Eventually. As of right now, he's no danger to the town. His roleclaim has told us that we don't really need to listen to him, and now that we have his death-flavor/whatever, we'll know when he kills people. If he starts killing townies, we lynch him. Otherwise, I think we should leave him alone and concentrate on finding people who are a threat to the town.

ghost_403

United States1825 Posts

March 17 2012 15:55 GMT

#497

Just my thoughts on the Wheatly role:

I'm not ever going to trust Wheatly. IIRC, Wheatly screws over Chell in Portal 2 by taking control of Aperture, despite his best intentions. I can see this going the same way. Wheatly begins the game by helping the town, then gets a new wincon where he has to kill us all or something.

ghost_403

United States1825 Posts

March 17 2012 16:13 GMT

#503

Drazerk never had to claim. Clearly, he didn't think that he was a threat to the town, at least for the time being. Focusing on lynching him out of the game right now is counterproductive. Today, we need to be more concerned about electing a Wheatly and finding a good lynch, rather than focus on some neutered third party.

##elect velinath because he seems to understand this.

ghost_403

United States1825 Posts

March 17 2012 16:30 GMT

#507

@JJ - I agree with you that Drazerk is a safe lynch, but I don't think it's optimal town play. Saying 16hrs into Day 1 that we should lynch a third party because it's safe discourages discussion about possible lynches. Because of that, even though you are right, I am going to say that I will not vote Drazerk today. Eventually, he will have to go, but as for right now we need to focus on scum.

As for your second point that a newb would be a safer Wheatly vote, I don't know how I feel about that. That just screams to the scum to push a newb on their team for the position, which makes then as dangerous, maybe even more dangerous, as a veteran. Right now, Velinath seems like a better option to me, but I reserve the right to change my vote is someone better comes to light.

ghost_403

United States1825 Posts

March 18 2012 02:22 GMT

#651

@sbrubbles - in one of the important posts from the sleeper cell game, it is stated that someone stole 5 portal guns. FYI.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=13516834

ghost_403

United States1825 Posts

March 18 2012 02:38 GMT

#653

Yeah, misread your post. I thought you said there wasn't more than one gun.

Someone care to detail the busdriver effect?

ghost_403

United States1825 Posts

March 18 2012 13:06 GMT

#680

I still don't think Drazerk is scum. By claiming his role, he's put a timer on himself. It's not a question of if we'll lynch him, it's a question of when. He's got until then to kill Gandalf and get out of the game. In addition, he's removed his ability to persuade the town on any votes. We're not going to listen to him. At best, he's third party.

Drazerk is a safe lynch. Let's leave him alone for the time being, and focus on finding scum.

I'm going to take a minute or two to read up and weigh in on a Dirk lynch.

ghost_403

United States1825 Posts

March 18 2012 13:13 GMT

#681

I think we could do a lot worse than lynching Dirk. He's either a lazy/useless townie or scum. I'm running out the door at the moment, so I'll put some more thought into it when I get back.

ghost_403

United States1825 Posts

March 18 2012 16:38 GMT

#722

Sigh.

I try to lynch insane play, and it turns out he's a townie. (last game)

I try not to lynch insane play, and he admits to being scum.

Just can't win.

##vote: Drazerk

ghost_403

United States1825 Posts

March 18 2012 16:45 GMT

#728

@draz - You said earlier you needed five items to cross the rift back into wherever the fuck it is you came from. Now, you tell us you gave away all your items to scum. According to you, that's playing against your wincon. Either you're a liar, or scum who knows he's going to get lynched. Either way, I'm okay with lynching you today.

ghost_403

United States1825 Posts

March 19 2012 20:13 GMT

#1137

I leave you guys alone for 20hrs, and now I gotta read 10 pages.

brb

ghost_403

United States1825 Posts

March 19 2012 20:59 GMT

#1140

A quick note for Nisani and Maverick: There was no good reason for me to post on why I though Dirk was scummy when I got back. When I returned to the thread, Draz had gone off the deepend, and needed to go IMO. When Draz was a neutral third party, I didn't see the point in offing him; he's just going to sit around and ignore us for the most part. Then, he tells us that he's starting to help the sleeper cell. That's when he changed from neutral to dangerous, and that's why I switched a vote.

As far as my thoughts on Dirk: not impressed, but not ready to lynch him. A few of his posts have been aggressive and poorly thought out. For example, this one, where he says we should lynch anyone who was not immediately on board the Draz lynch. That's terrible play for a lot of reasons. Right now, I'm leaning stupid aggressive townie as opposed to scum, but I'm willing to change my positions if he does something really stupid. If he got vig'd, I'd say no big loss.

ghost_403

United States1825 Posts

March 19 2012 23:27 GMT

#1165

An interesting flip. Saw the Gonzaw one coming a mile away. I think it's safe to assume at this point that Kanti has the stabilizer whatever.

Velinath, were you the one to get the security camera? What's it do?

Also, I thought there was supposed to be "full role reveal on death" ie no flip.

Hosts, is this actually a no flip game?

Also, can we update the OP with the correct time?

ghost_403

United States1825 Posts

March 19 2012 23:27 GMT

#1166

FUCK SCREWED UP THE COLOR CODES WHATEVER

My bad

ghost_403

United States1825 Posts

March 19 2012 23:30 GMT

#1170

I was just shocked he admitted to having the rift stabilizer. After the Draz flip, it was pretty obvious that a couple of people, and maybe scum, would want it.