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JingleHell
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On August 20 2012 06:11 strongandbig wrote: I put flavor in my pm! ppl who didn't are probably lame. Mine doesn't have full flavor text, but the role itself is already the awesome flavor equivalent of the best meal you've ever eaten. | ||
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Ignoring the part where you're not synonymous with we, I can think of other reasons to lynch Grush, like the fact that it reduces the number of posts that sound like they were made by Grush. Which is a benefit in and of itself. Do you have a candidate to suggest? Or are you stifling discussion for a reason that isn't scummy? | ||
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On August 20 2012 13:01 Drazerk wrote: I hate the word meta and everything assosiated with it you don't really have a real case on him and I am challenging you to present one based on what has already been posted not what he may do because he is grush He's probably going to be replaced / killed anyhow so there isn't a point discussing him until we know whats happening My case on grush is simple. If he's scum, we want him dead. If he's town, he's not exactly a candidate for most productive. Leaving him alive makes him a liability, making him dead makes him dead. If we don't have a better target, I'm more than happy to go with that. If you hate meta, how do you feel about analyzing motive of a post, since that's not purely based in "what has already been posted"? Are you saying we should only lynch people who jump up and down screaming that they're scum? | ||
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On August 21 2012 07:17 Mementoss wrote: Wat. Where? I haven't seen anything that could be classified as "actual discussion" of scum candidates. Also scum claim is almost as thrown around of a term as meta. Both useless I've seen meta used rather effectively. Ask anyone who was in Mad Men how Marv knew to shred me after coaching/obsing all my newbie games. There were a few things that could be built into a case throughout the course of things, but I wasn't exactly lynch target #1 until Marv noticed my play was wrong. As far as I'm concerned, people who dismiss the "softer" forms of evidence (it's all circumstantial anyways) out of hand bear some watching. | ||
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On August 21 2012 09:43 HiroPro wrote: imallinson is scum. He brings up the point that people aren't thinking "outside the box" when it comes to roles and spends most of his time discussing other things related to roles. However, later he says that day 1 role talk isn't helpful in finding scum. His biggest thing about the grush lynch isn't whether or not grush is scum, but what kind of information can be gotten from the lynch. Additionally, look at how apologetic and unsure his posting is. He's practically scared of saying anything. ##Vote imallinson Strongly concur. I was planning to bring up that exact point when I saw it, but you got there first. Same vote going in the vote thread. | ||
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On August 22 2012 02:13 Mr. Wiggles wrote: If no one claims that shot within the next 5 minutes, I'm going to treat it as a scum shot, and Meowth becomes an instant lynch/shot. You trying to hunt KP roles? | ||
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Anyways, I'm not comfortable with the people looking at VE because he's playing differently. He took a LOT of crap in Mad Men for his play, some based on meta. If a lot of people want him to play differently, and he's tired of being looked at the way he is, he might just try to play differently. I still like the idea of lynching Grush in absence of real reads, but maybe that's just a combination of me being vindictive and him being Grush. If we have a better target, obviously that would nullify it anyways. | ||
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You're trying to answer for my actions, you're saying it's scummy to want to policy lynch a useless poster (you), when I actually just don't want to read your posts. This game is all about reading intentions. Sometimes that leads to a defense. Tough luck. | ||
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How have I not answered? You think I'm scum because I want you gone... + Show Spoiler + ...explaining why I want you gone is all the answer needed, right? And if an honest evaluation of your play seems insulting, there's nothing anti-town about wanting you dead. Hence, not scummy. You deserve (and will receive) no further explanation unless you can make a case. | ||
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On August 23 2012 01:33 Mattchew wrote: i still think dirk is scum yes. Also, i was enhancing my read of VE, which I find/found to be important in this game also, you are town, good job You seem awfully convinced for this early in the game. Where you getting the information? | ||
