Election Mafia

For the lurkers in the thread, maybe a couple questions would get some activity:

1. What do you think of the No Pardon, No Exception rule?

2. Give your specific impressions of the campaigns so far, especially the major ones.

Remember, the more you get into the game you're playing, the more fun it is! :D

1. MarserBlood
2. nyczbrandon
8. Refallen
9. Cwave
11. MrZentor
15. evantrees
17. DropBear
23. Nisani201
24. cascades
25. ProfessorBadass (Curu + Erandorr hydra)

On December 13 2011 12:00 MrZentor wrote:
Hola! After reading this, I decided to post again.

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Because apparently one post isn't enough, here's my second one.

Anyways, I think we should lynch zeks. He wants to kill the hydra, because it will be "dangerous for the town", but having the hydra only helps town. He is either extremely stupid or he is mafia. Either way, it's best to kill him.

I already stated my view on who should be elected and voted for said person.

I'd much rather keep zeks around 'cause at least he's posting and I don't at all think that the case on him is strong enough yet that we can safely call him scum. Instead we could lynch one of those guys who only have two posts, they're impossible to read anyway. What do you think about that plan?

On December 13 2011 12:18 MrZentor wrote:
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We should lynch some lurkers to keep them active, but I don't think that will get us any mafia, because the mafia will end up shifting the vote to a non mafia lurker. I am just saying that given the current information, it would be best to lynch him. This could easily change with any new information or posts.


so you recognize that lynching lurkers won't kill mafia, but you still want to do it anyway? the hell?

Now I'm voting you for lynch :D

Building off Eii's accusations, here you say that either zeks is stupid or mafia, then you nonchalantly say that we should lynch him because he is the all we have at the moment in the next post. To me this doesnt look like an accusation or pressure, to me this looks like someone jumping on an easy wagon.

what does 'having the hydra only helps town' mean?

i know you're pretty new. but seriously this post looks like someone in your scumQT told you the following:
"hey zentor, you need to post something... attack zeks, he looks pretty bad right now..."
or can you tell me a better story?

i need to talk to you zentor

1. "Because apparently one post isn't enough, here's my second one" - Posting random BS to stay barely active and won't be called out for lurker
2. "Kill the hydra" - There are multiple hydras dude?
3. "Having the hydra only helps town" - Yeah as if hydra can't be scum
4. "dangerous for the town" - When did I ever say that ? Stop sticking words in my mouth

zentor might be coached scum.

Another one throws in a halfhearted vote on Zentor, let me fastforward and tell you where this ends this continues. Another handfull of people halfheartedly vote for Zentor. Zentor flips town. We don't have a clue who the real mafia is. We can't use the list people who voted for Zentor to find mafia because there won't be alot of mafia in there.

If on the spot right now, who would you lynch Zentor? Still Zeks ?

Analyzing Sheth's posts

Now lets look at a quick timeline of stuff he's done:


1. Ran for mayor immediately after game starts

He's one of the first people to run for mayor but drops out rather quickly without challenging the other candidates. For a completely new player to immediately run for mayor practically right after game starts seems fishy. After Rad/Arc campaigns gain steam he drops out silently because he knows he has no way of winning.

2.

On December 12 2011 12:28 Liquid`Sheth wrote:
Its very important we get these two positions filled up by people who are 100% not mafia. This can be tough obviously. So I think its obvious we want someone who is willing to write a lot in order to be one of these.


Implying people who write a lot are not mafia? Terrible logic

Note that he writes big blocks to try to fit his own category.

3. Claims he hasn't read any past games
On December 14 2011 05:13 Liquid`Sheth wrote:
I have not zeks :[ I havn't had anytime sadly. I've looked at a small part of a few before this one, but I've been trying to filter people here, fix my computer and keep up on SC2 related things. Its pretty time consuming. Not to mention that I'm at my families house and should visit with them as well ><


Yet it seems fishy that he does know some stuff about past games...
Why would it be devastating to have Radfield/Arctocod in office if they're both scum? The Mayor's role isn't really that powerful, and PYP:I was won without the Pardoner stopping a single lynch, and if the Pardoner stops a lynch without a huge reasonable then he's autolynch the next day. Wouldn't it be worse to have them out of office if they are town?"


