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bumatlarge
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States4567 Posts
December 09 2011 03:29 GMT
#1909
Haven't read thread, notice a lynch in a bout 1/2 hour. Anything I should need to do?
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bumatlarge
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States4567 Posts
December 09 2011 03:37 GMT
#1918
Sorry if my vote will be a little last minute but I would like to read up on as much as I can about the candidates. Annul, redff and palmar are the major peeps?
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bumatlarge
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States4567 Posts
December 09 2011 03:51 GMT
#1941
Read throught redff's filter. I'm on town at the moment. Palmar started this game out with probably one of the worse posts I've seen him make, and redff wasted no time hammering it. + Show Spoiler +
On December 05 2011 02:24 redFF wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 04 2011 19:38 Palmar wrote:
Sup.

If we assume the hosts went with the most obvious way of balancing the game, two people out of this list are scum:

Radfield
Palmar
Jackal
sandroba
syllogism
redFF
posts useless list
Show nested quote +
However I would never agree with lynching based on how we perceive the hosts balance games. They could just as well have randomized it or used some other method to balance it.
the very next thing he says basically calls the list useless

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What I'm more interested in is that 6/25 seems like an oddly high number of mafia for a normal setup. Do you think this is offset by lower mafia KP or multiple town power roles?
I'm not sure what the point of this question is. Nobody (except maybe scum) knows for sure. It's pointless setup speculation to look like contributing with a hint of rolefishing.

Show nested quote +
In addition, how would you feel about randomly lynching on day 1. I mean completely random, we just have some kinda rng generator choose our lynch for the day.
I'm fairly sure this isn't going to happen, dumb idea. Besides we could never trust the person generating the number to not influence it themselves in some way.


While that is more or less a null-tell for someone like redff, palmar is significantly scummier. Redff's posts from there are obnoxiously short, yet he seems heavily invested in palmar's alignment being scum. Palmar has claimed floridian (I'm assuming he proved it?) so I think he far from a safe lynch at this point with my limited knowledge. I haven't read any post by annul, and I do not get a scum read from redff.

Chance of town lynching town tonight: 90% Best bet is annul.
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bumatlarge
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States4567 Posts
December 09 2011 03:55 GMT
#1945
On December 09 2011 12:54 vaderseven wrote:
Annul is trully not a good choice.


From what I can see he's better then redff. That guy has been pushing palmar the entire game? Where is the analysis on redff, or are we just voting blindly as usual?
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bumatlarge
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States4567 Posts
December 09 2011 03:59 GMT
#1951
On December 09 2011 12:56 vaderseven wrote:
The thing is annul is so surely town that a vote for him is a vote for town.

:/

Redff has a posting style justs really isn't helpful at times (the one liners) and his defense seems very much a scummy defense.


I think that is the fault of redff's nature, not your scum hunting ability. From what I've read, redff looks sincerely town, and his posts make my eyes hurt.

HAS PALMAR 100% PROVEN HE IS FLORIDIAN?
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bumatlarge
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States4567 Posts
December 09 2011 04:01 GMT
#1957
On December 09 2011 12:59 redFF wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 09 2011 12:59 bumatlarge wrote:
On December 09 2011 12:56 vaderseven wrote:
The thing is annul is so surely town that a vote for him is a vote for town.

:/

Redff has a posting style justs really isn't helpful at times (the one liners) and his defense seems very much a scummy defense.


I think that is the fault of redff's nature, not your scum hunting ability. From what I've read, redff looks sincerely town, and his posts make my eyes hurt.

HAS PALMAR 100% PROVEN HE IS FLORIDIAN?

no


Ah well fuck, sorry I'd rather no-lynch then vote blindly. I'll be reading the thread -_-
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bumatlarge
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States4567 Posts
December 09 2011 05:01 GMT
#1969
On December 09 2011 12:59 redFF wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 09 2011 12:59 bumatlarge wrote:
On December 09 2011 12:56 vaderseven wrote:
The thing is annul is so surely town that a vote for him is a vote for town.

:/

Redff has a posting style justs really isn't helpful at times (the one liners) and his defense seems very much a scummy defense.


I think that is the fault of redff's nature, not your scum hunting ability. From what I've read, redff looks sincerely town, and his posts make my eyes hurt.

HAS PALMAR 100% PROVEN HE IS FLORIDIAN?

no


Why did you lie? Unless palmar's scumbuddy is a floridian as well, and assuming a town floridian would counterclaim, Palmar has proven he has such a power. This does not bode well for my conclusion of you being town. -_-

Palmar is at worst a null-read, and other people should be prioritized. Reading annul's fliter did not bear much fruit other then that people's personalities are starting to mesh together for me. It appears some people were day-vigged, do we have claims from that? I may have missed them skimming the thread.
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bumatlarge
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States4567 Posts
December 11 2011 04:57 GMT
#2225
Well, I've been reading the past few pages a couple times an I can't really reach a verdict, so I have to go with my gut here.

