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talismania
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talismania
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1) Mason is kind of worthless for town and at face value is little different than a vanilla townie. --A normal pair of masons have the benefit of knowing that one person is definitively town, and being able to claim that later. There is no such guarantee in this game. It's just like posting in the thread with someone except without anyone else seeing it, plus they're going to be extra suspicious of you. Of course you can glean a lot of information just by talking as well, which is a plus regardless. 2) Mason is kind of a worthless role for scum. --A scum mason is an annoying role to play. Do you pick townies, a scumbuddy, etc. What do you say to whom you buddy, each day? Seems fraught. 3) One interesting point is that if there is a town mason, there's likely a scum mason. Given the setup description, I find it hard to believe in fact that this would not be the case. This makes the role doubly poisonous/useless for scum. As it stands now, there are 5 scum and 19 townies (25%). If all the masons claim, and scum claims with them, I'm betting it's closer to 50/50 ratio. Maybe 2 town, 2 scum. That's shit for scum, so they won't want to claim. Except that they might think if they don't claim those that do are going to get too much town cred and yadda yadda. 4) So why not have them claim? Sounds fine to me but I don't think it's necessary either. HOWEVER 5) If you are masoned for the day - you MUST claim. There is no reason not to claim that. And save your logs and communications, because that shit needs to end up in the thread eventually. | ||
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talismania
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On August 03 2012 11:32 wherebugsgo wrote: I'm town. for that matter I'm Roger fucking Sterling, so suck my dick. oh man I hope bc didn't link role names and actual roles. kinda bet he did though | ||
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1) townie masons aren't much more useful to town than VTs are. I mean of course they are, it's just that if one claimed it's not like scum are going to be "yep gotta kill that guy now". Obviously the best part of their role is their ability to get information. That's what your role would be for. Talking to one person, grilling them for their thoughts, etc. How responsive are they, how carefully composed or not are their answers, that sort of jazz. All good info and the whole point of the role. 2) I think marvellosity playing scum mason would do great. I think most other players would suck balls at it. 3) Let's say 10 masons claim. Ok you have a point. Let's say 4 do. That's gotta be at least 3 town 1 scum, if not 2-2. 4 - 0 either way is silly. And frankly I think it's easier to find one out four than to find 5 out of 19 at the beginning. 4) What I think is that they can either claim or not claim and it doesn't really matter. They're going to be picking one player a day. Word is going to get out eventually. 5) What reasons can you think of not to claim that? Like, at all? You just say "Someone mason'd me." | ||
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+ Show Spoiler + Yo what? Of course you should claim if someone masons you. Mason isn't mason this game, your whole post with references to other games makes it seem like you think it's as powerful as normal. Masons aren't masons. They're interviewers or something. Claiming you're masond' just says "yo I was mason'd and I have a message log with another player". It's essentially having access to extra posts from someone, which means more for the thread to chew on when the time is right to share those logs. That's information. That's good. Your objection to it is weird - because it might be giving scum away that you're a town read of someone? Ok ok first off that's just silly. You and I have both been scum together and that sort of thing doesn't really factor in to night kill decisions. I don't think we ever talked about who town thinks is townie. We were more interested in who we could get lynched. Also what lazermanguy said. Secondly I don't understand your logic in getting there. town masons, if you're out there and reading this: Don't pick someone you think is really town and want to bounce your ideas off of. That's just silly as hell. Pick someone you're unsure of, so you get the chance to pick their brains in private. Or pick someone you think is scum, for the same reason. Your post also makes reference to people getting mason'd being scared of being influenced. WHAT. Who the hell in this game is actually scared of being influenced by someone that masons you? I know you aren't because I know you aren't. Show me someone who is. | ||
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(again) also, what do you think of toad and VE? | ||
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On August 04 2012 00:11 Toadesstern wrote: highly depends on wether or not some people are trolling on purpose to look like stupid idiots to fish for reactions. that's fine, give me the different scenarios in your mind | ||
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On August 03 2012 23:53 Erandorr wrote: I wanted to see if he did it again, considering I know my alignment. Its a completely anti town move . Give me one reason why not to hammer wbg right now please. can you walk me through your thought process a little more? It seemed like you were against masons being in public given your agreement with toad. So why did you risk outing yourself? | ||
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On August 04 2012 00:39 talismania wrote: can you walk me through your thought process a little more? It seemed like you were against masons being in public given your agreement with toad. So why did you risk outing yourself? | ||
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On August 04 2012 01:08 VisceraEyes wrote: -.- Yes, I am a mason, and no, I didn't give Bugs the okay to out me. Toad you're insane bro. If you'll read my post again, I was AGAINST masons claiming, prplhz asked me what the point of them claiming was and I explained it to him. I'm screaming at bugs in a PM, I'll be back in a bit. Your thought process to please - why bugs etc. | ||
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+ Show Spoiler + I put things in spoiler tags when they aren't pertinent to the most important stuff happening in the thread. my reply to toad was about theory of the game setup, when at that point we already had actual game shit happening that was more important (wbg calling out VE). | ||
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On August 04 2012 04:43 slOosh wrote: First, could you stop spoilering stuff unless they are big posts? Second, what is your actual read on Toad then? Did your discussion with him give you any insights? But I was being cute! My actual read of toad is "ugh". If I had to pick I'd say scum. It seems weird that I got the all red letter designation but I honestly can't remember sitting here now why. I think it was just because he disagreed with me about my thoughts on the masons. Oh and also it was that my post wasn't like my early game post in pyp et al. Which is true it wasn't but I was scum that game and I've kinda gotten lynched in two games since then for doing the same shit (and toad should know that from hosting ssb64) so no crazy plans or ideas from me this time. But I think that honestly you could say I was scum just as much as you could say VE was scum, yet toad has VE in alternating letters and me in all red. _________________ ps can people post their character names? I just want to satisfy my curiosity to find out who is in the game - I know that they don't mean anything since I'm VT with Henry Francis. Although I will LOL if scum has Ted Chaugh and Putnam, Powell, Lowe etc. And if WBG is veteran since Roger comes back from a heart attack in the first season. | ||
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