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[Interview] Jaedong and Bisu

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rotinegg
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States1719 Posts
December 13 2011 22:22 GMT
#1
Update3:: Part 2 is done
Update2:: Part 2 is in the works! Hope to have it done soon
Update:: Here is the photo album associated with the interview. Thanks e_i_pi_1_0! (He was also the one that suggested I translate this interview via PM in the first place)

(Z)Jaedong and (P)Bisu's Very Special Encounter (Part 1)

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Recently, it became a hot issue that even Super Junior's Kyuhyun wanted [Jaedong and Bisu] to become friends. The two progamers' relationship has not only garnered attention from their fans, but also celebrities. Unlike other players in TBLS, which includes the four best SC players of this generation, Jaedong and Bisu were never good friends. Eventually, it got to the point where fans of e-sports started a movement wanting them to become friends.

Were their prayers about to be answered? Thanks to Super Junior's Kyuhyun, who facilitated their meeting, the two were able to become closer. By now rumor has it that the two have become close enough to meet up and talk about their lives. The two bragged that they chatted over Kakao-tok [free txting app] even on the day of the interview, showing that their non-progaming life was intact and as alive as ever.

On the day of the interview, Jaedong was the first to arrive at Shinsa Dong's Garosu Street. He sheepishly apologized and said he had to make a call for about 10 minutes, saying that "(T)Lomo is going off to the military today." We had already received word that Bisu was going to be a little late, and Jaedong seemed relieved when we told him he could take his time.

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While looking through the menu of the outdoors restaurant we had chosen, Jaedong said, "I like Korean food better" and didn't seem enticed by what the menu had to offer. We had chosen the restaurant because there is no room for photography in Korean restaurants. Jaedong smiled and said, "I'm still young but I like old-people food like Gookbab and Soondae-Gook [traditional food with lots of broth. Look them up if curious: 국밥, 순대국] In the end, he chose a dish of pasta and resumed texting with Lomo while waiting for Bisu to arrive.

10 minutes later, Bisu arrived, and Jaedong greeted him. They didn't seem awkward like before. In fact, we felt awkward seeing them act friendly towards each other. They seemed to have forgotten that this was an interview and chatted between themselves. It's a pity that a lot of what was said was NSFW and can't be published here.

Unlike Jaedong, who took his time choosing his dish, Bisu picked something right away. He chose the most expensive steak dish. He said, "I know you journalists are rich" and innocently ate away at his filet mignon. I know that a lot of progamers have little knowledge of wages outside of the progaming world, but was Bisu really that oblivious, or was he just pretending to be so he could eat his steak with a clear conscience?

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When asked how he would like his steak, Bisu said "appetizing," and caused people to burst out in laughter. He told the troubled waiter to make it "decently tender with some pink." The manner in which he spoke was truly Bisu-esque [T/N: Bisu gets a lot of flak for talking like a...Forrest Gump].

This interview almost didn't happen. Team8's Coach Joo mistakenly told Jaedong that the interview was the day after and Jaedong had relayed that message to Bisu. Bisu, upon receiving the text, went back to sleep. Fortunately, we were able to connect with Coach Joo in time so that Jaedong and Bisu could make it on time. Through this, we were able to conclude that the two text each other, putting an end to the myriad of questions from fans asking whether they communicate outside of SC.

In the past, when the two were together, their awkwardness made people next to them feel even more awkward, but now it got to the point where it was difficult to conduct the interview because the two wouldn't stop talking. They were busy catching up with each others' lives. I guess it's safe to say they are now good friends.

We now take you into the relatively little known world of Jaedong and Bisu's friendship.

DES=This is your first official interview since joining Team8. How does it feel.

