• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EST 14:23
CET 20:23
KST 04:23
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Clem wins HomeStory Cup 283HomeStory Cup 28 - Info & Preview13Rongyi Cup S3 - Preview & Info3herO wins SC2 All-Star Invitational14SC2 All-Star Invitational: Tournament Preview5
Community News
Weekly Cups (Jan 26-Feb 1): herO, Clem, ByuN, Classic win2RSL Season 4 announced for March-April7Weekly Cups (Jan 19-25): Bunny, Trigger, MaxPax win3Weekly Cups (Jan 12-18): herO, MaxPax, Solar win0BSL Season 2025 - Full Overview and Conclusion8
StarCraft 2
General
Clem wins HomeStory Cup 28 HomeStory Cup 28 - Info & Preview Stellar Fest "01" Jersey Charity Auction StarCraft 2 Not at the Esports World Cup 2026 Weekly Cups (Jan 26-Feb 1): herO, Clem, ByuN, Classic win
Tourneys
HomeStory Cup 28 RSL Season 4 announced for March-April PIG STY FESTIVAL 7.0! (19 Feb - 1 Mar) StarCraft Evolution League (SC Evo Biweekly) $21,000 Rongyi Cup Season 3 announced (Jan 22-Feb 7)
Strategy
Custom Maps
[A] Starcraft Sound Mod
External Content
Mutation # 511 Temple of Rebirth The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 510 Safety Violation Mutation # 509 Doomsday Report
Brood War
General
Can someone share very abbreviated BW cliffnotes? 2024 BoxeR's birthday message Liquipedia.net NEEDS editors for Brood War BSL Season 21 - Complete Results Bleak Future After Failed ProGaming Career
Tourneys
Small VOD Thread 2.0 Escore Tournament StarCraft Season 1 KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 1 The Casual Games of the Week Thread
Strategy
Zealot bombing is no longer popular? Simple Questions, Simple Answers Current Meta Soma's 9 hatch build from ASL Game 2
Other Games
General Games
Battle Aces/David Kim RTS Megathread EVE Corporation Nintendo Switch Thread Path of Exile Mobile Legends: Bang Bang
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas Vanilla Mini Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread The Games Industry And ATVI Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread Canadian Politics Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
The herO Fan Club! The IdrA Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
[Manga] One Piece Anime Discussion Thread
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Quickbooks Payroll Service Official Guide Quickbooks Customer Service Official Guide
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Play, Watch, Drink: Esports …
TrAiDoS
My 2025 Magic: The Gathering…
DARKING
Life Update and thoughts.
FuDDx
How do archons sleep?
8882
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1816 users

Newbie Mini Mafia XXIV

Forum Index > TL Mafia
Post a Reply
1 2 3 4 5 6 7 Next All
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
August 12 2012 23:25 GMT
#25
/in
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
August 12 2012 23:41 GMT
#31
seeing as this is my first mafia game, how much should i prepare? i'm already planning on reading as many guides as i can but should i read through completed mafia games as well?
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
August 13 2012 00:09 GMT
#35
how long do these generally take to start
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
August 13 2012 00:14 GMT
#37
On August 13 2012 09:05 Solarsail wrote:
/in

About how many times per day is one expected to post?


from what i've read in the other games your post count is something everyone really pays attention to
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
August 14 2012 01:36 GMT
#70
in the rules where it says 'pms are not allowed in this game' does that mean we aren't allowed to send a tl pm to any other player? if so are there any other 'allowed' means of communication between 2 or more players outside of this thread?
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
August 14 2012 01:41 GMT
#72
ok thanks. that's what i assumed was true but i just wanted to confirm it so i dont accidentally break any rules or miss out on a part of the game that i was assuming was not allowed.
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
August 15 2012 00:55 GMT
#96
Does anyone have experience playing in a game where a serial killer was a possible role? If there did end up being a serial killer, how big a role did they play and how high would you rate the importance and achieveability of sniffing them out early? In other words, would it be a worthwhile use of the town's time and investigation to try to figure out who, if anyone, is the serial killer? I can see how it would be very important to find out who is SK early on, but I also can see how it might be way more difficult than figuring out who is mafia, and thus not a good use of time. One distinction between the serial killer and the mafia is that the mafia are in communication and will be working together while the serial killer is separated from both town and mafia. Any player who is suspected to be not of town affiliation could either be mafia or SK, so while in either case they are a good target for lynching, having knowledge of their actual role would be way more valuable than just an uninformed hit on a supposed non-town player.

If there isn't an SK, then this line of discussion is a complete waste of time and we would be doing the mafia's job for them, which is why I asked if anyone has experience in games with an SK so that we all can get a better idea of what the risk/reward anaylsis should be on determining whether or not and when to focus on a potential SK.

