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AcesRequiem
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First game of mafia online. Played some werewolf games IRL, and I liked them quite a bit ^^ | ||
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So sorry for giving you a hard time, mods, but I have seen some abriviations used in other games such as WIFOM and AF | ||
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Having read through the entire thread here is my analyses. First off about the role claiming of both the blue roles: When we bring up the list paschl made for us, we can see that Town only once had the advantage of having both a detective and medic in their ranks. It seems very unlikely that this is the case in this game, but it's still a possiblity. Now for the two of you role claiming the blue roles, there are some possible scenario's: 1) You are both scum. This seems very unlikely and it's a rare playstyle for scum to handle, but it's still possible. 2) One or both of you is/are lying. I have strong reasons to believe so. I think there's only one of you lying and that liar is possibly trying to take a bullet for the real blue roles to come into play. It's a good strategy but it has some disadvantages. First off, when you aren't who you claim to be and you do get killed/lynched, there will be a lot of confusion in the Town, which only benefits the mafia. Secondly, the real blue role is probably thinking the liar is speaking the truth and is making his moves based upon this. This would probably mean the blue role will protect the liar, thus not helping the town in any way with his abilities. 3) You are both speaking the truth. This would be a dream scenario for the Town, especially with the plan FirmTofu has come up with. This means the game will be over pretty quickly unless the mafia completely plays you and the Town. I know I have been pretty inactive so far, I know this makes me pretty scummy, but please do believe me when I tell you I have a role of Vanilla Townie. As for all the other posts. Gummy - you seem like a pretty active and agressive Townie to me who doesn't hesitate to put all the players (thus the mafia) under pressure. You look legit. paschl - you look like a friendly guy who wants to be nice to everyone, you haven't really attacked/been in a argument with anyone so far. Ange777 - same as paschl, became defensive when Gummy made a comment about him. Matriarch - no posts to speak of as of yet, please stop lurking and start posting! dahdum - did the same as I did, share thoughts on people, except I attacked the two role claimers. You became inactive ever since. Please get the discussion started. Demorcef - you look pretty Townie, not afraid to discuss with people. And that's about it! Please feel free to discuss/argue with me and previous points made. | ||
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FirmTofu - You're looking less and less scummy to me. You had a good case going against Gummy, weren't afraid of being agressive, but he was able to give a semi-good reasoning for the actions you critized. Clawtrocity - I feel like your emotions get the better of yourself and you are slipping quiet badly because Gummy is attacking you like that. Please reconsider your vote, because you don't have a terrible case going atm. I think you yourself realize that scum won't post/spam that actively in a maffia game, because they would be too afraid of posting too much. Let's say he is scum, then this part makes no sense at all: At best he's a scum who'll lie and bullshit his way around until eventually getting lynched while his teammate sits in the back and does almost nothing. Did you even think when you posted this? My answer is certainly no. Mafia wants to survive, not bullshit around and hope everyone will take them for an overactive townie. Even if the Town is falling into that trap you think Gummy has set up, still he's being way too much of a benefit to the town for him to be scum in my eyes. My conclusion on you is that: a) you're either a Townie who wanted to be a martyr for a real blue role player (hence the role claim) and you are now trying to bait the mafia either more on you, which is horribly failing because Gummy is succesfulf in drawing all the attention to himself. This seems very unlikely. b) you are a blue role, who is convinced Gummy is scum but you can't get out of your words that good or make a good case against him. More likely, but I don't think this is the way, because you look like a smart guy to me. c) you're scum. This is the most likely option, because you have been defensive the entire game (only with your last game have you tried to make a case against Gummy and I believe that's out of entire desperation) and finger pointing to what other people do, so you should be able to those things aswell. Ange777 - You entirely convinced me Gummy isn't scum with your defense for him. Nice analysis. paschl - I have no clue at all why you are staying out of the "big" discussion and decided to vote on a complete silent player, please explain why you are suddenly distracted by Dahdum. - Gummy - 100% Townie, please try to keep the thread spam and poll free. I have seen that people have posted why I was writing this, will catch up to those posts now I can. | ||
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Back to the game at hand. Gummy, please, don't go for an annoying mode like this. You're just frustrated because noone seems to listen to you. And that is probably right since you spammed like 2 pages full and noone has ever responded except for paschl. Please be patient and wait for people to get active, then they will give their thoughts, critize or agree with your arguments and cast a vote themselves. No need to get into childish behaviour, please. | ||