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On August 23 2012 02:38 Mattchew wrote: also, you act like things can't change my reads. Does anyone else think this post is hella scummy, and a cop out for not scum hunting? How is asking you to explain a possible town motivation for something that's generally scummy "a cop out for not scum hunting"? | ||
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On August 21 2012 08:44 Mattchew wrote: Bugs and VE seem to either be lacking time (no read) or care (scum) Still ok with lynching Draz Speaking of not scum hunting... also, accusing someone of no reads when this is his most substantial post in the thread at the time is laughable. On August 21 2012 08:50 Mattchew wrote: cause you haven't sunk your teeth into a real candidate with reason yet, you haven't picked a fight, you also havent explained why you havent done the previously mentioned things. you usually do atleast 1 of these things as town He wants VE to pick a fight, which is generally not good for town, and he's not sinking his teeth into anyone either. Oh. Tunneling the piss out of Drazerk, too. Whining about a vote on him, fits the trend of non-content posting. On August 22 2012 00:34 Mattchew wrote: VE what do you think of bugs and allinson Starting to see a trend. Minimal content, wanting to sheep people. Usually scummy to want someone else to lead on cases. On August 22 2012 01:13 Mattchew wrote: ##vote dirkzor I like this wagon This doesn't need much talking about. On August 23 2012 01:09 Mattchew wrote: try and get me lynched. SnB what do you think of me? More wanting to sheep and hide behind other players. On August 23 2012 01:33 Mattchew wrote: i still think dirk is scum yes. Also, i was enhancing my read of VE, which I find/found to be important in this game also, you are town, good job Very early assertion of "definite town" on someone, which in this case would require information townies don't have. He claims it's based on other play, but I'd need confirmation of that from someone who knows it. On August 23 2012 02:38 Mattchew wrote: also, you act like things can't change my reads. Does anyone else think this post is hella scummy, and a cop out for not scum hunting? Weak OMGUS finger-point at me that doesn't even make sense under the circumstances considering my "cop out" was to ask him why he did something that's generally scummy. | ||
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On August 23 2012 03:06 Toadesstern wrote: Could be something like AC. Remember that game had Batman, Catwoman the Joker and whoever was the 4th guy. Batman had to kill the Joker, Catwoman had to kill the other guy, maybe there's 3rd parties who have to kill certain pokemon rather than having the usual wincons. Maybe we've got something like we had in holyroman with Igrok. He was 3rd party and had to kill everyone who had additional voting-power. Anyone claiming anything without a second of a thought should be considered mafia and so should people asking for claims right now. We don't know what's out there unnless of course you have more insight on that matter Jinglehell? Why would I have more insight on roles, Toad? I assume that's what you meant under the circumstances? | ||
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On August 23 2012 05:43 Toadesstern wrote: the fact that he's not even willing to use his ability because he's to scared. If you have a read on someone you're not scared because you think you're right in the first place. If it wouldn't be that way you wouldn't consider it a read, therefore you're not scared unless you have a reason to be scared. You could be scared like crazy in a Lylo situation for example, or you could be scared that people will want to lynch you after killing a townie but that's only possible with confirmation bias because as mentioned if you truely consider someone to be mafia you think he's mafia. If you're mafia yourself you know the guy in question is town and therefore you're obviously scared. I have never heard of a vig, a DT a medic or something else say he's too scared to use his ability unless it's a one-time ability but in that scenario it's not being scared but taking chances because you want to get the best possible result out of your one shot. He's overly defensive, he's trying to get me mad for the purpose of getting me mad and nothing else and he just acknowledged that he's scared like shit even though he keeps on telling everyone I'm his #1 read and I'm like 100% certain mafia. If that's really the case why is he scared? He's making up bullshit and from time to time his honest opinions are shining through because he knows he's going to be wrong on me. That's why he's scared. Oooh. I like this reasoning. You had me a bit nervous in Mad Men, (I actually wanted you dead before you were confirmed) so I like it. Any thoughts on my trek through Mattchew's filter, by the way? I wouldn't want to be accused of failing to follow up on a read later, or some such nonsense, and it's getting buried. | ||
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