Concerning shady sand's post, this is my first game so I have no previous history to reference.
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
August 15 2012 01:11 GMT
#103
On August 15 2012 09:59 Shady Sands wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 15 2012 09:55 thrawn2112 wrote:
Does anyone have experience playing in a game where a serial killer was a possible role? If there did end up being a serial killer, how big a role did they play and how high would you rate the importance and achieveability of sniffing them out early? In other words, would it be a worthwhile use of the town's time and investigation to try to figure out who, if anyone, is the serial killer? I can see how it would be very important to find out who is SK early on, but I also can see how it might be way more difficult than figuring out who is mafia, and thus not a good use of time. One distinction between the serial killer and the mafia is that the mafia are in communication and will be working together while the serial killer is separated from both town and mafia. Any player who is suspected to be not of town affiliation could either be mafia or SK, so while in either case they are a good target for lynching, having knowledge of their actual role would be way more valuable than just an uninformed hit on a supposed non-town player.

If there isn't an SK, then this line of discussion is a complete waste of time and we would be doing the mafia's job for them, which is why I asked if anyone has experience in games with an SK so that we all can get a better idea of what the risk/reward anaylsis should be on determining whether or not and when to focus on a potential SK.

Concerning shady sand's post, this is my first game so I have no previous history to reference.


Why are you so worried about the SK? SK is a bigger threat to scum than to town.


I am not really worried, but am trying to learn from other people's experiences if there is any reason to worry. I thought I was pretty clear that I was undecided on the importance of SK, and that if SK is unimportant in D1 it's a complete waste of time to worry about it. My current opinion is that it is something to worry about, but not on D1. Therefore I'm not going to continue posting about it until something happens along the lines of way too many unexplained town deaths.
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
August 15 2012 01:32 GMT
#118
Most of Solarsail's posts so far have contained quite a bit of emotion which has made his points less articulate than they otherwise would have been. Solarsail, if you are in fact town then I'm sure all the other townies would greatly appreciate it if you weren't so quick to use profanities and typing in all caps, it distracts from whatever arguments are being made.
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
August 15 2012 01:41 GMT
#124
On August 15 2012 10:35 Shady Sands wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 15 2012 10:32 thrawn2112 wrote:
Most of Solarsail's posts so far have contained quite a bit of emotion which has made his points less articulate than they otherwise would have been. Solarsail, if you are in fact town then I'm sure all the other townies would greatly appreciate it if you weren't so quick to use profanities and typing in all caps, it distracts from whatever arguments are being made.


What's even more interesting that Solarsail didn't even try to defend himself from this accusation:

Show nested quote +
Only scum focus on trying to survive. Town focuses on scumhunting. Why would you devote your first post to trying to show participation?


Instead, he answered with sarcasm and an OMGUS vote.


Sorry for the bother, but could you describe what OMGUS means? It's one of the several expressions I see used in the mafia forums of which I have no idea what they mean.
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
August 15 2012 01:43 GMT
#126
On August 15 2012 10:41 Shady Sands wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 15 2012 10:41 thrawn2112 wrote:
On August 15 2012 10:35 Shady Sands wrote:
On August 15 2012 10:32 thrawn2112 wrote:
Most of Solarsail's posts so far have contained quite a bit of emotion which has made his points less articulate than they otherwise would have been. Solarsail, if you are in fact town then I'm sure all the other townies would greatly appreciate it if you weren't so quick to use profanities and typing in all caps, it distracts from whatever arguments are being made.


What's even more interesting that Solarsail didn't even try to defend himself from this accusation:

Only scum focus on trying to survive. Town focuses on scumhunting. Why would you devote your first post to trying to show participation?


Instead, he answered with sarcasm and an OMGUS vote.


Sorry for the bother, but could you describe what OMGUS means? It's one of the several expressions I see used in the mafia forums of which I have no idea what they mean.


http://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=OMGUS

Show nested quote +
OMGUS stands for "Oh My God, You Suck (for voting for me)!". it is sometimes used as a shorthand to indicate that you are voting for someone primarily because they voted for you.


wow thanks, amazing link
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
August 15 2012 01:47 GMT
#129
On August 15 2012 10:37 Shady Sands wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 15 2012 10:32 thrawn2112 wrote:
Most of Solarsail's posts so far have contained quite a bit of emotion which has made his points less articulate than they otherwise would have been. Solarsail, if you are in fact town then I'm sure all the other townies would greatly appreciate it if you weren't so quick to use profanities and typing in all caps, it distracts from whatever arguments are being made.


Quick question: If you've never played with Solarsail before, how would you know whether his points are less or more articulate than they could be?

Seconding your point on the profanities though.


