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I'd like to apologize to the Foreign BW community.

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NotJumperer
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
United States1371 Posts
December 11 2011 16:10 GMT
#1
--- Nuked ---
Sayle
Profile Joined October 2010
United Kingdom3685 Posts
December 11 2011 16:11 GMT
#2
Now I feel bad
brachester
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Australia1786 Posts
December 11 2011 16:27 GMT
#3
uhh, don't feel too bad on yourself man. Hope u'll get better.
I hate all this singing
538
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Hungary3932 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-11 16:28:32
December 11 2011 16:27 GMT
#4
I wouldn't worry about it man, you stepped up when the team needed you (Gotunk arrived late, Koll didn't want to play the map, and the circumstances you mentioned made you a good candidate indeed) - you shouldn't feel bad about not being able to kill the guy who went on to all-kill the entire foreign all-stars team. I understand it can be very frustrating to not play up to your potential, and it's something for which it can be hard to forgive yourself, but I'm sure everybody else forgave you already.

I'm more upset about the league format being single-elimination, it was a great and unique experience to root for a foreigner team. Here's to hoping we'll get invited to more such events in the future!
BW fighting!
valaki
Profile Joined June 2009
Hungary2476 Posts
December 11 2011 16:28 GMT
#5
Nah your condition wasn't 100% and a korean is a korean. Shit happens all the time.
ggaemo fan
ExceeD_DreaM
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Canada500 Posts
December 11 2011 16:31 GMT
#6
Seeing how that random dude all killed the team (As I have said million times would happen...), i don't think bringing A game would have helped much either. He certainly wasn't a 1300 Terran. So don't feel too bad and take it as a lesson learned! You know, success sprouts from mistakes.
Chef
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
10810 Posts
December 11 2011 16:31 GMT
#7
I think you are being way harder on yourself than anyone else is. Shit happens. Lesson learned. Apply it next time you get a chance. Don't be so dramatic.
LEGEND!! LEGEND!!
Sawamura
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Malaysia7602 Posts
December 11 2011 16:34 GMT
#8
On December 12 2011 01:10 Jumperer wrote:
I couldn't sleep so I have to write this thread expressing my feelings and thoughts regarding the recent Super Clan League shellacking.

First of all, I'm very sorry for my terrible performance. Looking back, I shouldn't have played at all. I did not really practice for this tournament given how the game starts at 4 A.M. my time. In fact, I didn't even remember it was today.

So why did I played? Well, here is the story. I randomly logs on TL.net at 4 AM and saw that sayle was streaming the event. I saw a korean terran barely beating the hungarian zerg god sziky. The next map was on bloody ridge. Game/pholon was going to send koll however koll doesn't want to play bloody ridge. So I asked the team organizer if I could play and they gave me a go. My condition wasn't 100%. Hell, it was probably not even 80%. However, I'm not the type of person to back down from any challenges. PvT is by far my best matchup, I routinely destroy 1300+ T koreans on fish early game, mid game, late game, it doesn't matter.

I knew I wasn't feeling that well, but I just came straight off an epic gambit cup victory so my confidence was high. I intended to cheese the hell out of this terran by doing the build Stork did against Flash. I thought that as long as I could micro and hit 4d5d6d7d then I could win. How hard could it be? Dragoon is my second favorite unit and it's the unit that I control the best out of all the units in starcraft.

Unexpectedly, I was extremely nervous at the beginning of the game and all throughout. THIS DOESN'T HAPPEN. I spoke on a stage in front of 200 people before and I wasn't nervous. I played for the USA national team, no nerve. I played the ace match for gambit cup after my team came back from 0-3 down and I wasn't nervous.

But this game wasn't just for me. This game wasn't just for a team. This game wasn't just for the entire nation. It's bigger than that. Here I am representing the entire foreigner scene. Past, present, and future. I also took someone's spot, someone who probably practiced their ass off for this tournament. That adds to the pressure. I was selected to show the koreans what the non koreans are capable off. These games are bigger than the ISL finals because you are in a situation and in a game where it could possibly never happen again. To understand how big this series was. Well, there was no team, there was no race, there was no nationality. EVERYONE IS UNITED AS ONE AND EVERYONE WANTS YOU TO WIN. There was no zerg whining about storm. no sas player rooting against LRM player. This is the followship of the ring and we are here to destroys the damn ring.

