caused an offtopic discussion. What I meant to say is that currently the rate of pro gamers is way bigger on the male part, the game is marketed towards boys/men and also the ratio men/women is favoring the men - so if several progamers would turn out to be transgender they would dominate every female event. At least that would be my theory. <-- EDITED
I find this a confusing topic and hope I didn't offend anyone by laying down my thoughts. I just like to get some diversion on this to see different points of views.
Thanks in advance
P.S. English is not my first language, so I apologize for mistakes.
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I'm amazed you mentioned track and field and not the South African lady with internal testes or whatever it turned out to be.
edit: actually I guess that's transsexual and not transgender?
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Why does it matter, a person is a person.
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If Usain Bolt turns into a girl he can't run as fast.
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I think for the most part transgendered people actually have the opposite gender brain compared to their body.
So I'd say just because she isn't a biological women, doesn't mean she has any advantage over other women.
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At least OP says what he's thinking instead of the rest of the sheep that try to conform.
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I know that Starcraft is a game of the brain and not so much of strength, still men are by far dominant in this game, means if a transgender would sign up for female events she would have a huge advantage.
and how would being male have an advantage in the game of starcraft? Men are dominant because theres like a 100000:1 ratio of men playing this game overall as compared to women. And theres an even bigger ratio of men who train at pro level compared to that of the women? Which women are actually playing and training at pro lvl right now? 2 or 3?
its so much different in sports because physical strength differs greatly between women and men. Transgenders will have to compete at what their physical gender is. Starcraft is mostly mind games, so...
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Everyone knows that having a penis automatically makes you better at video games.
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This isn't that trollish. It actual does raise some interesting questions.
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I don't understand your post. What's the comparison to Starcraft? You mention Athletics and an athlete "switching" from male to female competition, but there's no parallel to that in Starcraft, MLG is MLG regardless of what gender you are.
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On August 27 2012 03:10 viOLetFanClub wrote:
At least OP says what he's thinking instead of the rest of the sheep that try to conform.
User was warned for this post
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Was she born a boy and decided to become a girl, or was she born with unclear gender (xy genes, but otherwise unclear) and the doctors decided to make her a girl?
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I think transgender means that a person is born a certain sex, but with a brain of the opposite sex. Doesn't that mean scarlett was born with a male body but with a female mind?
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I think you misunderstand why men are dominant in starcraft, just because there are more male players at the highest level does not mean they have an advantage, the fact that they are male has no impact on their skill. The same cannot be said for conventional sports, the two situations are completely different you can't draw any meaningful comparisons in scenarios like this.
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Let's see, are men "dominant" in starcraft because they're inherently better at it, or is it because the game is marketed mostly towards men?
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correlation =/= causation.
gtfo.
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Starcraft isn't a physical sport, where males have such advantages, therefore gender shouldn't (largely doesn't) matter.
This was really discussed at length at Scarlett's breakout IGN performance...and the community seems to have accepted the situation.
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Um not really an issue at all. I remember them talking about this on "live and three" after IPL 4. And most players were like, thats cool, can she play? And in all the interviews everyone was like she can play the game. Its not like she is doing anythign illegal. I feel like this is a not an issue at all. Thanks for making it an issue.
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