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JD=It's so much fun. The MBC Game players are very funny in particular (laughs).
Bisu=They were always a bunch of loud-mouthed kids (laughs).
JD=(Z)Alone said SKTelecom T1 is no fun because you guys just practice in silence.
Bisu=He did? Well I guess there's some truth to that (laughs).
JD=I guess it's hard for us to be comfortable at another team's practice facilities because our team hasn't had much of a chance to hang out with other teams.
Bisu=In that regard I think it's good that a lot of MBC Game players joined Team8, because they are fun to be around (laughs).
JD=(T)Sea and (P)Tyson take a keen interest in me. They're always saying stuff like 'Let's see how god Jaedong practices' or 'WWJD=What would Jaedong do?' [T/N: liberally translated] It took me a while but now I'm used to it (laughs).
Bisu=I can imagine what it would be like (laughs).

DES=Many people are curious why it took you two so long to become friends.

JD=We just never had a chance to (laughs).
Bisu=We weren't awkward; we just didn't know each other.
JD=Being awkward and unacquainted are two different things (laughs).
Bisu=I guess personality played a role, too. We both open up to our friends and speak comfortably, but can't talk to people we aren't close with. Also, we wait for others to reach out to us first. Since both of us are like that, it took us a lot of time to become friends. Also (P)Stork and (T)Flash are on Bnet a lot, so I get to talk to them, but Jaedong is never on (laughs).
JD=It's true that I rarely go on Bnet (laughs)

DES=What did you think when you heard Super Junior's Kyuhyun had set up a meeting for you two.

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JD=I wanted to use this opportunity to become friends with Bisu so I could put an end to all the fans saying we are awkward once and for all.
Bisu=Of course I was excited.
JD=You make it sound like a homo-erotic date (laughs).
Bisu=Excited in a strictly platonic way (laughs).
JD=Bisu wasn't able to drink that much that day. He had to practice early the next day. So I was the only one drinking (laughs).
Bisu=Jaedong is a tank. I was shocked.
JD=I don't have a high tolerance; I just withstand the effects with my mental abilities. In fact you have a higher tolerance than I do.
Bisu=I was pretty shy the first day but Jaedong didn't seem very shy.
JD=It would be a disservice [to Kyuhyun] to act shy at a place like that. So I decided to reach out first.
Bisu=It worked.

DES=Bisu is ahead in head-to-head's. A lot of fans have been asking about that.

Bisu=I knew they would ask that. I was hoping you would be smart enough to filter those questions.
JD=It's alright. It's true that I lost a lot.
Bisu=When I play against Jaedong, I have good luck for some reason. I sometimes think 'if everything worked out as well as when I play Jaedong, I would never lose.' I seriously have no idea why.
Jaedong=On the contrary, nothing works for some odd reason when I play against Bisu. My strategies get deflected and I can't even manage my own units. I often feel like I'm under a spell (laughs).
Bisu=But I know that Jaedong is really good. I have a secret that nobody else knows.
JD=Secret? What secret?
Bisu=I said it's a secret (laughs).

DES=It's the 3-year anniversary edition interview. Say it.

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Bisu=Recently I was playing on a server where a lot of progamers frequent, and I went 0-10 against this one player. I thought he was really good and guessed it was either Jaedong or (Z)ZerO. I just couldn't beat him. He was too good. I thought that if this isn't Jaedong or Zero, our team must sign him immediately. I kept asking him who he was, but he wouldn't say. I was really curious, but then Alone came and said 'This is Jaedong's smurf account.' I was once again reminded of Jaedong's greatness.
JD=I had no idea that was you (laughs). But more importantly, I'm going to have a word with Alone for leaking such secrets (laughs).
Bisu=From that day on, I knew Jaedong was really good. I really couldn't think of a way to beat him at the time.
JD=You embarrass me. Why can't you lose to me like that in broadcasted matches (laughs).
Bisu=I get a surge of confidence when I know I'm playing against Jaedong for some reason (laughs).

DES=A lot of fans are curious whether you guys send text messages to each other.

Jaedong=We don't text.

DES=How do you communicate then?

Jaedong=Who sends texts these days? We chat on Kakao-tok (laughs). Seems like whoever asked that needs to get with the times (laughs).

DES=There was an interesting question that one of the fans asked. Who is the best Zerg and Protoss in you guys' opinion?

