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talismania
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States2364 Posts
August 13 2012 03:27 GMT
#16
/in

don't think I'll be as superactive as I was in mad men but I should meet my normal standards.
talismania
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States2364 Posts
August 21 2012 17:43 GMT
#174
On August 22 2012 02:06 VisceraEyes wrote:
Ohai I'm town you doubt it come and make my day bro. Reap the whirlwhind, etc. etc.


I really want you to be scum so I can find out if my activity tell on you is true or not :-) Need that third data point in the scum column.
talismania
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States2364 Posts
August 21 2012 17:51 GMT
#176
Dunno I recorded my own meta a couple games back and I found out I had the same thing as you (not as dramatic though) but I still couldn't make myself post more as scum.
talismania
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States2364 Posts
August 21 2012 20:03 GMT
#189
On August 22 2012 03:19 marvellosity wrote:
Random lynch sounds awesome. Especially if we don't look at past games where Palmar suggested random lynch.


What's this reference? Is this bureaucracy stuff? I didn't follow that one closely.
talismania
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States2364 Posts
August 21 2012 23:26 GMT
#248
I can't believe people are taking the random lynch thing seriously. Actually to be completely honest it feels like the people I recognize aren't taking it seriously but are goading on the ones I don't know who are. The suggestion felt to me initially like palmar was just juicing the thread. I can't believe he actually thinks it's good.
talismania
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States2364 Posts
August 21 2012 23:27 GMT
#251
I swear I don't remember it from pick your power redux though. He feels it's strong? Or does he do it as a dumb trap or something, which is how I initially read it.
talismania
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States2364 Posts
August 21 2012 23:35 GMT
#256
Hey people I don't know: who are you and how you play?

I don't follow the newbie games but it seems like you all know each other. Gimme your meta thoughts on each other. Right now I only really have a sense for how VE and marv play out of everyone in this game.
talismania
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States2364 Posts
August 21 2012 23:37 GMT
#257
On August 22 2012 08:32 VisceraEyes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 22 2012 08:31 Shady Sands wrote:
On August 22 2012 08:29 VisceraEyes wrote:
Well, Hapa's nothing to scoff at Lvdr - I take it you learned a valuable lesson that game?


I sure did. Never to trust a quicktopic thread again.


Pretty much all the hosts use QT...but pretty much all the hosts create them as hidden, too. :/

Yeah, that was a bad experience. I had a similar one in a concurrent game *glare talis*


<3 I knew you were scum before I found it!
talismania
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States2364 Posts
August 21 2012 23:43 GMT
#261
On August 22 2012 08:38 Shady Sands wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 22 2012 08:35 talismania wrote:
Hey people I don't know: who are you and how you play?

I don't follow the newbie games but it seems like you all know each other. Gimme your meta thoughts on each other. Right now I only really have a sense for how VE and marv play out of everyone in this game.


Are you asking for everyone's filters from prior games?


Lord no. I'm interested in just quick summaries of your observations of the people you've played with before.

For instance:

VE - as town tends to be spammy, more composed as scum (but got called out for it last game and is therefore at least theoretically capable of masking that). Very active.
marv - as both alignments is always reading the thread and reacting to it. prefers quick-paced discussion to longer posts but will make the big cases if he has to. has a rep as afearsome mafia player but I've personally never played against him, only with him as town. very unafraid of the spotlight.
talismania
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States2364 Posts
August 21 2012 23:50 GMT
#264
On August 22 2012 08:44 Obvious.660 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 22 2012 08:31 VisceraEyes wrote:
On August 22 2012 08:27 talismania wrote:
I swear I don't remember it from pick your power redux though. He feels it's strong? Or does he do it as a dumb trap or something, which is how I initially read it.


That's a mystery you'll have to take up with Palmar. He does it as a reaction to the game starting generally, and his purpose varies with game. Suffice to say he'll go through with it if we decide to do it, but no town ever has ever. I think, anyway.

Using this context regarding Palmar, what justification do you have for asking for me to vote for him if the only basis for his alignment is coming from a null tell considering he does this nearly every game. I'd prefer to hear it from him what his motive was exactly in proposing and endorsing a random lynch. If he isn't forthcoming about it today then I'll start with the voting.


Do you think VE seriously wants to lynch palmar? What do you think his motivations are for prodding you about it?
talismania
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States2364 Posts
August 21 2012 23:51 GMT
#265
Actually, VE do you really want to push palmar? I may be reading things completely wrong but I get the impression you're just using him as a tool to poke newbies with (no offense, newbies).
talismania
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States2364 Posts
August 22 2012 18:23 GMT
#413
upcaught!

VE I was with you on shady until he started going after kville. I thought the reasoning behind going for lurkers smelled like bs but the way he went after kville was genuine. like picking up on the fact that marv was out of kville's list is a townie trait and it all fits with what people say about him being a tunneler.
talismania
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States2364 Posts
August 22 2012 18:39 GMT
#418
On August 23 2012 03:26 Shady Sands wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 23 2012 03:23 talismania wrote:
upcaught!

VE I was with you on shady until he started going after kville. I thought the reasoning behind going for lurkers smelled like bs but the way he went after kville was genuine. like picking up on the fact that marv was out of kville's list is a townie trait and it all fits with what people say about him being a tunneler.