Unfortunately, I didn't realize how big the game really is until it started. My condition was poor and my hands were shaking. I skipped pylons, I skipped probes, I skipped units. 3 of my goons freezed when I attacked. I had no multitask ability. My goons melt and I left the game.

I've never felt so angry at myself for playing so poorly. I let not only myself down, but EVERYONE. The team had great momentum from sziky's games and I sapped everything out of it. and for that, I'd like to apologize to everyone, especially bakuryu who didn't even get to play and sayle for having to cast the terrible game.

As a result, I'm taking 2 weeks break from SC. This defeat was painful for me personally and I'm going to need sometime to recover from it. once again I'm truly sorry for letting everyone down.


You shouldn't be hard on yourself jumperer , you thought you can lend in your experience and skills and yet thing's didn't go the way you wanted and stuff like that happen's . Please do not feel that you have disappointed the whole foreign community as we are not here to judge you , but i will be disappointed if you don't come back after the second week from your break as I expect you to dominate again .

Please come back stronger jumperer , if you want to do it do it for yourself and when you think about it that way, some how you will find that you are much more stronger in executing the thing's that you want to do rather than having the whole weight of foreign community on your shoulder..
BW/KT Forever R.I.P KT.Violet dearly missed ..
FlaShFTW
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States10470 Posts
December 11 2011 16:34 GMT
#9
dont be so hard on yourself. keep you head up and just think that you can beat anyone in your path. its ok man, really, dont beat yourself up.
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LRM)nOoNe
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States231 Posts
December 11 2011 16:36 GMT
#10
2 weeks break... usa has nation wars quarterfinals yo...
Vuk_91
Profile Joined September 2010
Serbia1690 Posts
December 11 2011 16:37 GMT
#11
1. Shit happens, 2.Koreans are Koreans,even if you won that game they would have won 100%, 3.Again,shit happens,just move on and don`t think about it.
Navane
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Netherlands2757 Posts
December 11 2011 16:38 GMT
#12
Don't beat yourself up. You even made him build two rax the next game. We'll do better next time!
Trezeguet
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States2656 Posts
December 11 2011 16:42 GMT
#13
You messed up, don't make it bigger than it already is. (for the community and for yourself)
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES51072 Posts
December 11 2011 16:46 GMT
#14
don't beat yourself up, you'll do better the next time opportunity presents itself.
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
LML
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
Germany1792 Posts
December 11 2011 16:48 GMT
#15
poor jumper>_>'
don't be so harsh, and don't stop for 2weeks, what..?
LML
Bakuryu
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Germany1065 Posts
December 11 2011 16:56 GMT
#16
dont worry about me not playing^^ atleast u got experience. next time u win ^^
DyEnasTy
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States3714 Posts
December 11 2011 16:58 GMT
#17
Dude you gotta take this loss in stride and learn from it. Didnt play your best? ok. Let everyone down? ok. Learn from whatever mistakes you made and make yourself stronger.

Dont beat yourself up unnecessarily from this.
Much better to die an awesome Terran than to live as a magic wielding fairy or a mindless sac of biological goop. -Manifesto7
RUCoordinator
Profile Joined September 2011
United States39 Posts
December 11 2011 16:58 GMT
#18
Instead of taking a break for 2 weeks, train for 2 weeks like you've never trained before ^^ Basically you're saying:

"Everyone saw me try to climb this wall but I fell off half-way because I was so sweaty from the stress. I am sorry for letting everyone down, and to punish myself I will not practice wall-climbing for 2 weeks."

That makes no sense! You should be climbing that wall over and over again until you can leap over it in one jump and shit on it in the process. Then you come back 2 weeks later and play and rape FACE ^^
I'm on the Internet cause I'm an Internet thug.
hacklebeast
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5090 Posts
December 11 2011 16:59 GMT
#19
I got scared for a moment that this was going to be a "I'm sorry for match fixing" post. Don't worry about it, Koreans are good. You'll get em next time. [image loading]
Protoss: Best, Paralyze, Jangbi, Nal_Ra || Terran: Oov, Boxer, Fantasy, Hiya|| Zerg: Yellow, Zero
Iplaythings
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Denmark9110 Posts
December 11 2011 17:11 GMT
#20
Dont let it get to you and dont beat yourself up for it, I know it feels better but in the end it doesn't help at all.

In the woods, there lurks..
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