I wouldn't know if they are more or less articulate than however he may have been in previous games, but for this purpose of this game it's making his posts a little unclear. Unclear could just mean unclear OR mafia, but the end result is that I pay more attention to his posts.
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
August 15 2012 02:09 GMT
#135
On August 15 2012 10:55 Solarsail wrote:
Show nested quote +


However, we should always strive for clarity and activeness. From my readings, these are the two master traits we must have if we want to win as townies. This being said, I will strike with great vengeance and furious anger those who attempt to poison and destroy these virtues!


Hey Shady this guy is VERY SUSPICIOUS for saying exactly the same as me and I think you should get right on questioning him into the ground.


What did you two say that was "exactly the same?"
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
August 15 2012 02:18 GMT
#137
On August 15 2012 10:35 Shady Sands wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 15 2012 10:32 thrawn2112 wrote:
Most of Solarsail's posts so far have contained quite a bit of emotion which has made his points less articulate than they otherwise would have been. Solarsail, if you are in fact town then I'm sure all the other townies would greatly appreciate it if you weren't so quick to use profanities and typing in all caps, it distracts from whatever arguments are being made.


What's even more interesting that Solarsail didn't even try to defend himself from this accusation:

Show nested quote +
Only scum focus on trying to survive. Town focuses on scumhunting. Why would you devote your first post to trying to show participation?


Instead, he answered with sarcasm and an OMGUS vote.


Most of the discussion right now is about solarsail. I don't think there's anything wrong with this because so far his posts haven't seemed very useful but we have still yet to hear from several players. He could easily be town and just reacting to everyone immediately jumping on his case as soon as the game starts. In that case it would be easy for the mafia players to roll in later and pile more suspicion on solar and therefore away from themselves.

As far as I could see most of the drama was based on your post asking why he is devoting his first post to appearing as town rather than use it to scumhunt. I think it's worthwhile pointing out that at the time of his original posting there were only a few D1 posts so far and not much to scumhunt on. I think right now we are still in a waiting game, people that haven't spoken up yet need to!
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
August 15 2012 02:43 GMT
#142
Shady, can you explain your reasoning for initially jumping all over solar? It could be that you, as mafia, know he is town and are taking advantage of solar's emotional reactions by drawing them out even further and immediately sidetracking everyone onto solar's case.

Still waiting for several people to post up... I'm gonna take a break for an hour or so and I will join back in once more people have posted.
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
August 15 2012 02:44 GMT
#143
solar you really need to clear up your post formatting, especially concerning the quote feature
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
August 15 2012 02:47 GMT
#146
On August 15 2012 11:45 Solarsail wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 15 2012 11:44 thrawn2112 wrote:
solar you really need to clear up your post formatting, especially concerning the quote feature


can't because of no edit rule


obviously, but in the future maybe?
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
August 15 2012 03:16 GMT
#164
On August 15 2012 11:59 YourHarry wrote:
@Z-boson, posting filters is pretty easy. Why not.

@Shady Sands. You are accusing Solarsail of being hostile? You think scums are more likely to respond with hostility?

Thrawn on the other hand is busy posting fluffs and WIFOM statement like "It could be that you, as mafia, know he is town and are taking advantage of solar's emotional reactions by drawing them out even further and immediately sidetracking everyone onto solar's case."

##Vote Thrawn


My last post might have seemed to be quite a stretch, but I am still of the opinion that solar's posts are somewhat likely to be emotional overreactions rather than scummy. Based on that opinion it's not a stretch to be suspicious of shady's motives and thus I made that post.

All that being said, the more solar posts the more wary I am of him. All of his posts are sarcastic, attempts at humor, or name calling. Solar, you really need to make your posts more about content than your emotions so that if you are truly town we will be able to get a better read on you.

Shady, the main focus of your attention on solar is based on this:

Imagine how scared of posting you would be if you'd signed up for your first game and rolled Mafia. Your posts would be short, infrequent, and not hold any information that disagrees with the general direction so as not to stand out.


I'm not sure I'm getting why you think this is scummy, could you explain? His posts since that point are what caused me to be suspicious of him, but I never quite understood the reasoning behind your initial interrogation.
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
August 15 2012 03:36 GMT
#174
On August 15 2012 12:19 Shady Sands wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 15 2012 12:16 thrawn2112 wrote:
On August 15 2012 11:59 YourHarry wrote:
@Z-boson, posting filters is pretty easy. Why not.

@Shady Sands. You are accusing Solarsail of being hostile? You think scums are more likely to respond with hostility?

Thrawn on the other hand is busy posting fluffs and WIFOM statement like "It could be that you, as mafia, know he is town and are taking advantage of solar's emotional reactions by drawing them out even further and immediately sidetracking everyone onto solar's case."

##Vote Thrawn


My last post might have seemed to be quite a stretch, but I am still of the opinion that solar's posts are somewhat likely to be emotional overreactions rather than scummy. Based on that opinion it's not a stretch to be suspicious of shady's motives and thus I made that post.

