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Palmar
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Palmar
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On January 17 2012 05:20 VisceraEyes wrote: Red I'm literally going to vote you off on Policy regardless of my alignment if half of your posts are going to be reaction gifs and pictures. Post using words, not ironic humor please. Pictures tell nothing of your alignment and only serve to clutter up the thread. I find his images a much greater contribution to the thread than the standard VE post. | ||
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Palmar
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As some people may have noticed I've been really busy lately, so the only reason I actually decided to play a game (I meant to not sign up for anything after L (also originally a PM game) really, until my schedule clears up), is the fact I thought I could just chill around in IRC/Skype and kinda play the game in the background. So with no PMs in the game, it's basically just another game. I have no problem with seeing that the majority of players don't like PMs so I'm perfectly okay with you changing it. It does however mean that I'm /out Again, I'm sorry for promising to play but then outing, and this is not some ploy to get you to change your mind on removing the PMs. I just don't have the time and energy to play a normal post-based game. Good luck with your game, and good luck to the players. | ||
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>manhood brag here< | ||
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I suggest we kill Bugs, he's good as scum and bad as town. | ||
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On January 26 2012 18:45 wherebugsgo wrote: The only way I'm going to die this game is if I get shot by scum. Why would you shoot yourself? | ||
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On January 27 2012 02:10 Jackal58 wrote: So tell me Mr. Lone Ranger how exactly do you intend to send your vote? I'm gonna send it to whoever I think is town. | ||
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It's so scummy you're probably town. | ||
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On January 27 2012 03:22 VisceraEyes wrote: Why is Paper's plan so scummy dude? If we all circle-jerk the votes, then we can see without a doubt whether or not the scums have vote-manipulation powers and ideally how they work. What makes Paper scummy for suggesting a system under which we'll be able to glean information regarding the setup? It's ok, you're scum too. | ||
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But you already know that don't you? | ||
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On January 27 2012 16:45 VisceraEyes wrote: I'm going to be honest - I'm also starting to think Palmar is town, but it's not based on a belief that I think he's acting scummy to test reactions. It could be, but that's not why. I think Palmar is town based almost exclusively on the fact that scummy players like Paperscraps are defending the way he's playing. That's at best terrible, at worst scummy way of thinking. You cannot deduce anything about my alignment from how other people interact with me. | ||
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Palmar
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Mafia is about making choices. Much more than you can deduce from reading someone's posts and checking if they're doing scummy stuff, you can hold them accountable for their actions. You need to understand the reasoning behind why people do what they do. What this plan does is remove responsibility. Instead of using analysis and logic to assign our vote, everyone simply gives their vote to whoever they have a town read on. You should keep who you vote for to yourself until the next day, at which point everyone should claim to whom they gave the vote, and why. Giving votes has the potential to give us information. If a player gives his vote to someone on weak reasoning, or if the player receiving the vote is very likely to be mafia (or at some point flips mafia), we have a reason to investigate that player, based on his actions. Suggesting we remove the tool of analyzing how and why people give their votes away is terrible. It's anti-town and it should not happen. If we follow a circle-jerk plan, we remove this aspect of the game, we give mafia a free pass, and a guarantee that they will not lose any voting power. I would hate to be in a situation as scum if I had two options: a) Lose some voting power. b) Make a case as to why I think a scumbuddy is town. That's seriously scary if you're mafia. I mean, good mafia players will have no problem cooking up a good case, but good mafia players are hard to catch anyway. Apply some brain power, reap rewards. It's very likely the most town looking people will be protected by medics, providing an even further deterrence for mafia from shooting them. Remember, mafia has to give 4 votes away tonight. It takes 4 townies having the strongest read on scum as town, to balance that out, or otherwise the mafia has to make cases as to why they think their scumbuddies are town. That's hard to do. do you actually think we're so bad that we can't handle this? I guess the fact that the circle jerk plan got any support at all answers my question though. | ||
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Palmar
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What this plan does is remove responsibility. Instead of using analysis and logic to assign our vote, everyone simply gives their vote to whoever they have a town read on. I meant to say: What this plan does is remove responsibility, instead of using analysis and logic to assign our vote. Everyone should simply give their vote to whoever they have a town read on. funny how punctuation can fuck up a sentence. | ||
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On January 27 2012 19:22 Paperscraps wrote: You are contradicting yourself. You have little faith in us, think we are bad, and think we should die, yet want us to go with the system in which requires the most brain power. Either we are competent or not. You can't have it both ways. It is a big risk to give votes to who we "think" is the most pro-town person on N1, because we can't be sure of any of our reads. Being 100% sure of anything is impossible for a townie. Optimal play is to do what I just said. I don't care if I think half of town is bad. Just prove me wrong. | ||
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