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![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/iZS8D.jpg) Hi. I'm a bunny, and I'll probably be filling in for most of this game as [UoN]Sentinel is busy breaking down in tears in the bathroom. Something about "purple haze not being in the player list". But I always help him out with analysis in his other games so I should be fine. | ||
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On April 21 2012 04:26 VisceraEyes wrote: are you high? If you're not high today you're wrong. | ||
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At any rate, what I don't get is number 6. If I was GF pretending to be vig, I'd shoot as many of the other vigs as I could. And if I was JK, I'd protect those vigs who I trust to be either town vigs or some other blues. | ||
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Let's do it like this - everyone just do whatever the fuck they want as long as it's beneficial in some way to town. If it's not beneficial in some way to town, then lynch them. If there's one thing I know, it's that voting/lynching/etc. plans always benefit mafia because they can pull them to their advantage (and also you get lynched when your plan especially sucks). Keeping in mind with this train of thought, I will proceed to do whatever the fuck I want as long as it's beneficial in some way to town. When I get back, I'll read filters and try and put more on the table. | ||
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On April 22 2012 01:42 layabout wrote: How are you feeling VE? Any thoughts on marvellosity paqman or mattchew? we need Risen to rise and get posting we need ghost 403 to de-cloak we need St.Daniel to grace us with his presence we need Janaan to get out of bed we need slOosh to stop fapping to Beethoven* we need BroodkingEXE to execute som scum for us we need Bill Murray to get his head in the game we need Zephirrd to tell you guys to stop posting shit we need layabout to Shit, should've stayed AFK. I wanted a pun too  | ||
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On whatever date and time johnnywup wrote: I think [UoN] Sentinel is the scummiest and I will post a case on him in a bit. Hold the phone. What? On April 22 2012 08:43 johnnywup wrote: yes gonzaw i can in fact change my mind. I found my case on sentinel was subpar so i didn't post it. whats wrong with that? So... can we have a little tidbit of it? Is my lurking in there, Mr. Wup? Because I'm a regular lurker. Sometimes I have to sleep and eat and go places where I can't exactly contribute to mafia games. This is especially apparent when there are 30 freakin' players and it's a pain in the ass to have to catch up all the time. What about the other inactives? What specifically irks you about my lurking that I have to be voted off? On April 22 2012 08:50 johnnywup wrote: Make it better? I think the case was bad and I didn't have enough evidence to make it a good case. So get off me. I don't care what it makes me look like. If I have a bad case and I post it and people recognize that it's bad then that's worse. I'm being perfectly transparent that my case was bad. I don't have to post anything for you. Hell, I'll give you some points for honesty, but could you at least PM me the case? I'd like to know my charges. Let's see why Otto doesn't like me: On April 22 2012 07:38 Ottoxlol wrote: [UoN] Sentinel had two real posts, the first + Show Spoiler + Just wondering, what's the chance gonzaw's not mafia but just making an extremely retarded point? At any rate, what I don't get is number 6. If I was GF pretending to be vig, I'd shoot as many of the other vigs as I could. And if I was JK, I'd protect those vigs who I trust to be either town vigs or some other blues. He doesnt know that GFs cant shoot.. Nuf said, very bad post, calling out gonzaw but not making a case against his plan Incorrect. As GF you have this little-known thing called "kill power". This is how people tend to die at night. Now if I was GF and people claimed vig, I would be telling my scum buddies, "Hey guys, these people can shoot us. We need to kill a townie anyway, let's hit them where it counts." + Show Spoiler + I'm starting to think all of you people purposely post when I sleep Let's do it like this - everyone just do whatever the fuck they want as long as it's beneficial in some way to town. If it's not beneficial in some way to town, then lynch them. If there's one thing I know, it's that voting/lynching/etc. plans always benefit mafia because they can pull them to their advantage (and also you get lynched when your plan especially sucks). Keeping in mind with this train of thought, I will proceed to do whatever the fuck I want as long as it's beneficial in some way to town. When I get back, I'll read filters and try and put more on the table. I would wait till he put more on the table before we jump to conclusions, I disagree with that plans always benefiting mafia. He's talkin more in general terms, so maybe if he states his case more clearly we'll get more information. Sentinel, if you would be so kind to tell us your opinion about who's benefiting the town right now and who's not, i would like to read what do you think who should we lynch. To be honest, at first I suspected Sloosh. This is why - On April 22 2012 06:01 slOosh wrote: I like Ottoxlol - his questions are pertinent. And yes I think VisceraEyes is scum. Posting like this is terribad. Saying you like someone kinda establishes a one-way trust bond where in this case Otto would be less likely to lynch sloosh because sloosh supports Otto, but on very, very little evidence. "His questions are pertinent". If I ask a mafia-related question to Bluelightz that's also pertinent. Means nothing. Sloosh describes VE's anger as fearmongering, but other than that I have no problem with his argument. Which brings me to my next suspect: On April 22 2012 09:35 ghost_403 wrote: @paqman: This is how I contribute. I find scum, I tell people they are scum, and I beat them to a pulp when they respond to