Yep, roles get sent out at the same time as Day 1 begins, that way no one can get a head start on the game. This should be a good newbie game, got a decent mix of complete newbie and people with a couple games under their belt!

Janaan

United States381 Posts

March 31 2012 00:36 GMT

#529

Hey guys, I've been keeping track of the game a little bit, but I'll need some time to really read the thread closely. We're on the right track, though, one scum down already. Let me know if you have specific questions for me about events that already happened, otherwise I won't clog up the thread with my thoughts on how lynches went or previous night kills.

Janaan

United States381 Posts

March 31 2012 07:06 GMT

#532

After reading through the thread a bit, I think I'll start off with my overall reads on the players and go from there. These won't be full-on cases, just basically impressions. The order will be in order of the players list, not my suspicions.

Mementoss: Town. I don't think anyone doubts it now, and I'll be taking a VERY close look at anyone who says otherwise. After Michaelthe tried to push Mementoss, and Mementoss led Michaelthe's lynch, it's pretty clear that it was more than bussing, therefore Mementoss is town.

Virtu: It's tough to say, since he hasn't been active. I know he gave a real explanation for his absence, but that doesn't mean that he can't be scum. Artanis did bring up a good point about him coming back to vote, but at the same time, I can see him coming back to vote to not let down his scum-team. I think it's a bit WIFOM to decide his alignment just based on that. Unfortunately, with his circumstances, we may not hear much more from him, so if he IS scum, it may be hard to tell. Null read right now.

Nova_Terra: Looking scummy. I'd agree with the general opinion that Nova's posts are not looking good to me, if for no other reason than process of elimination. I can't explain things like why Michaelthe would want to vote for Nova on Day 2 if they were both scum, but trying to figure that out would just be an exercise in WIFOM. He's been posting a lot, and the posts feel a bit different from last game. It could just be him trying a different style like he said, or it could be because he's scum.

Ninja (Me now): Ninja didn't leave me in a good spot it seems. He's lurked pretty badly so far with only 2 pages of filter by day 4 and I can see why most of you guys say he was scummy. Just give me a chance to redeem myself. That's all I ask for.

BlueyD: He's been lurking almost as much as Ninja, it seems. He has about the same number of posts, they're just generally bigger. It could be an attempt to make him look more active than he actually is? In his most recent post, he promises an analysis of Mementoss, so I really look forward to seeing that. He looks a bit scummy right now, though.

Other comments: I don't think we can really deduce much from the most recent night kill. Artanis was the only 100% confirmed townie for everyone in the game, so of course scum would want to get rid of him, regardless of who the scum are.

Who I think should most likely be lynched today: I'm thinking either Nova or BlueyD. Virtu is too much of a wild card right now, I think. While he could be scum, there's not enough information to know for sure. Remember, if we don't have a medic or veteran, we're at MYLO, so we don't have the luxury of being wrong here.

If we ARE at MYLO, I suppose that it's *possible* to no lynch to gain more time for information gathering, but I personally wouldn't suggest it. If we were to do that, most likely, scum would simply kill Mementoss and we would be no better off. We'd just be without our strongest, essentially 100% confirmed, town player. If we can't come to an agreed lynch target, though, we at least have the option.

Now, everyone may have done this previously in the thread, but if possible, I'd like for everyone to give their 2 top lynch candidates for today so everything's out in the open and not buried back in the thread. At the moment, mine are, as previously stated, Nova and BlueyD.

Janaan

United States381 Posts

March 31 2012 15:28 GMT

#538

On March 31 2012 17:08 Nova_Terra wrote:
1. Pretty sure this is a LYLO. Think thats an honest mistake.
2. The part about BlueyD? Looks to me like mafia bussing, actually. just a "bit scummy." Trying to gain towncred after he flips maybe?
3. After last game, I am naturally inclined to hate replacements. Therefore, i still think that ninja/you is the best lynch after blueyD. Even if you do a lot to try to redeem yourself. Ninjas play was scummy, and to have a replacement come in and everything is ok about them then is ridiculous. Like cosine/velinath from last game. was terrible.
My top two candidates are still BlueyD and ninja/Janaan.
Sorry that Artanis is gone, but kinda figured either him or mementoss would die anyway.

