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On May 27 2012 22:58 supersoft wrote: PFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF TOADESSTERN :D my thoughts exactly whenever I read his posts LOL I come across first Toad post = oh god wtf | ||
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I have a scumread on him based on his only two posts in the thread. Both of his posts are massive walls of summarizing nothing. He also asks | ||
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He asks a bunch of people to state who they're going to vote and stuff but he doesn't vote himself. | ||
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Going to assume that means a jailor protected me from a scum hit. I'm also going to assume it means that lurker I called out is probably scum. | ||
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We kill gambit man today. He ninja voted ET yesterday and he's said nothing. Eat shit and die, scum. ##vote Gambitx32 | ||
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If we had no vigis and all 6 scum lurked, by your plan none of them would ever die. Can't have that, now can we? | ||
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The fuck kind of defense is that? | ||
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On May 30 2012 10:27 austinmcc wrote: The nonexistent kind? I'm not defending him. I bring up the vote because: You brought up the no-vote in your initial 2 posts when you mentioned him. To the extent that the no-vote factored into your read, the read was off, but you may have been more focused on the crappy posting, in which case the no-vote is entirely irrelevant. So first of all, you're insinuating my read was off with no basis for that. We don't know what Gambit is. Do you know his alignment? Why would you suggest my read is off in this case with such off-hand confidence? Secondly, my mention of Gambit's vote had nothing to do with whether or not it was scummy. I asked because I didn't see his vote in this thread. A nonvoter results in a modkill or a warning. I had forgotten that there is a separate voting thread. When I looked there I discovered he voted ET. That's called a ninja vote, where you vote in the voting thread but you don't announce your vote or your reasoning in the main thread. That's far scummier than actually not voting, as RoL from Storm proved. Someone who ninjas a vote is trying to get by without being noticed. Townies don't do that. Scum do. Why? Because a townie who is merely inactive for whatever reason won't actually vote, thus resulting in a replacement or modkill. That's what happened with the guy I replaced. Scum will vote, but if they've been inactive all day they'll do one of two things: they'll make up (or tell the truth) an excuse for why they were gone and then place their vote somewhere. In the most blatant cases, scum will simply vote without justifying themselves. Did it work? Obviously he wasn't noticed. Again, I'm not trying to defend Gambit here, I'm trying to see your reasoning. Why him over
Why him over Zealos? Why not? Look at his posts. You think a townie would post that? Gambit is not likely to be modkilled if he's merely going to ninja vote again. Besides, I'd rather kill scum with the tools given to me rather than rely on the mods to do it for me. That's being both lazy and disingenuous. Anyway, I actually truly haven't read the case on Zealos nor many (if any) of his posts at all. I read in the thread up to Gambit's second post IIRC. I need to continue with the rest of the thread from there. Based on what I saw, though, I seriously doubt there will be an easier target than this guy. I am also quite interested in why he's not gaining traction as a lynch; only Blazinghand seems to be willing to kill him, and everyone else is stumbling over themselves to find an excuse not to. You know the last time that happened? Zealos in MTG. Zealos flipped scum. | ||
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On May 30 2012 12:04 VisceraEyes wrote: Bugs can you maybe read Zealos and answer the question posed to you properly before you expect everyone to sheep someone who admittedly hasn't even read all of the thread? It's one thing to have an opposing viewpoint, it's entirely a different story when you admit to just dismissing the other viewpoint. whether or not I've read the rest of the thread is pretty irrelevant when the guy I'm attacking isn't even interested in playing the game. | ||