JD=What an ass (laughs).
Bisu=The best protoss in my opinion is...
JD=What's there to think about. Everybody knows it's you (laughs).
Bisu=I think results necessarily correlate to skill, so I choose (P)Nal_rA.
JD=I think Bisu. Even going off of your logic, you have more wins than him (laughs).
Bisu=I have never won an OSL and my last MSL win was 3 years ago. It doesn't feel right to say it's me.
JD= So convoluted (laughs).
Bisu=I think everybody would agree that Jaedong is the best zerg. But it's hard to say the same about me (laughs).
JD=I think I'm the best zerg at the moment. I have the most individual league wins and most wins in PL among zergs.
Bisu=I wish I could say the same about myself (laughs).

DES=What about each other are you most jealous of?

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Bisu=Individual league wins. You need extreme dedication to win, and Jaedong has that.
JD=I want to correct a common misconception here. I'm not always intense in life. I just get that when I play SC. I'm a really easy-going guy normally (laughs). For some reason I turn into another person when I play.
Bisu=Give me that other person you turn into then (laughs).
JD=I want his good looks and popularity. Of course I have a lot of fans who love me. But for me it's just within the progaming world. A lot of random girls come up to Bisu and ask for his number while drinking. He must have a lot of girls and I am jealous.
Bisu=Why are you doing this to me. There are a lot of rumors about you too (laughs). I have my sources too (laughs).
JD=Wait. Let's not do this to each other (laughs).
Bisu=You started it (laughs). And what's wrong with meeting girls (laughs).
JD=Please edit out what I just said (laughs).

Source: Daily E-sports

(Z)Jaedong and (P)Bisu's Very Special Encounter (Part 2)

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Jaedong and Bisu chatted away while time flew by. After revealing each others' dark secrets, they came to an agreement not to destroy their public image anymore. It was a let down for me who was just starting to enjoy the show, but they drew a line saying they can't commit social suicide for an interview.

However since the two were so close they opened up even without being asked. They would say something completely NSFW and add that "you can't publish this" together. I guess they really have become close friends.

Now we will once again delve into the world of Jaedong and Bisu's special encounter.

DES=Now you can just answer away at the fans' questions. Of course the more honest the better (laughs).

Bisu=I'm already scared I said too much; how can I be more honest!
JD=I agree. We just need to keep it totally SFW from now on.

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DES=Alright first question then. Whether you swear in front of a person is often used as a measure of friendliness; do you guys swear in front of each other?

JD=This is a tough one (laughs).
Bisu=I almost never swear (laughs). Jaedong hails from Kyungsang-Do so I think he would swear a lot. [Kyungsang people are known to be more passionate and rugged than people from Seoul]
JD=Still that doesn't mean I swear. I think I swore a lot to my Hwaseung teammates though (laughs). I guess you do swear after you get closer to someone (laughs).
Bisu=Let's keep our friendship right at this level then (laughs).
JD=But even my swearing is pleasant to listen to!

DES=How much can you drink.

JD=Bisu has a higher tolerance than I do.
Bisu=Wat. You're a liar.
JD=I make up for what I lack with my mental abilities (laughs).
Bisu=Shush, you drank like a tank that one time.
JD=No seriously I can't drink as much as you. You're known to be a beast.
Bisu=It's all a conspiracy (laughs).

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DES=If you had a younger sister would you introduce each other to her?

JD=If I had a younger sister I would control her from her school years right up until she married. I would not let her meet any guy and keep a keen eye on her. I'm not so sure how Bisu treats his women….
Bisu=I guess that's a no then (laughs).
JD=That's not what I meant, you definitely meet the bar. You're rich and handsome so you would be a hundred times better than an average guy off the street. I just meant I wouldn't let any guy near her if I had a sister.
Bisu=Well I guess I would have to say no, too (laughs). I feel like he would meet other women while seeing my sister (laughs). You know how successful guys tend to be (laughs).
JD=This is false (laughs). We agreed not to do this to ourselves!
Bisu=I was just talking about successful guys in general (laughs). If I get a younger sister, or a daughter, I'm going to set a strict curfew. Hearing about stories of people being sold off as slaves or being buried alive in secluded mountains in the news scares me so much. This world is not a kind place.
JD=So how are you going to make up for the damage you've done to my image (laughs).
Bisu=Again, I was talking about successful guys in general, not you specifically (laughs).