Correct me if I'm wrong is sheepycat someone in a past game?
There is no way to figure out if someone is "100%" mafia either. Oh percentages, how I hate sheepycat or w/e his name is for over using them on EVERY single read he ever had. And what do you mean theres only one way to get confirmed and that way kinda prevents people from getting elected afterwards? I honestly just don't know....


4. People have called me out for saying "my 6th sense says one hydra is scum" - and used that in a case against me.

What about Sheth? He's been doing the same thing! Except in multiple occasions! Don't see him getting called out [Excuse my selective quoting, if you filter him and read these comments and the context it was in, you'll see that it makes no difference that i quoted it this way]

I get the basic read from Redfield that hes clean though. Just from the imaginary tone I hear in my head.


Radfield hasn't said anything from his one post, so I kind of don't think he should be mayor based on that, but I really think hes townie. Just from a random gut read.


Radfields comments are again good. I'm getting like this pure read from him for now. Just seems legit.


This quote unsettles me too:
And pointing out I'm trying to collect towncred is a good way for you to get some good towncred too. =)



5. Sheth posts a lot, but he's rather wishy washy in his opinions

Lynch - Prplhz - I've always gotten some weird vibes from him. Back when he said neither elected position is at all important and him saying he thinks its better if Mafia gets one of those jobs. I think its just weird logic. I'm all for you attacking risk.nuke and looking at deus-ex above me, and I realize your not really on other peoples radar, but your definetly on mine. If you can change my mind I'll definetly change my vote, I'm just saying this now as I have to go. I'll be back to re-read this all over before actual Election time.


Lynch Prplhz based on "weird vibes"

Either Zeks or Zentor. They've both shown that even if there not mafia, there not going to be too helpful in finding real mafia and might just confuse us more.


Then says if given the power he'd lynch me or Zentor. After Arc pressures Sheth he backs off a bit:

Sure, will do. Just again notice I was asked just which player would you call down the thunder on right now if you could? So I just answered my two feels and a brief why. Who've I've been worried about the most is pretty much constantly changing with posts and as I go over and filter everyone.


It appears to me he's just playing along with whatever the flavor of the week is

Conclusion: If you take everything he says as truth then he's an innocent townie who's trying too hard. Otherwise he seems pretty scummy

That was a pretty bad analysis. One of the quotes isn't even Liquid`Sheth's and the conclusion is that either he's town or he's scum. Duh.

Other than that, zeks is just rehashing the obvious instead of trying to clarify why he thinks it is coming from a scum mind and not a town mind.

Sorry I was at the gym.
No, come on if he's town I would feel so bad. He comes to play mafia and we lynch him day 1.

In conclusion, based on MrZanders current wishy-washyness as well as relatively late allusion to a blue-name without an actual role-claim causes him to draw my vote.

My vote may go to either Sheth or Mr.Zentor because Zentor seems to change votes a lot.

:/ I thought I read you changing your mind several times in this thread, mb if im wrong. Well it seems that you said you may change your vote from zeks after his post.

I saw that you didn't change your official vote, but I thought you would of changed it later on after more deliberation

@ProfBA Two things:

1: For the large analysis that I'm working on, I went through the thread and picked out every person that had been suspected. I started on the analysis, doing the players in the order I had the tabs in my web browser open, but ran out of time to finish. While I agree that Nisani may have not been the best analysis pick, there has been a lot of people pointing to Jitsu as scum. I feel that going through all the candidates who have been under suspicion and then posting my analysis will benefit both me and the rest of the town by showing what my reasoning is on all these candidates. I will try to clean up the ones I still have to do, though.

2: Why am I a pick for lynching?

i hope annul will serve his purpose and be around at the lynch. I am still torn between zentor and risk...
last time i read risks filter he seemed to be town to me :-[

On December 14 2011 04:35 Arctocod wrote:
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Hey risk.nuke, do you want to lynch sheth?

Sorry I was at the gym.
No, come on if he's town I would feel so bad. He comes to play mafia and we lynch him day 1.

Thats the cheapest punch anyone have ever thrown at me.