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good job medics/jailors. On May 30 2012 12:19 VisceraEyes wrote: [spoiler]IwillnottunnelbugsIwillnottunnelbugsIwillnottunnelbugs[spoiler] Guy, seriously...you're acting like YOU'RE not even interested in playing the game the way you're playing. Bugs: "Look at this guy with 2 posts kill it!" Others: "But Bugs what about Zealos" Bugs: "I haven't read Zealos, sheep me!" Others: "Bugs what about these other candidates?" Bugs: "My lynch of choice isn't picking up traction - only one explanation...scum interference! Sheep me if you're not scum!" Like...play with us guy! first of all: this argument actually worked in MTG when Zealos was scum. His lynch picked up no traction and I pointed that out. He was scum. In this case again Zealos is not picking up lynch traction. Neither is Gambit. I think they're both scum. I also think Mattchew is scum. Why? First of all, I ask that if you are a vig and you shot any of me/Meapak/Forumite/Mattchew, please claim now. If you claim now you will save us headaches later because there are 3 shot claims and 1 dead person from last night. That means either a vig shot one of us or one of the shot claimers is a liar. Right now I am inclined to believe that Mattchew is lying and that he is scum. Why? Because scum know who they've targetted. Thus, one of them will come forth and claim a shot as an attempt to become "confirmed" town. Usually it's one of the more experienced members of the scumteam. Mattchew claiming a shot is incredibly scummy because of the way he does it. Firstly, his filter is atrocious. He is very unlikely to be a mafia shot based on what he did yesterday. He lurked and wasn't a replacement, which means if anything he was likely to be a vig shot. Secondly, the "jump"/"trap" on SnB is really bad. SnB's attitude is nothing like it was when I saw him play scum. Secondly, SnB brought up valid points that I think any townie should be considering when you have such an abnormal night where almost no one dies. Now, it's possible Meapak is lying as well but I don't find that likely given how Meapak has behaved all game. I think it's safe for now to assume he's town. So, today, with the wealth of information we have, I think we should keep our lynch targets consolidated between Zealos, Mattchew, and Gambit, all of whom I am supremely confident will flip red. | ||
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On May 30 2012 13:36 Mattchew wrote: Um wbg... You should read the thread I've read it, and the entirety of your filter. Can't say the same for you. You're normally at the very least annoyingly active as town. In this game you're just annoyingly useless. No reads, just total bullshit. As your "defense" (if you could call it that) is to tell me to read, it's pretty apparent you're scum and not town. | ||
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The solution to this dilemma is simple. There is 4 claimed KP from last night. 1 is confirmed to have gone to Forumite. 3 are claimed by myself, Mattchew, and Meapak. If no vigi claims a shot that means that one of these players is lying. It's not me, and I really don't think it's Meapak. That leaves Mattchew. So, as long as there is no vig claim then Mattchew is almost certainly scum. In before scummy lurker #5 claims a shot on Mattchew | ||
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On May 30 2012 13:47 kitaman27 wrote: You can't sub into a game and then refuse to share your reads. this is funny, kita. I shared 3 of my reads. I'm not about to share my town reads (that aren't meapak) nor the rest of my reads. Though, I suppose if you're attacking me right now it means you've caught onto something. Good for you, it's nice to know scum are scared of me. | ||
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On May 30 2012 13:56 Mattchew wrote: DO YOU KNOW HOW FUCKING IRONIC THIS IS derp that's my bad. I glossed over that one post, particularly as you continually attacked snb for doubting you getting shot. you're still a liar. I don't like liars. | ||
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holy shit that just makes me mad | ||
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On May 30 2012 14:06 Mattchew wrote: cause there was nothing anti-town about it, if snb had not slipped so hard on it, it would have just confused mafia. he didn't slip at all, any reasonable townie would assume you were shot by a vig. your filter is completely void of anything, why would mafia ever shoot you? This is why general guides tell people not to gambit or lie as town; if you are actually town you're telling the truth now then all you've done is waste a bunch of time. | ||
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On May 30 2012 09:00 strongandbig wrote: Could Mattchew have been a vig shot? MZ and Foru make way more sense as scum kills but Mattchew doesn't make any sense there. This post to me seems to display no indication of knowledge of the night kills, just that your shot claim doesn't make sense as a scum one. | ||
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