DES=You seem to have very different interests; for example, JD likes sports while Bisu doesn't.

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Bisu=It's a misconception. When I was on MBC Game I was good at soccer too. I just haven't played a lot since so my skills have stagnated. If we were to play I could show you that I'm good! There's not a lot of opportunities to play sports in our area and ever since (T)BoxeR left SKTelecom T1, nobody has actively promoted sporting events.
JD=I've been wanting to go hiking recently, but nobody wants to go so I am sad.
Bisu=I personally don't like mountains (laughs).
JD=So you do hate sports (laughs).
Bisu=I said I hate mountains (laughs).

DES=What were your first impressions of each other.

Bisu=I was scared (laughs). The force emanating from his facial expression was so manly that I was even a little jealous.
JD=I thought he was good looking. He is undeniably handsome (laughs).
Bisu=I can't agree with that sentiment. I personally think (T)RuBy is very good looking. He's also tall [Ruby is about 6'0.5" while Bisu is 5'9"].
JD=I can't talk about looks in front of Bisu. He is in another class.
Bisu=My face is more refined and sharp, while Jaedong has a softer appeal. At first I thought it was a very cutsie face but the more I see him the more he exudes a soft and manly charm.
JD=I personally love Bisu's laugh (laughs). People spell it out like 'Uh-hung-hung-hung' and I think it's very cute.
Bisu=I lost my laugh because people kept making fun of it.
JD=Why it's so cute!
Bisu=See. Even you're making fun of it (laughs).
JD=No seriously I'm not making fun of you, I think it's cute (laughs).

DES=One of the fans asked which part of your body you think is better than the other's.

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JD=I'm not sure if I have any (laughs). Now that I think about it I have minimal body fat. I work out consistently and maintain a healthy diet so I guess I may have better overall health (laughs).
Bisu=My eyes are prettier (laughs).

DES=What's most important: love, work or friendship?

Bisu=From a long time ago until now, ever since I was a progamer I think work came first.
JD=I've never experienced real love so I guess love comes last. I would also rank friendship over work. Friendship comes first!

DES=Any recent interests?

JD=Not outside of gaming. Oh, I've been watching a drama called 'I'm a Flower, Too!' Please everybody watch it. It's so much fun but isn't that popular. I'm so upset.
Bisu=I've been watching 'Man of Honor' recently.
JD=That's a competing show! Switch to 'I'm a Flower, Too' quickly. It just started!

DES=One of Jaedong's fans asked what it feels like to have a large male fan-base.

JD=I guess they aren't fans of me, but rather my games, right? (laughs). I think a lot of male fans joke around about being gay for me (laughs). [T/N: I hope he visits TL one day]
Bisu=I've never seen it but I guess it would be kind of creepy (laughs).
JD=I sometimes get fan-mail from male fans.
Bisu=Really? I've never.
JD=I assumed all progamers received fan-mail from male fans, but then I asked my Hwaseung teammates and they all said that they hadn't either. I guess you don't either.
Bisu=I don't even think there was ever a progamer around me that said that he received letters from male fans.
JD=Well I'm still thankful (laughs).

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DES=Is SC still fun?

JD=I guess the competition is more fun than the game itself. I enjoy competing, so I guess that's why a lot of people compliment my dedication and mental strength.
Bisu=For me the game itself is still fun enough.

DES=One of the fans asked Bisu about his future goals with regards to individual leagues.

Bisu=I want to win it and I must win it. I am trying my best.
JD=I think you put too much effort into preparing for PL matches. You won 63 games last season and that's pretty much a miracle. It's mind-blowing. But the fans don't give him enough credit for that and focus on his lack of results in individual leagues, and I feel really sorry. Every player is doing their best to perform, so I want to ask all the fans not to deride a player based on his individual league performance.

DES=Did any thing that was unexpected of the other person come up after becoming friends.

