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Jitsu
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Red's unvote of Tyrran gives me that 'passing the buck' sort of vibe. Similar to "LOL, SEE GUYS!? HE POSTED IT WAS JUST TO PRESSURE VOTE HIM! LOLJIGISUP." Come on, bro. To add to the discussion; i'm definitely not a follower of the Policy Lynch based on Meta. I think it's bullshit - not in the sense that it doesn't work, but in the sense that one player can't change their play style from game to game. I know my first game (Election) was drastically different from my second (Newbie?) because I wanted to play it differently. That being said, all of the shit Red is being accused of by VE is all based on shit that has happened this game. Going to take a shower, then read Red's filter through. Also, while we are on the discussion of Policy, I hate liars, unless there is a clear and logical reason to do so (blue prolonging his anonymity, ect.) and anyone lying should be 100% held accountable for the actions they decided to run with. Does anyone in anyway disagree with this, and if so, why? Sup chaoser. | ||
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On February 21 2012 10:33 chaoser wrote: yes. i take it back, i misread. I dunno why WBG is buddying me though. I think I'm playing decently well though, but I think you're doing better (aka I think you're townine ATM). This screams at me. Not too hot, not too cold, but luke warm. And this isn't the only time you are staying "luke warm." What's with all the apologies and filler? I think people, by now, would know that there is a voting thread. You obviously thought it was a good idea to get the ball rolling by going with redFF on a "policy lynch" vote. What was YOU'RE reasoning to do it? Bugs. In the period of two pages, you go from calling out VE for sucking, and telling him to stfu, to saying that he doesn't suck anymore. wat. | ||
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On February 22 2012 01:49 Toadesstern wrote: I haven't read those games but thanks I'll take a look at those. That's the reason I posted what redFF quoted. If you got a nice example game of BC being mafia that'd be nice as well I only saw him play in L and that 80-ish player thing were he obviously had to change his style a little bit to get to the new guys as well. Well I've got my thoughts about you two but I don't know what to make of them yet so I thought waiting a little longer to post something that actually might be useful is better than just posting a oneliner every now and then saying "well that looks odd". But yeah I kind of agree with you, I had the feeling he's dodging a little bit when VE asked him earlier on. VE was clearly overdoing it early on and I don't think mafia-BC would have troubles thinking of something to say so although I agree with you that it looks weird I don't think it's scummy yet. My thought was that he doesn't want to encourage people tunneling so early on. And as mentioned I'm not feeling comfortable judging you two yet so I'd rather not lynch one of you two guys. I'd also rather not lynch into vets d1 but considering how stacked this game is it's probably a dangerous thing to say that for someone like me :p So you have you're thoughts on them, but you aren't comfortable judging them? What happened to the Arkham Toad, where you we're going accusation crazy, IIRC. | ||
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Toad. Why so passive. | ||
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On February 21 2012 18:44 Dirkzor wrote: [...] I see no scummyness from Chaoser's town read on VE. Other people have done similarly things in this game. But chaoser as a whole is a bit flip floppy... You go from seeing chaoser as a bit flip-floppy On February 22 2012 02:39 Dirkzor wrote: [...] If I had to point at one player to lynch it would be chaoser. His post are just a wee bit to "jumping whoever everyone else think is scum" for me. He seems overly defensive. Can't make a real case since I'm at work. To feeling that he would be a sufficient lynch. I can assume that you make him out as Mafia. I'll expect a case when you get out of work. | ||
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On February 22 2012 05:18 Dirkzor wrote: Oh right... you asked about that... I just didn't answer because it was a stupid question. The first 3 posts was bad. And i said they were. That was the critisism. Nothing more. I was trying to be sarcastic but i clearly failed. What about my question? On February 22 2012 02:51 Jitsu wrote: You go from seeing chaoser as a bit flip-floppy To feeling that he would be a sufficient lynch. I can assume that you make him out as Mafia. I'll expect a case when you get out of work. For reference. | ||
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Dirkzor Cool case, brah. Would it be ok to say that chaoser is a red read to you, then? If not, who then? | ||
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As for you - one part troll, one part unenthusiastic, add a dash of the possibility of scum, shake and serve on ice. I'm voting Dirkzor. ##vote Dirkzor | ||
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On February 22 2012 11:49 DoctorHelvetica wrote: He made one okay point therefore we shouldn't lynch him? I agree with it too. That doesn't mean anything really. BC is way better than this. He's playing negatively, passively, he's criticizing others for not contributing past the PL discussion but offers nothing to the thread himself. Yeah, RedFF could be faking it and the fact that he hasn't said a role name yet makes me suspect but I feel way stronger about BC with that last post of his now. The fact that I had the same idea is less about me agreeing with it and more about having the same train of thought. Did you read L? Everyone was making the same case about him in L, saying how he was causing more chaos then good, especially with revealing his role. Not comfortable with lynching him at this point. I could get down with a Dirkzor lynch. - non-committal early on, staying out of the spotlight for the most part. - says that