All that being said, the more solar posts the more wary I am of him. All of his posts are sarcastic, attempts at humor, or name calling. Solar, you really need to make your posts more about content than your emotions so that if you are truly town we will be able to get a better read on you.

Shady, the main focus of your attention on solar is based on this:

Imagine how scared of posting you would be if you'd signed up for your first game and rolled Mafia. Your posts would be short, infrequent, and not hold any information that disagrees with the general direction so as not to stand out.


I'm not sure I'm getting why you think this is scummy, could you explain? His posts since that point are what caused me to be suspicious of him, but I never quite understood the reasoning behind your initial interrogation.


Not to repeat myself, but here's the reasoning:

And it didn't make sense to me. Why would Solar make this post if he's town? It's not pro-town to post on which style a scum might or might be playing. Then I read his post in context of the first post that stutters made, and it seemed like Solar is trying to soft accuse stutters--because stutters post was short, and didn't hold any information that disagrees with the general direction (as telling people to read a guide is about as plain as someone can get.)

The second possibility here, aside from soft-accusing stutters, is that Solar is trying to look participatory. He states this himself, later. Why would a townie try to look participatory from his first post onwards? No one has accused Solar of anything yet, so why the desire to look like he's contributing (as opposed to actually saying something of substance instead of guessing at what the scum must be feeling?)

Both these possibilities lead to a scum Solarsail.


OK, I understand your case now. Stutters made his very first post of the game, which was somewhat short and linked to a post giving advice on d1 scumhunting, advice that is generally held to be useful. Solar then made a post saying that yeah, policy is cool, but we should be more more careful, and then he said to watch out for short posts that go along with the current majority opinion. Therefore your case is that solar was trying to soft accuse stutters based off the post that stutters had just made.

I definitely see the argument now, and seeing as I was previously suspicious of solar because of his follow up posts, it leads me to think I should be even more suspicious of him now. However I didnt see solar's soft accusation as a possiblity until you pointed it out after the fact, and suspicion of a soft accusation is hardly good evidence that he should be lynched especially when there has been so little discussion so far so I am not sold on your case against him.


On August 15 2012 12:24 YourHarry wrote:
Never mind. I am confident Solarsail is town. Move on.

##Unvote


That came out of nowhere.... please explain?
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
August 15 2012 04:52 GMT
#187
YourHarry, who do you find most scummy at this exact point in time?
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
1 2 3 4 5 6 7 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 4h 37m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
UpATreeSC 121
BRAT_OK 116
JuggernautJason109
SpeCial 66
StarCraft: Brood War
Shuttle 478
Larva 300
Hyuk 198
Dewaltoss 198
Mini 159
Soulkey 135
actioN 103
910 17
Dota 2
qojqva2058
League of Legends
C9.Mang0117
Counter-Strike
pashabiceps2742
fl0m2029
byalli527
ptr_tv96
Super Smash Bros
Mew2King198
Heroes of the Storm
Liquid`Hasu289
Khaldor227
MindelVK24
Other Games
FrodaN1910
ceh9448
Trikslyr50
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick1136
BasetradeTV23
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 17 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• StrangeGG 71
• intothetv
• IndyKCrew
• sooper7s
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• Migwel
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Kozan
StarCraft: Brood War
• blackmanpl 35
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
• BSLYoutube
Dota 2
• WagamamaTV230
League of Legends
• Nemesis4454
• imaqtpie2126
• TFBlade1525
• Shiphtur396
Upcoming Events
Replay Cast
4h 37m
Big Brain Bouts
21h 37m
goblin vs Kelazhur
TriGGeR vs Krystianer
Replay Cast
1d 4h
RongYI Cup
1d 15h
herO vs Maru
Replay Cast
2 days
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
2 days
Replay Cast
3 days
Wardi Open
3 days
Monday Night Weeklies
3 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
4 days
[ Show More ]
The PondCast
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2026-02-04
HSC XXVIII
Underdog Cup #3

Ongoing

CSL 2025 WINTER (S19)
KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 1
Acropolis #4 - TS4
Rongyi Cup S3
Nations Cup 2026
IEM Kraków 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter Qual
eXTREMESLAND 2025
SL Budapest Major 2025
ESL Impact League Season 8

Upcoming

Escore Tournament S1: W7
Escore Tournament S1: W8
Acropolis #4
IPSL Spring 2026
HSC XXIX
uThermal 2v2 2026 Main Event
Bellum Gens Elite Stara Zagora 2026
RSL Revival: Season 4
LiuLi Cup: 2025 Grand Finals
FISSURE Playground #3
IEM Rio 2026
PGL Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 1
BLAST Open Spring 2026
ESL Pro League Season 23
ESL Pro League Season 23
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.