me thinking they are scum. If Sentinel bothered to poke his head in the thread, I'd be beating the crap out of him at the moment. See TLM LI. @gonzaw: I don't like everyone voting all over the place, but I can see exactly what you're saying, so I'm going to ##vote [UoN]Sentinel because I think he's playing the scummiest at the moment. (This me not liking to vote is really something I need to get out of my usual play.) VE's disappearance from should be noted. As far as this change of heart, I don't see it as a change of heart. Not all bad play is scummy play. What I was trying to get across there is that I think that Sentinel is the better lynch out of the two of them. @johnny: I hate writing up cases against people. I pointed it out that I think he's scummy here. I think big posts are a waste of time and space, but that's probably why no one listens to me in these games. brb, writing up a big poast. Why, why, why, why, WHY? You give absolutely nothing for my case. "I'm playing scummy." No explanation. No rationale. No logic. This argument holds so little water it could be Sahara. A good chunk of his filter deals with why I'm bad but never offers any of his own advice. Strike two for not using the "quote" button. This makes it seem like he has something to hide, as well as pissing me off, because I (and any other observers) have to look what other people wrote and I can't read his damn filter. Strike three because another chunk, maybe 50%, can be summarized with "Shut the hell up and help me find scum." This to me looks more threatening than old Viscera did. ##Vote: ghost_403 You all wanted me to post. Your wish has been granted. | ||
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On April 22 2012 10:00 Ottoxlol wrote: slOosh defending me made him the number one of my suspects. GFs dont have kp, only Goons have. You haven't read the rules or the thread Is there not a QT or some way for GF's to contact goons? That wasn't mentioned in OP. Because the standard way of going about it is that they all discuss who to kill. Goons have the final say, but vigs can still be suggested. Your argument is moot. | ||
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On April 22 2012 09:50 ghost_403 wrote: BIG POAST TIEM or How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Decided to Lynch Sentinel 3 posts really doesn't give you much to go on. + Show Spoiler + On April 21 2012 11:39 [UoN]Sentinel wrote: Just wondering, what's the chance gonzaw's not mafia but just making an extremely retarded point? At any rate, what I don't get is number 6. If I was GF pretending to be vig, I'd shoot as many of the other vigs as I could. And if I was JK, I'd protect those vigs who I trust to be either town vigs or some other blues. I don't like this post. It reading this post out of context implies that everyone has already come to the conclusion that gonzaw is mafia, when that isn't at all what's happening in the thread. Up to this point, VE is the only person who's pushed this idea at all. IMO, this is him hedging his bets. I can see him allowing a gonzaw lynch, gonzaw flips green, and him saying "Called it! I'm townie!" No, this is called "Disregard bandwagon, acquire opinions." I wanted my question answered, and thus I asked the question. Also I have a penchant for making acidic posts like that one. If you don't like it, I'm doing my job right. In addition, this is not how you discuss another posters post. Just saying "I don't agree" is not the least bit helpful to the town. + Show Spoiler + On April 22 2012 01:20 [UoN]Sentinel wrote: I'm starting to think all of you people purposely post when I sleep Let's do it like this - everyone just do whatever the fuck they want as long as it's beneficial in some way to town. If it's not beneficial in some way to town, then lynch them. If there's one thing I know, it's that voting/lynching/etc. plans always benefit mafia because they can pull them to their advantage (and also you get lynched when your plan especially sucks). Keeping in mind with this train of thought, I will proceed to do whatever the fuck I want as long as it's beneficial in some way to town. When I get back, I'll read filters and try and put more on the table. "Hey guys, let's not work together at all!" Towns have to work together. Instead, he's encouraging anarchy, and giving himself a pass to do it. Yes. I have a vote, and thus I must decide how to use that vote well. I'd rather have anarchy than offering up precious resources (vigilantes) onto the sacrificial table to find who's godfather and who isn't. Invisible Hand Principle - when people act in their self-interest, as long as they're not stupid about it, it benefits others as well. Individual ambition benefits society, or in this case the town. + Show Spoiler + On April 22 2012 01:58 [UoN]Sentinel wrote: Shit, should've stayed AFK. I wanted a pun too Worthless post, and it was posted 15 minutes after layabout's original post. I'm pretty sure Ver said something about lurkers posting exactly this way in his guide. Clearly, he's here. Clearly he's not doing anything. At this point, Sentinel has had plenty of time to contribute something, anything, to this town, and he has not. I believe that this is not because he is busy, but because he's scum. tl;dr - vote sentinel. Then you are not familiar with Sentinel. He always plays like this. | ||
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"Has it ever occurred to you I'm doing homework and I'm refreshing this infrequently to check out how the thread's going and/or defend my life like I'm doing right now?" Sorry for inconvenience  | ||
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Also the fact that this thread updates like 5 pages when I'm asleep doesn't help. | ||
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QT =/= PM. | ||
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Oh. Shit. Ok you got me there. Scratch the case, I think either I already covered your potential points or someone else has already posted them. Proof that this isn't a scumslip - I didn't read OP before game started either. Check filter, it's like the second post there. Anything else I did idiotically? | ||