chaoser is curious because he is "flippy floppy" - On February 21 2012 18:44 Dirkzor wrote: RedFF's fast unvote of Tyrran was weird after he had pushed and defended his policy lynch so much. Kita's vote on (policy?) Tyrran while attacking Toad for defending Tyrran while attacking RedFF for his history regarding policy lynches and then unvoting Tyrran to vote RedFF is weird. Don't know what I should think about it. I like that you can argue with someone while still having the same opinion but this just looks way to double sided. I see no scummyness from Chaoser's town read on VE. Other people have done similarly things in this game. But chaoser as a whole is a bit flip floppy... This post makes just about zero sense to me. It's more of the same, with a bit of confusion as well. If I wanted to post something to make it look like a contribution, this would be it. - says he can't wrap his head around this game, then two posts later, claims chaoser as his primary scumread, and adds a [weak] case about how chaoser is scum. - doesn't even vote for chaoser, even though it's his target. Something is up. ##vote Dirkzor | ||
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On February 23 2012 05:15 Toadesstern wrote: oh crap it's actually only 1:50hours until deadline oO Yeah totally voting BC right now, I had the balls to vote BC for mayor in GM's game although everyone said it's way too dangerous to vote and I'm having the balls to lynch him today. With this stacked of a set-up my "don't lynch vets d1"-rule really isn't an option. In 20-something games with 4 to 6 vets I still think it's good to not lynch into that but there's no possibility to think about that in this game. Did this catch anyone else's eye, or am I seeing shit. When was it implied that the set-up was stacked? I know Palmar said the Set-Up was "hard,"...but "stacked" is another thing all together. Stacked would imply you have a knowledge as to the ratio of faction to another faction. Viscera, how sure are you on BC? | ||
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I can't support a BC vote switch this late, especially with the last few vote switches. I think red has acted in a much more anti-town manner then BC. | ||
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Hard set-up indeed... | ||
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I'd like to echo youre sentiments in what you just said. I was on the point between oting for red and BC. My rationale, although possibly misguided, made sense. BC was being pushed hard for what I see as s subpar case. His meta is off this game? The fuck? You want to lynch someone for that over the that was caused in the beginning of the game, be my guest. That was part of th reason I voted for red, because, from my point of view, shit he was saying was a detriment to the town. It's possible he was a blue; but as stated before, Its also possible he would have similar powers in a red alignment as well. I think the fact that town was so disorganized at end leads me to believe that mafia was doing a decent job of blowing smoke p towns ass and running smokescreens. I personally think that mafia was trying to push for the BC lynch, causing a misslynch on someone that is an arguably very strong town player. That, along with some of what BC was saying near the deadline made me switch to red. I'm going back tonight and tomorrow to look at some of the people pushing strong for a BC lynch, and looking through that shit again. | ||
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Especially the part where he makes a huge post based on the perception that Chaoser is lying, and then doesn't even vote him. If he thought he was actually scum, I feel he would have voted for him. But to build a case on someone and then not even be willing to get him lynched, let alone feel pressure? Come on, bro. That lack of flip is making me WIFOM everything. Literally. I think that the no-flip was triggered by a role. Obviously the no-flip application is only really beneficial to the mafia side, so I can't decide whether they did it to hide the fact that he actually wasn't a tracker blue. The other thing in my head is that the mafia is trying to hide an attempted early bus on him, and because of the failed vote switch to BC, they needed to throw suspicion off that person. I can't think of any other motivations for the mafia to block the flip like that. There is always the possibility that it's a mechanic, but, as stated earlier, I don't think it's possible. Risk.nuke, where ya at, brah. You still think I should be lynched? You said it mid-day through Day1, and BH tacked onto the attack with you, and since then, you just dipped off the radar. At the time, you obviously thought that I was mafia, else you wouldn't push for my lynch, right? Along the way, where did you disregard you're gut feeling on me? | ||
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On February 24 2012 06:42 Toadesstern wrote: How should mafia know if he really is a blue tracker or not? Unless redFF is mafia himself mafia won't know his role and therefore the first statement is probably not a possibility or at least not the reason they did it. I really still think it's either a 3rd party power or something like a role who dies when lynched but flips a day later. I can't recall what that role was called right now. Yeah mafia somehow hiding the flips is possibly but pretty unlikely, why should they do that if it's a 1-shot power? So either a townie who flips the next day or a some weird 3rd party shit. I doubt they bussed redFF. You mis-interpreted what I was saying. redFF claims blue role to try to get our votes off of him. redFF is actually mafia fake-claiming. We lynch redFF anyway. Mafia proceeds to shit themselves, and bury the results so that we are left to assume he was truthful in his claim. I think that it's a feasible conclusion. On February 24 2012 06:37 Blazinghand wrote: No comments on me all game huh Jitsu what you got to hide What do you want me to comment on? The fact that you are playing like garbage? | ||
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