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BlackRaven
Profile Joined April 2012
43 Posts
April 26 2012 09:01 GMT
#66
Drazerk and Hassybaby shall be using this account as a hydra

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BlackRaven
Profile Joined April 2012
43 Posts
April 26 2012 20:24 GMT
#85
I really only have one thing to say

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BlackRaven
Profile Joined April 2012
43 Posts
May 02 2012 23:24 GMT
#208
blubb, why are you asking whether someone has a power role so early in the game? Why would you try to paint a target on someone like that?

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BlackRaven
Profile Joined April 2012
43 Posts
May 03 2012 12:01 GMT
#263
Well he is Palmar...

- D
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BlackRaven
Profile Joined April 2012
43 Posts
May 03 2012 17:06 GMT
#296
On May 04 2012 01:56 Palmar wrote:
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On May 04 2012 01:37 SomethingAwesome wrote:
On May 04 2012 01:25 Palmar wrote:
On May 04 2012 01:19 SomethingAwesome wrote:
On May 04 2012 00:34 Palmar wrote:
I want to look useful to the town without knowing what's going on. If I read the thread past Kenpachi's claim that might help.

doesn't want to put effort into game only to get shot n1 and because we don't have a jailer/medic.. read you loud and clear homes


That's a dumb way to play the game.

then why are you doing that

-mattchew

I'm not doing that!


Everyone is doing that.

- D
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BlackRaven
Profile Joined April 2012
43 Posts
May 03 2012 17:59 GMT
#305
On May 04 2012 02:47 DoYouHas wrote:
Palmar's confrontational and empty 1 liners make it impossible to get a read on him. (anti-town) He is shutting down conversation instead of fostering it. (anti-town) I have no interest in keeping someone around who I won't be able to get a handle on and who I think is hurting the town.

##Vote: Palmar


What? You're voting for someone because you're not good enough to work out his alignment?

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BlackRaven
Profile Joined April 2012
43 Posts
May 03 2012 18:04 GMT
#308
Your first point is that you can't read him. Your second vote is that he's stopping discussion, correct? That's how I've read it

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BlackRaven
Profile Joined April 2012
43 Posts
May 03 2012 18:07 GMT
#309
On May 04 2012 03:01 marvellosity wrote:
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On May 04 2012 02:59 BlackRaven wrote:
On May 04 2012 02:47 DoYouHas wrote:
Palmar's confrontational and empty 1 liners make it impossible to get a read on him. (anti-town) He is shutting down conversation instead of fostering it. (anti-town) I have no interest in keeping someone around who I won't be able to get a handle on and who I think is hurting the town.

##Vote: Palmar


What? You're voting for someone because you're not good enough to work out his alignment?

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That's not what he said, why wilfully represent his post?


I also read it as hassy stated and as someone who also has a chaotic posting style there is generally at least 1 scum on these easy "anti town" lynches just trying to slip in and look useless.

-D
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BlackRaven
Profile Joined April 2012
43 Posts
May 03 2012 18:18 GMT
#311
I'm not defending him. He could be a cactus for all I care. I'm asking you about your retarded logic

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BlackRaven
Profile Joined April 2012
43 Posts
May 03 2012 18:42 GMT
#316
On May 04 2012 03:30 DoYouHas wrote:
Oh, and btw. You are defending Palmar by attacking the person going after him. You discredit me and Palmar no longer has a need to respond.


This is wrong

- D
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BlackRaven
Profile Joined April 2012
43 Posts
May 03 2012 18:51 GMT
#318
Cool, lets's go

On May 04 2012 02:47 DoYouHas wrote:
Palmar's confrontational and empty 1 liners make it impossible to get a read on him. (anti-town) He is shutting down conversation instead of fostering it. (anti-town) I have no interest in keeping someone around who I won't be able to get a handle on and who I think is hurting the town.

##Vote: Palmar


Firstly, confrontational and empty is an oxymoron in Mafia. Confrontation brings discussion. Discussion good. Discussion not make posts empty.

Secondly, not having a read on someone does not make him anti-town. It makes him just another player in the game. It sure as hell isn't a reason to vote him.

Thirdly.....well see the first point about your second one. He got you talking didn't he?

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BlackRaven
Profile Joined April 2012
43 Posts
May 03 2012 18:53 GMT
#319
On May 04 2012 03:47 DoYouHas wrote:
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On May 04 2012 03:42 BlackRaven wrote:
On May 04 2012 03:30 DoYouHas wrote:
Oh, and btw. You are defending Palmar by attacking the person going after him. You discredit me and Palmar no longer has a need to respond.


This is wrong

- D


How is fitting the definition of a chainsaw defense wrong?


If a player ever uses a chainsaw defence as an actual defence they are scum there is no leeway about it and its bad play all around.

People should never use other peoples arguments to make them appear either townie or scum its just bad play and they deserve to be lynched if they do so.

