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chaoser
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States5541 Posts
May 27 2012 20:57 GMT
#8
I don't care /in
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chaoser
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States5541 Posts
June 05 2012 00:52 GMT
#26
On June 05 2012 08:15 Ace wrote:
Will update the OP with changes later, but the game will start at night.

Also I hosted this game in real life last weekend - it is SO freaking insane with people that just dont give a ****!


Add in coag and we can probably recreate the same insanity
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chaoser
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States5541 Posts
June 06 2012 19:44 GMT
#62
i'mma shoot RoL if I can
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chaoser
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States5541 Posts
June 08 2012 15:54 GMT
#76
how has this game not started yet lol
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chaoser
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States5541 Posts
June 11 2012 16:03 GMT
#175
@gonzaw I'm surprised you're asking millers to claim and then shoot day 1 when it's just as good to have millers claim day 1 and then you yourself volunteer to shoot day 1.

Since you yourself did not volunteer immediately to shoot on day 1, I was wondering if you'd like to start us off by shooting on day 1.

In this game, to find 3 out of the 4 mafia, I feel like it's pretty easy. We just force the person we think is the most suspicious to shoot the person THEY think is most suspicious. If they can shoot, they are not one of the three regular mafia. The only anti-town that gets out of this is the GF and the SK but they should be easy to narrow down when we combine this method with regular analysis.

If they can't shoot, then they are either mafia or blue.

In terms of blue roles, I actually don't think they matter that much this game and I'd totally be ok with any blue role that gets suspected and put on the spot to shoot to just claim. RB is nerfed this game to only be able to roleblock the same person on every other night so that means mafia can't just nilly willy claim blue and then when they don't die to mafia gunfire for a few days, get off scott free.

So basically it goes discussion--->decide who is "most suspicious"--->force them to shoot who THEY think is most suspicious--->if they can't shoot, they will be forced to claim--->we then decide if the claim is valid or not--->shoot if we don't think the claim is valid.
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chaoser
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States5541 Posts
June 11 2012 16:21 GMT
#179
Nice plan, the 3 scum get 3 free town deaths with this.


How do scum get three free deaths?
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chaoser
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States5541 Posts
June 11 2012 16:30 GMT
#182
On June 12 2012 01:20 rastaban wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 12 2012 01:05 Toadesstern wrote:
On June 12 2012 00:38 marvellosity wrote:
On June 12 2012 00:35 Toadesstern wrote:
On June 12 2012 00:22 MrZentor wrote:
With that in mind let me categorically state I will shoot anyone claiming miller after our starting phase


Is anybody else bothered by this?

There's no reason you should "veto" a decision because you can shoot.

Regardless of the topic, it stunts discussion, which is really scummy.

the point is that every mafia can "just" claim miller AFTER someone got a red check on them (obviously not takling about d1) and therefore we can't allow people to just claim miller if in danger because that could be a legit way for mafia to get out of the way and make them look townish.


Eh... even if we didn't agree for millers to claim day 1, then doing so hardly makes someone look townish. That's what you look at their play for, to see if it makes sense or not.

exactly. what I'm saying with my post before that. We need to play normal instead of focussing on millers because frankly with framers and gfs running around I don't see an easy way to figure them out (easy = not normal analysis, but instead something that works right off the bat). So what I meant and is that a miller claim afterwards should not be a reason to consider someone a townie. If you make someone claim he obviously got pressure and therefore you considered lynching / shooting him prior to the claim. A miller claim should not be treated as alignment indicating either way, which results in shooting them if you thought he's mafia prior to the claim.


Exactly, Millers can claim now (what I prefer as it gives us information now), or they can not claim (as Toad prefers as the confusion may stifle real discussion). Later in the game someone we are suspicious of is checked by a cop and shows red, he then claims miller. He still gets shot as the time for claiming has past and it gives mafia an out.

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On June 12 2012 01:10 marvellosity wrote:
On June 12 2012 01:03 chaoser wrote:
@gonzaw I'm surprised you're asking millers to claim and then shoot day 1 when it's just as good to have millers claim day 1 and then you yourself volunteer to shoot day 1.

Since you yourself did not volunteer immediately to shoot on day 1, I was wondering if you'd like to start us off by shooting on day 1.

In this game, to find 3 out of the 4 mafia, I feel like it's pretty easy. We just force the person we think is the most suspicious to shoot the person THEY think is most suspicious. If they can shoot, they are not one of the three regular mafia. The only anti-town that gets out of this is the GF and the SK but they should be easy to narrow down when we combine this method with regular analysis.

If they can't shoot, then they are either mafia or blue.

In terms of blue roles, I actually don't think they matter that much this game and I'd totally be ok with any blue role that gets suspected and put on the spot to shoot to just claim. RB is nerfed this game to only be able to roleblock the same person on every other night so that means mafia can't just nilly willy claim blue and then when they don't die to mafia gunfire for a few days, get off scott free.

So basically it goes discussion--->decide who is "most suspicious"--->force them to shoot who THEY think is most suspicious--->if they can't shoot, they will be forced to claim--->we then decide if the claim is valid or not--->shoot if we don't think the claim is valid.


Nice plan, the 3 scum get 3 free town deaths with this.