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On April 22 2012 10:12 ghost_403 wrote: @sentinel My problem is there wasn't a bandwagon. You make it sound like the entire town has gonzaw up on the gallows, when really it's just VE standing in the center of the town screaming that gonzaw is scum. You quoted Ver, so I'll quote Incognito. Small but vocal groups can be influential to turning lynches around. Or in this case, lynching in the first place. Also, that wasn't a question. This is you making a statement, trying to look like you're contributing. Tell me, did you get your quesiton answered? I could make some scathing remark about grammar, but it's time to tone down the acidity, it's not good for my health. Yes, I did get my question answered reasonably. Does this answer your question? Just no. Towns work together or they lose. There's a difference between working together and sacrificing suspicious townies. "It's my meta" is not a good counter to "I think you're useless." Stop being useless and find me some scum. Hey didn't I make a comment about this earlier? Strike three because another chunk, maybe 50%, can be summarized with "Shut the hell up and help me find scum." This to me looks more threatening than old Viscera did. Oh. Yeah. There it is. So now what I'm going to do is take a trip to the toilet and go calm down, and then I'll probably start with marv and work from there. | ||
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+ Show Spoiler + On April 21 2012 20:13 BlazingJitsu wrote: Marvellosity. Let me talk to you. No correction let me talk AT you. what are you doing this game? Let's look at your filter + Show Spoiler + On April 21 2012 09:05 marvellosity wrote: Mattchew, I thought we were gonna have a long, happy, and romp-filled relationship, then you make me click on multiple spoilers. On April 21 2012 10:23 marvellosity wrote: I've tried to think of a bunch of different scenarios and I've not yet managed to picture one where mafia couldn't claim the same situation. The only way a vigi really clears himself is by shooting scum :/ On April 21 2012 10:33 marvellosity wrote: Holy gonzaw post. Nice ^--- These posts are short and worthless. ^--- this post is actually correct, but interestingly, despite the fact that it's the right time to talk about the game mechanics... you never talk about the game mechanics. You ask some unhelpful questions and echo worthless obvious shit other people have said, but otherwise you're deadweight. Where's your contributions, Marv? Where's the discussion that it is "absolute the right time" to talk about? or do you only have inane questions? ^=== HOLY SHIT this question is bad. holy shit. Of course there's good circumstances to make a vig shot! SHOOT A SCUM GUY. Christ. Even if you shoot a godfather, at least that's a data point (not quite a DT check's worth, because it might hasve been roleblock), and if you shoot a goon, hey, you shot a goon. Are you TRYING to be as unhelpful as possible? Are you TRYING to actively inhibit our blue roles? Surely if so it's through neither quality of prose nor persistence in communicating the ideas contained therein with your miniscule cumuluative post length. Typically this is where I say "you can do better, marv" but really, ANYONE could do better. You're shitting on the town and trying to build up a post count without saying ANYTHING. You're lurking in plain sight. ##vote: marvellosity. -Blazinghand Especially the part about a good time to make a vig shot. First off, the tone of BH's post is like sulfuric acid to my lemon juice. I've never, ever, seen him post like that before. Second, BH should have more of a problem with VE. Marv asked a stupid question? Big fucking whoop. We've all done it at one point or another, it's not a death sentence. Are you TRYING to be as unhelpful as possible? Are you TRYING to actively inhibit our blue roles? Surely if so it's through neither quality of prose nor persistence in communicating the ideas contained therein with your miniscule cumuluative post length. Unwarranted, this is. | ||
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On April 22 2012 04:02 St.Daniel wrote: It's so fucking hard to keep up with everything when you are at a camp with a crappy internet connection XD I've read everything and I can't conclude anything with a confident, but I do have some ideas based on my observation so far. I'll post again as soon as I put some of pieces together. And there is no need to be hostile at each this early in game, because thst's EXACTLY what they (scum) want. As long as we keep expressing ideas without trying to bite each other's head off. Remember, keep it simple and clear. <3 TL. This is fluff. All of it. He posted seven hours ago, and I'm feeling a little generous so I'll wait till he posts again before making final judgment. But definitely flashing red to me. | ||
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On April 21 2012 23:17 BroodKingEXE wrote: /confirm Ok, here is my thought on the matter. Revealing the vig roles is a bad idea in my mind. This is because of the possible hits of vig's. We don't know how exciting this game is going to be; we very well could have bored townies due to the size of the game. If we have vig's having to aim at lurkers, as a town we gain no info as the vig could have made an honest mistake. Also what if the mafia choose to circumvent the situation and not fake-claim. The Mafia kills before the Millers we would have wasted our two shots. There is really no way for a vig to get a shot off and figure out the alignment of the player in question unless we target them on the lynch. Brood has one post too (at least one with any substance). This is a little better than St. Dan because it actually talks about vig mechanics. But I don't see how that creates such a disparity that we barely talk about Brood but cast suspicion on St. Dan. | ||
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