Me and Hassy both still expect things from Palmar at some stage we just both dislike you at the moment.

-D
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BlackRaven
Profile Joined April 2012
43 Posts
May 03 2012 19:44 GMT
#325
Other hydra head such a noob

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BlackRaven
Profile Joined April 2012
43 Posts
May 03 2012 19:45 GMT
#326
On May 04 2012 04:43 Drazerk wrote:
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On May 04 2012 04:28 DoYouHas wrote:
How can something be both confrontational and empty? I could just quote everything you say and then say "Nuh-uh". Palmar's posting has essentially been one step above that.

I have never played with Palmar before, but I do know he is a recognized player that people are going to listen to for no other reason than his name. If any unknown player was to post like Palmar has so far he would be tuned out until he starting making real contributions. The fact that Palmar is supposed to be a decent player but shows no interest in contributing is anti-town to me.

As for shutting down conversation instead of promoting it. Marvel and Matt both tried to engage Palmar only to be deflected or belittled by him. It may be true, as you say, that Palmar playing anti-town has gotten me talking. But that is hardly the act of a townie. To intentionally act anti-town in order to draw people to attacking you is something I have only ever seen once before from a townie. It was bad then and got him killed. It is bad now if that is what Palmar is doing.

The one point I will grant you is that I obviously have a read on Palmar (anti-town) or I would not have voted him.

I'm just as guilty of holding Palmar to a different standard as the rest of you. The difference being that while I see some of you excusing him posting crap because of his reputation, I see someone who has the potential to lead the town but is instead acting against the town. That is enough for me to vote him.


If you have not played with Palmar you should read his last like 30 games or so this is pretty much is town meta (See that? That is defending someone. You should learn the difference and then ignore it completely as it is worthless)

Also I have actively played anti town multiple times and once caught the entire scum team because of it so it is not a bad strategy it just requires some form of brains before you actually attempt it.

-D


D is a noob

-D
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BlackRaven
Profile Joined April 2012
43 Posts
May 03 2012 20:16 GMT
#332
On May 04 2012 05:14 Drazerk wrote:
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On May 04 2012 05:05 Katina wrote:
On May 04 2012 04:15 grush57 wrote:
On May 04 2012 03:39 blubbdavid wrote:
I am still waiting for grush to be useful. But going through his filter in other games, my hopes will be smited.
Palmar looks like a good lynch candidate too, because he 1) isn't townielike, 2) isn't making much sense 3) voted for me without reasoning.

I assume we still have 24h+ for voting?


Common atleast my useless posts are funny unlike yours. Plus, you didn't understand the situation of that game I played(I'm the same role this game too).

Anyways, I'm not sure what to make of the last 3 pages. It is full of useless posts and spam and Bill Murray didn't even start yet.
Several posts saying nothing except that "I'm town, trust me i gotta go.... eat?" (Like this post except im not hungry atm :D)

For my reasoning of Katina vote, the game just started and blazinghand was accusing Katina for his scumminess, and I agreed so I voted for him, plus I wanted to get the ball rolling. Granted, I realize now this was a dumbshit move that was scummy,and that is my horrible reasoning for it. If you don't like it, Sorry.

I would vote you blubbdavid, but I have enough people witchhunting me now.(And I didn't even rage on ladder how unlucky am I?)
Though, I could just filter and quote everything and that would get the job done.



I like that. BH throws around empty accusations and you jump right on board with this. Looks like a case of something called "Sheeping" Don't worry, it's curable!

BM has been not been his usual posting self lately. He likes to lurk when he is Mafia. He made a few brief posts early on then disappeared into La La land. So that is something to keep an eye on.

I don't like the whole idea of all the vote switching that has been going on here. It's not helpful to the town and brings nothing but confusion and chaos to everyone else. I know it's only day one but at least try to have more than one sentence before getting voting happy.


It only brings confusion and chaos if everyone is bad

-D


Im a noob

-D
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BlackRaven
Profile Joined April 2012
43 Posts
May 03 2012 20:48 GMT
#335
blubb why are you saying a guy who hasn't posted anything is a better target than a guy you think is scum? Especially after your previous comments

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BlackRaven
Profile Joined April 2012
43 Posts
May 04 2012 18:22 GMT
#437
You know I liked layabout at the start but now he is probably going to cause more harm than if I was a medic...

##Vote: layabout

-D
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BlackRaven
Profile Joined April 2012
43 Posts
May 04 2012 18:47 GMT
#439
You look really anti town though so that is the best way to use the lynch

-D
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BlackRaven
Profile Joined April 2012
43 Posts
May 04 2012 21:58 GMT
#540
Kurumi is a god amongst men

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BlackRaven
Profile Joined April 2012
43 Posts
May 04 2012 22:04 GMT
#553
BH don't ever change. Especially since you and i are the same person

Also, Happy Birthday N_T!

(that's a messed up smiley)

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