JD=Bisu is even more shy and timid than I first thought.
Bisu=I'm always reminded of how manly Jaedong is every time I see him.

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DES=One of the fans asked about your nose, Bisu; should we skip it? (laughs).

Jaedong=I personally don't think Bisu's nose is that big. It looks good on screen and he is really good looking in real life, too. There is a certain angle where he looks especially good, and whenever the camera man shows that angle I'm just awed by his looks. His nose isn't all that big when you see him in real life.
Bisu=I think it's better than having a nose that's too small (laughs).

DES=If Jaedong and Park Wan Gyu [T/N: Famous rock singer in Korea, big advocate of E-sports] were drowning, who would Bisu save?

Bisu=I can't swim so I would drown too if I tried (laughs). I would do my best to save both (laughs).
JD=I want to know what kind of logic prompted fans to ask this sort of question (laughs). I am so stumped when fans ask these sorts of questions (laughs).

DES=When do you plan on enlisting in the military?

JD=It's something that's always in the back of my mind. However I might not go to Airforce ACE. I haven't given it much thought yet so I will have a clearer answer when it's time.
Bisu=I will go when I am 29 (laughs). I will go when my skills deteriorate. Now that I think about it, I am curious when my skills will start to fade.

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DES=We are almost out of time. We will end the interview after parting words from each of you.

Bisu=I want Team8 to do well. It must be so difficult and stressful. Looking at Jaedong, I can sense the adversities that the team must have faced. I will pray that a good corporation picks up Team8.
JD=In order for that to happen, you need to do something. You need to lose when you're playing against us (laughs). Go easy for the sake of our team (laughs).
Bisu=Let's practice hard so we can face each other in the OSL finals this season.
JD=Yea let's. I want to produce awesome games on the biggest stage of e-sports.

Their heart-warming, hold-nothing-back interview ended like this. I wanted to hear more of what they had to say but they were both practicing hard in preparation of the season opener, so we were on a tight schedule. I hope to see both players at the highest of stages this season like they had promised each other.

After their interview, the players sent a brief message to Daily E-Sports in celebration of its 3 year anniversary.

JD, Bisu=We would like to congratulate DES for its third anniversary. I hope DES continues to grow as a publication and please include a lot of articles about us. I hope a lot of our fans visit DES, too (laughs). Please call us back for your fourth anniversary as well. DES fighting!

Source: Daily E-sports
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[F_]aths
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Germany3947 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-13 22:36:26
December 13 2011 22:31 GMT
#2
Just two guys in the picture, yet so much awesomeness. Bisu still so handsome, Jaedong still so gosu.

edit: They even debate who #1 Protoss and #1 Zerg is?
You don't choose to play zerg. The zerg choose you.
Kiett
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States7639 Posts
December 13 2011 22:32 GMT
#3
YES! Saw this last night but didn't have time to try and translate. I love youuu <3

It makes me so happy that they're finally close to each other now. A big thank you to Kyu, #1 matchmaker for making it happen! I'm really curious as to what all the NSFW talk was
Writer:o
e_i_pi_1_0
Profile Joined September 2009
933 Posts
December 13 2011 22:32 GMT
#4
Thanks so much for the translation! ^_^

It's nice to see them chat without being too awkward.

Wait, this was only the first part of the interview? Holy crap.
Jaedong and Hwaseung Oz fan.
Foolishness *
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States3044 Posts
December 13 2011 22:33 GMT
#5
Bisu <--> Forrest Gump

Thanks for translation!
geript: "Foolishness's cases are persuasive and reasonable but leave you feeling dirty afterwards. Kinda like a whore." ---- Manager of the TL Mafia forum, come play!
N.geNuity
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States5112 Posts
December 13 2011 22:33 GMT
#6
I wonder if they got closer through blizzcon vacation and hanging out there?

Anyways, too much handsome for one interview. It needed to be split up into 2.
iu, seungah, yura, taeyeon, hyosung, lizzy, suji, sojin, jia, ji eun, eunji, soya, younha, jiyeon, fiestar, sinb, jung myung hoon godtier. BW FOREVERR
Saechiis
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Netherlands4989 Posts
December 13 2011 22:34 GMT
#7
Lol, thx for this.