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So the real question would be, are you scum who joins Claw's bandwagon or just a fooled Townie? You are going to need a lot more than it takes to have a strong case and good reason to vote on Gummy imo. To me it just looks like you want to get rid of him atm, that's why I strongly recomend you to think again about that vote and give better arguments why would lynch Gummy. | ||
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##Vote: Clawtrocity | ||
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On May 03 2012 08:52 FirmTofu wrote: My reasoning was that because the medic had already decided to reveal, I might as well give him a target to heal. Either way, I don't affect his chances of being killed, I only increased my chances of surviving at night. If Claw flips scum, as you say he will, I am still in a good position because the medic is hidden and I can begin informing town of my results. If Claw flips Vanilla Townie, then the medic is safely hidden, and again I am still in a great position going forward. If Claw flips Medic, then we are in trouble. However, according to you this is impossible, so I have nothing to worry about. Like I said before, claiming detective was a win-win situation. That's why I did it. How are you so sure the medic will support you, even after people have called your play scummy and irrational? Even if Gummy isn't the medic, you still have no 100% guarantee the medic will heal you the night after. Clawtrocity, you think Gummy is protecting you with his counterclaim and accuesitions he throws at you. But you're tired of this circlejerk between you both and decide to cast a vote on him, yet you are sure he is Town and you state that to a fellow player, but still don't withdraw your vote? And even then you keep giving arguments and critize Gummy on his points he makes to you (for example the freudian slip and the math-war you have going on there), even though you think of yourself you are in a perfect position and cannot be harmed at all, just because he is protecting you. I have no idea how you even CAME UP with this theory, but I hope you are starting to believe this is complete crap you're spitting. At least I can safely say you are only causing confusing in the Town, at worse I can say you're 99% scum. Please convince me otherwise. Gummy, please chill out and try to convince the Town of your arguments instead of posting heavy-emotional influenced arguments that makes no sense at all and make people not take you serious. I am your side atm in the fact that Claw is scum, but for complete other reasons (i.e. his confusing play that helps the town NOTHING at all). | ||
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I think it's pretty clear why the mafia didn't kill anyone of the sacred triangle of Gummy, FirmTofu and Clawtrocity. The obvious reason is they want to keep the Town in confusion about who the real medic is.It's a dumb move on the maffias part to not try to target the medic or cop, but on the same time the Town is still not quite sure about the blue roles. However opinions change. And mine is changing quite a bit. FirmTofu, at first I did not agree at all with your inspection, especially because of the framer. We can also quite safely confirm they have no roleblocker on their team. Reason is they would surely have blocked you, even if they doubted your claim. You can't just let a cop inspect every/a single night, it's simply not a clever thing to do. However not killing any of the suspected blue roles is also not a very clever thing to do imo as I have stated before, so we need to watch out for this mafia team as it seems they won't do the most logical thing the Town think they'll do. Clawtrocity, you immediatly claimed you put your heal on FirmTofu whiel Gummy hasn't said A SINGLE thing yet about his heal. This is a very huge thing in my opinion. Gummy, please don't change your playstyle. I liked how you were agressive and how you made paschl go nuts sometime. It's a very scummy move if you look at it from a certain perspective and together with the heal claim I mentioned above, you ARE looking more and more scummy to me. Or you just your hopes on this game for the second time, remember when you were sure maffia would kill you? | ||
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FirmTofu, at first I did not agree at all with your inspection, especially because of the framer. I meant that I do agree with you on the possiblity of a framer in the mafia team. However, now the framer has one night to also frame either Gummy or Clawtroicity, depending on who he framed first. Maybe one of them is a likely target for this night because they would both be framed, right? | ||
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##Vote: Clawtrocity @Matriarch, get your format right please. | ||
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Paschl mainly because he voted for Claw when you switched your vote, Gummy. Even though you were strongly convinced Gummy was the enemy and Claw was innocent, you still voted for his lynch. I can understand this from one point, but it looks very scummy from another. FirmTofu and Gummy you two are seriously both so confusing, however, you both bring up some fine arguments. Will look into this deeper in a moment. Gummy, why are you so sure Ange777 is maffia? Stop throwing around random accusations and please explain. I'm suspecting him aswell. But why would we not go for a save lynch and lynch the lurker, being dahdum? We should've done this on day one for christ sake. ##Vote: dahdum | ||
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