Thanks for the support... what's your read on KVille?


lean scum. I really like the marv thing you pointed out and the part where he threw up three names on a list without really saying why those names were there. I think he was mimicking palmar without realizing you can't just call someone suspicious without saying why.
talismania
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States2364 Posts
August 22 2012 20:22 GMT
#435
On August 23 2012 04:42 marvellosity wrote:
VE, I don't think Shady is a good lynch today.

Kville still hasn't done anything to show me he's town. talis is continuing his trend by leaning scum on someone without accompanying it with a vote.

One player that has come up for me is Lvdr. He says this:

Show nested quote +
On August 22 2012 09:18 Lvdr wrote:

In my past 2 games I've tended to be very controversial early d1 to attract suspicion.


followed by being extremely uncontroversial. See:

Show nested quote +
On August 22 2012 11:26 Lvdr wrote:
I've been actively reading the thread, but there is just not a lot a content so far. It seems most people are playing pretty conservatively so far, and there aren't really any big talking points (outside of the rando-lynch that I weighed in on)

As for lynch policy, I support lynching lurkers D1. Whether it is necessary or not, lynching lurkers is good for forcing activity, and seems to give a decent chance for catching mafia as well.

If the day was ending now (I think this is what you mean?) I think town would be screwed because there is very little to vote on.



continuing my trend of what? I never vote early D1. I'm not a fan of how my name keeps floating up for seemingly no reason.

He wants to be controversial, except there's nothing to talk about, and even when pressed he still wouldn't commit to any sort of read. Finally we have

Show nested quote +
On August 22 2012 22:49 Lvdr wrote:
@ Shady: You expect lurkers to come up with a case, yet you have only provided a random vote and a bandwagon/lurker vote.

Looks like scum wants the town to do their work for them.

##FOS Shady Sands


That's what it looks like indeed.

##Unvote
##Vote: Lvdr

talismania
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States2364 Posts
August 22 2012 20:23 GMT
#436
dear lord what happened there.

I think I typed in the quote:


"continuing my trend of what? I never vote early D1. I'm not a fan of how my name keeps floating up for seemingly no reason."
talismania
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States2364 Posts
August 22 2012 20:25 GMT
#440
On August 23 2012 05:00 marvellosity wrote:
VE, go read the first cycle of my game for homework.

doesn't give me a townread on shady but it stops me from having the scumread that you have.


what is this? Are you completely neutral on him? I can see being completely neutral on some other players in the game but he's stuck out so much it's hard not to classify him into one camp or the other.
talismania
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States2364 Posts
August 22 2012 20:27 GMT
#442
On August 23 2012 05:24 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 23 2012 05:23 talismania wrote:
dear lord what happened there.

I think I typed in the quote:


"continuing my trend of what? I never vote early D1. I'm not a fan of how my name keeps floating up for seemingly no reason."


Show nested quote +
On August 22 2012 23:47 marvellosity wrote:
I'm quite suspicious of talis; a lot of his posts have this... touchy-feely-careful feel to them. " Actually to be completely honest", "this suggestion felt to me", "which is how I initially read it", and

On August 22 2012 08:51 talismania wrote:
Actually, VE do you really want to push palmar? I may be reading things completely wrong but I get the impression you're just using him as a tool to poke newbies with (no offense, newbies).




intriguing. anyone else out there with posting mannerisms thjat have caught your attention?
talismania
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States2364 Posts
August 22 2012 21:22 GMT
#470
On August 23 2012 05:41 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 23 2012 05:25 talismania wrote:
On August 23 2012 05:00 marvellosity wrote:
VE, go read the first cycle of my game for homework.

doesn't give me a townread on shady but it stops me from having the scumread that you have.


what is this? Are you completely neutral on him? I can see being completely neutral on some other players in the game but he's stuck out so much it's hard not to classify him into one camp or the other.


I would lean town side of null, due to his activity levels and he was less controversial than he was as scum in XXIII. VE gives the scum-side well enough. It's why I want more time with him.

What do you make of Lvdr and Kville now he's posted his "I got home" post? I was expecting some scumhunting from Kville but instead only got a terribad defence. They're my two red reads at the moment.


I'm with you on kville because he has yet to explain why he found the people he listed suspicious. there should have been something in his head when he did that but he hasn't shared it.

Lvdr voting for VE in one post with extremely light support and then agreeing with him publicly two posts later on pg 23 is not typical scum play. Like you would do that as scum, maybe. I don't know about him.
talismania
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States2364 Posts
August 22 2012 21:30 GMT
#474
On August 23 2012 05:59 Shady Sands wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 23 2012 05:23 talismania wrote:
dear lord what happened there.

I think I typed in the quote:


"continuing my trend of what? I never vote early D1. I'm not a fan of how my name keeps floating up for seemingly no reason."


FYI, what are your top scumreads at the moment? Anyone deserving of an FoS or vote?


kville for reasons stated. djasldkfhlskad because his first post didn't sit well with me. too overcomposed, nothiung like the kind of posts he made pre-game. he was also more engaged pre-game than in the game. but he's strange to read because his top suspect changes every few posts and I don't know why. for some reason I was his top suspect, but it was never explained why that was the case, even though he at least posted some about obvious when he FoS'd him.
talismania
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States2364 Posts
August 22 2012 21:32 GMT
#475
On August 23 2012 06:26 Lvdr wrote:
People who have played with VE before, What do you think of his case against Shady?


VE is way more active now than he was in his last scum game. It's plausible that he's forcing himself to do so and I kind of wondered about that early on but he's managed to keep it up. If he's scum eventually he will start to drop off, even if he tries not to. Just how it goes for active players that are less so as scum.
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