Scum (except GF) can't shoot so no they don't. However I don't know about the plan of having them shoot whoever they think is most suspicious. If they are town and are in that spot they have most likely been playing sub-optimally (the reason they are in this spot to begin with) so having them make the call seems like it could wind up with us losing more obvious townies. Maybe they shoot the second most suspicious person. Its like a duel where the 2 most suspicious people have to shoot it out and if one is mafia 3/4ths of the time he doesn't have a gun to shoot back with.


I was actually thinking of this too but I ended up picking the "they get to shoot who they think is most suspicious" cause I didn't want it to be all town controlled and that person has no control whatsoever. From playing in Liar's Game, it was very easy to see that people played extremely sub-optimally when people felt left out or not in control. Also I felt like if the person was allowed to shoot the person they felt was most suspicious, if they hit mafia, then they get a retrieval and if they hit a townie, they would be more likely to re-evaluate their actions and thoughts up to that point and thus return as a better "player" the following cycle.
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chaoser
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States5541 Posts
June 11 2012 16:32 GMT
#183
reprieve, not retrieval*
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chaoser
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States5541 Posts
June 11 2012 16:54 GMT
#187
On June 12 2012 01:38 VisceraEyes wrote:
The scum GF is going to have a lot of power. He can shoot teammates for towncred if they get a big enough lead.

Anyway, this setup speculation is fun and everything, but I'm mostly interested to hear from people who haven't posted yet.


That's why we take everything with a grain of salt? Or do you guys just not re-evaluate ever as game goes on lol? There's no such thing as absolute towncred; If someone is killing it and destroying mafia left and right and yet still making it to endgame, you can be sure, when stacked up with the other remaining survivors, that he's mafia.
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chaoser
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States5541 Posts
June 11 2012 17:26 GMT
#193
( also why did chaos threaten to shoot a claimed miller when like 90% of thread is indicating that they approve of the plan on some level??) that just doesnt feel right.


When did I say this?
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chaoser
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States5541 Posts
June 11 2012 19:01 GMT
#213
I find one problem with having the most suspicious player shoot the guy he thinks is scum and not the 2nd most suspicious player:
If that player is the Godfather he will easily shoot a townie.


This is not that big a problem since they would have to justify their shot. Once again, by forcing them to make their own shot ,they have respectability and we can call them out of it. If it's town dictated, we'd have to all agree on not only someone that's the most suspicious but also on a second most suspicious person. If they flip town, then we can't later go back and see, oh, this might be GF-motivated kill. I'd rather have a GF shoot a townie and then have to justify it than a GF shoot a town pushed townie and then he doesn't have to justify it.
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chaoser
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States5541 Posts
June 11 2012 19:37 GMT
#224
Isn't it Night 0? As in mafia get to do night kills if they want to? why did RoL claim miller already...
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chaoser
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States5541 Posts
June 12 2012 04:15 GMT
#303
gonzaw, if you want to dispell the suspicions on you, I'd suggest you just shoot
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chaoser
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States5541 Posts
June 12 2012 04:18 GMT
#305
or mafia didn't shoot
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chaoser
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States5541 Posts
June 12 2012 04:24 GMT
#310
This is a Dirty South set-up also known as a day killing game. The way this works is that almost everyone can kill another player in the game by typing ##kill(##Kill): player in the thread. If possible I will kill that player and the game moves on to night phase. There are No Lynches in this format so there is no voting.


Day ends when someone kills. If SK didn't kill at night, he is forced to shoot in the morning or else he is modkilled. His shot will also end the day. So, as you can see, SK WANTS to shoot at night unless he knows he will be forced by town to shoot the next morning.
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chaoser
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States5541 Posts
June 12 2012 04:26 GMT
#313
On June 12 2012 13:21 MrZentor wrote:
The post says that the days ends when the first person is killed.

Couldn't we just keep talking but not kill anybody for a few days?


Pretty sure

1) We'll run out of things to say or just go in circles
2) Ace will probably put a limit on like 48 hours and then we just "no shot" and move straight to night
3) Someone will probably get trigger happy and shoot anyway.

I want gonzaw to shoot. We already had 24 hours of discussion since night 0 happened, we've got our suspicions. Let's go gonzaw, chop chop.
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chaoser
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States5541 Posts
June 12 2012 04:31 GMT
#320
(Unless you want him to shoot right away as a proof of his possible towny-ness, or at least gun ownership, while effectively modkilling the SK if we've understood right how the role works?)


Bingo. I think he's scummy and also unlikely to be SK and so why not kill two birds with one stone.
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chaoser
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States5541 Posts
June 12 2012 04:33 GMT
#321
I'm headed to bed aso I'll be back early tomorrow to follow up
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chaoser
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States5541 Posts
June 12 2012 04:49 GMT
#326
On June 12 2012 13:36 wherebugsgo wrote:
If we don't have a target for gonzaw to shoot by, say, the 20 hour mark into the day, I say we should shoot gonzaw. I volunteer to be that person.

If anyone shoots before that time I say we kill them tomorrow.






I am down with this. Though I think it's better if while we concurrently try to find a target for him that he also tries to find a target for himself so that if we can't find him a target, he will atleast have put out a "case" against someone that we can then analyze and shit.
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chaoser
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States5541 Posts
June 12 2012 15:24 GMT
#419
On June 13 2012 00:01 MrZentor wrote:
Do you agree that Chaoser is scummy?


I'm ok with gonzaw shooting me right now.
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