2. Funny. I was just thinking the same thing about you. However, there IS another possibility. Since you seem adamant that BlueyD and I should be suspects, it could be that you and Virtu are the scummy ones. Tell me, just what do you think about Virtu? As it stands now, you have only even mentioned him in your posts about 5 times, and most of those were just asking him to post because "we need everyone". The only reads you've given were Null, "40% chance of being mafia".

Just for fun, lets see how much Virtu has talked about you. After the early game, talking about your meta from last game, one quote about Artanis's vig shot: + Show Spoiler +

On March 25 2012 20:47 virtu wrote:

Show nested quote +

It sucks he flips green but I think we'd have had a really hard time convincing people to lynch someone other than him tonight. Making statements like he enjoys confusing people, and voting for no lynch on day1 when everyone agreed that's probably the worst possible town outcome?

As you said, should make it easier to scumhunt now.

The more I think about this, the more it makes sense. Thoughts on this, anyone?

Janaan

United States381 Posts

March 31 2012 15:47 GMT

#539

EBWOP: I'll be gone for most of the day in about an hour (I'm in college, and my parents are in town this weekend, so I'll be spending time with them, then my GF in the evening) so I won't be back on until late. Probably around 12-14 hours from now.

Janaan

United States381 Posts

March 31 2012 23:59 GMT

#543

On April 01 2012 03:25 Nova_Terra wrote:
Janaan you're not helping me get over my hatred of replacements T-T
I posted my thoughts on virtu earlier, and they still stand. lemme grab them in a sec.
This still looks even more like a last ditch attempt to throw suspicion off of a scumbuddy.
Ok here is my thing on Virtu
"Virtu early game: virtu starts off by posting a couple 1-2 liners of fluff and then goes into standard agreement play where people start agreeing about day1 lurker lynches etc, and then he starts noting playstyles from last game, mine in particular. I can see how this could be useful, but as of yet he hadnt really posted anything helpful. he does randomly afk for 22 hours, which isnt good, but he does post a nice large analysis post on RoF/ System/ kinda ninja. does he use other peoples points? yes. does he effectively illustrate reasons why they are suspicious anyway? yes. still rather null on him.
he switches around a few votes trying to get system lynched, but shifts back immediately to ensure majority stays. he seems like he is trying to be helpful. he provokes some discussion on gossemerr before having to stop due to a serious RL issue (and i really hope everything is okay). overall? He tries to be helpful, makes an analysis made from points that had been stated already, but provokes discussion."

Back for a few minutes then I'll be gone like I originally thought.
So you're telling me that in FOUR DAYS you haven't thought any more about Virtu? I know Virtu hasn't been very active in those four days, but as town you should be constantly re-evaluating your reads on people. Did his coming back to vote make him look more townie or scummy to you? It may come from WIFOM, but you can still have an opinion on it. Your original post four days ago didn't satisfy me, and you just repeating the same information, even though there's new data available doesn't change anything.

Janaan

United States381 Posts

April 01 2012 19:36 GMT

#547

Where is everyone? We need all of us on board if we're gonna even have a chance to lynch scum today.

In keeping with my prior suspcions, I'll be voting

##Nova_Terra

Between the 3 suspects (Nova, Virtu, BlueyD) I really think he is most likely to be scum.

Janaan

United States381 Posts

April 01 2012 19:37 GMT

#548

EBWOP: Helps if I put the vote: in there....

Vote: ##Nova_Terra

Janaan

United States381 Posts

April 01 2012 19:38 GMT

#549

....I'm a dumb. Last time, I promise.

##Vote: Nova_Terra

Janaan

United States381 Posts

April 02 2012 04:19 GMT

#571

GG all. Fun 2 days of playing.

Janaan

United States381 Posts

April 02 2012 23:27 GMT

#584

i'm curious what people think of my hard bussing strategy. It could have backfired pretty hard, but it seemed like the best way to guarantee that we'd get a mislynch, whether it happened that day, or the next day phase (if myself or Nova got lynched, the other would look more town automatically). Did it actually make sense to do, or was my thinking off?

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