Looking forward to part two!
I think esports is pretty nice.
xlat
Profile Joined August 2010
176 Posts
December 13 2011 22:36 GMT
#8
WWJD?
Pose like a boss in his leather jacket!

Thanks for the translation!
Mumei
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States257 Posts
December 13 2011 22:36 GMT
#9
It does seem like Jaedong is practice bonjwa against Bisu - there were a couple interviews earlier where Bisu said that Jaedong had won all of their practice games on one occasion, and another where he said he struggled to beat Jaedong (I think something to do with Jaedong practicing for matches against Kal)....

And yet in broadcast games, he's 1 - 7 against Bisu since the Averatec-Intel Classic Special Match.
fabiano
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Brazil4644 Posts
December 13 2011 22:36 GMT
#10

Unlike Jaedong, who took his time choosing his dish, Bisu picked something right away. He chose the most expensive steak dish. He said, "I know you journalists are rich" and innocently ate away at his filet mignon. I know that a lot of progamers have little knowledge of wages outside of the progaming world, but was Bisu really that oblivious, or was he just pretending to be so he could eat his steak with a clear conscience?


bwahahah LOL

Bisu always delivers
"When the geyser died, a probe came out" - SirJolt
RelZo
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Hungary397 Posts
December 13 2011 22:38 GMT
#11
OMGOMGOMG thanks for the translation! This is pure awesome, and lol at JD wanting Bisu's looks haha
a choboling
sammy5222000
Profile Joined January 2011
United States44 Posts
December 13 2011 22:40 GMT
#12
this is sooo funny lolololols,
imo bisu is the best protoss
ZoW
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States3983 Posts
December 13 2011 22:45 GMT
#13
maybe this will create some harmony between the Bisu and JD fans on TL.

Oh who am I kidding we would still slash each others throats in a heartbeat
the courage to be a lazy bum
rotinegg
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States1719 Posts
December 13 2011 22:46 GMT
#14
On December 14 2011 07:45 ZoW wrote:
maybe this will create some harmony between the Bisu and JD fans on TL.

Oh who am I kidding we would still slash each others throats in a heartbeat

I dunno I'm a JD and Bisu fan; I would gladly root for both. I would slash a flash fan's throat in a heartbeat though :p
Translator
legaton
Profile Joined December 2010
France1763 Posts
December 13 2011 22:46 GMT
#15
Jaedong has a nice leather jacket
No GG, No Skill - Jaedong <3
Pvvned
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States405 Posts
December 13 2011 22:48 GMT
#16
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Must've saw a girl with a nice ass walk by.
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valaki
Profile Joined June 2009
Hungary2476 Posts
December 13 2011 22:49 GMT
#17

Bisu=Recently I was playing on a server where a lot of progamers frequent, and I went 0-10 against this one player. I thought he was really good and guessed it was either Jaedong or ZerO. I just couldn't beat him. He was too good. I thought that if this isn't Jaedong or Zero, our team must sign him immediately. I kept asking him who he was, but he wouldn't say. I was really curious, but then Alone came and said 'This is Jaedong's smurf account.' I was once again reminded of Jaedong's greatness.
JD=I had no idea that was you (laughs). But more importantly, I'm going to have a word with Alone for leaking such secrets (laughs).
Bisu=From that day on, I knew Jaedong was really good. I really couldn't think of a way to beat him at the time.



Lmao so good, thanks.
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Kiante
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Australia7069 Posts
December 13 2011 22:49 GMT
#18
i want to buy bisu and jaedong food at a restraunt and interview them

time to get started on my career path of korean esports journalist!
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Mumei
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States257 Posts
December 13 2011 22:52 GMT
#19
On December 14 2011 07:48 Pvvned wrote:Must've saw a girl with a nice ass walk by.


Alternate interpretation:

They were looking at each other.

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rotinegg
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States1719 Posts
December 13 2011 22:53 GMT
#20
oh god not this again... it took less than a page of replies for TL's rampant homosexuality to permeate this thread
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