Is drazerk normally like this? At least try to keep your line of play consistent yo. If you are trying to get shot, don't claim roleblock immune medic who post claim day 1. Reading your filter, Annul's analysis looks extremely solid. That said, this is completely different from the line of play I recall you play in the other games. You are still dead weight at this point as town, so it shouldn't be the least bit surprising that people are pushing you as town.

Drazerk would be the safe lynch. Annul seems to be the better lynch.

Annul's present play is very transparent. Obviously this lynch is very important, since scum will have na uphill climb if we lynch scum tonight with palmar zeph and toad (three people I'm fairly confident are not scum) still alive. Drazerk lynch or bust is very obvious, and drazerk has been playing awfully so I can see any argument against this. His line of play is VERY linear, but not completely desperate.

I would feel pretty bad if annul f flipped town at this point, but I have to go with palmar at this one, an trust drazerk is actually this dumb ....
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bumatlarge
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States4567 Posts
December 11 2011 10:10 GMT
#2232
On December 11 2011 15:23 annul wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 11 2011 13:57 bumatlarge wrote:
Annul's present play is very transparent. Obviously this lynch is very important, since scum will have na uphill climb if we lynch scum tonight with palmar zeph and toad (three people I'm fairly confident are not scum) still alive. Drazerk lynch or bust is very obvious


you mean to tell me that my play only makes sense if i were red?

you dont think that a blue under constant pressure for two days straight should try to defend himself? lol

of course this lynch is important... because im blue and town shouldnt lynch a blue. is that all you see, that i am trying to get a lynch on an actual red instead of myself?


I think you're too smart to jump on drazerk for being stupid. I don't think drazerk is red, therefore you don't have a great record for targets this game. It's shame this stems off some lie, but it produced results. You would have played this differently as a blue. Immediately assuming drazerk is scum not it.
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bumatlarge
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States4567 Posts
December 12 2011 19:47 GMT
#2470
No one listens to Bum. When I say someone sn't mafia you listen
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bumatlarge
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States4567 Posts
December 13 2011 01:36 GMT
#2493
Oh look, everything I predicted is right, big surprise bum must be mafia because he cannot be this smart.

On December 09 2011 12:51 bumatlarge wrote:
Read throught redff's filter. I'm on town at the moment. Palmar started this game out with probably one of the worse posts I've seen him make, and redff wasted no time hammering it. + Show Spoiler +
On December 05 2011 02:24 redFF wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 04 2011 19:38 Palmar wrote:
Sup.

If we assume the hosts went with the most obvious way of balancing the game, two people out of this list are scum:

Radfield
Palmar
Jackal
sandroba
syllogism
redFF
posts useless list
Show nested quote +
However I would never agree with lynching based on how we perceive the hosts balance games. They could just as well have randomized it or used some other method to balance it.
the very next thing he says basically calls the list useless

Show nested quote +
What I'm more interested in is that 6/25 seems like an oddly high number of mafia for a normal setup. Do you think this is offset by lower mafia KP or multiple town power roles?
I'm not sure what the point of this question is. Nobody (except maybe scum) knows for sure. It's pointless setup speculation to look like contributing with a hint of rolefishing.

Show nested quote +
In addition, how would you feel about randomly lynching on day 1. I mean completely random, we just have some kinda rng generator choose our lynch for the day.
I'm fairly sure this isn't going to happen, dumb idea. Besides we could never trust the person generating the number to not influence it themselves in some way.


While that is more or less a null-tell for someone like redff, palmar is significantly scummier. Redff's posts from there are obnoxiously short, yet he seems heavily invested in palmar's alignment being scum. Palmar has claimed floridian (I'm assuming he proved it?) so I think he far from a safe lynch at this point with my limited knowledge. I haven't read any post by annul, and I do not get a scum read from redff.

Chance of town lynching town tonight: 90% Best bet is annul.


If palmar and his medic are scum, they deserve to win at this point. He puts all his pressure and votes on someone and "the town" just completely change the direction of a relevant lynch. Yeah palmar and his nutty mafia schemes of pushing one person then having town vote off someone one else by MAGIC.

Annul is still my best guess for scum, none of his actions have changed that. Everyone who voted redff is either scum or stupid.

Please vote Annul, or please shoot me.
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bumatlarge
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States4567 Posts
December 13 2011 01:49 GMT
#2496
On December 13 2011 10:47 annul wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 13 2011 10:36 bumatlarge wrote:
Please vote Annul, or please shoot me.


wifom bait


You see it isn't WIFOM, because either option works for me
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bumatlarge
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States4567 Posts
December 13 2011 01:50 GMT
#2497
PS:

Both even
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bumatlarge
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States4567 Posts
December 13 2011 01:53 GMT
#2502
On December 13 2011 10:50 annul wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 13 2011 10:49 bumatlarge wrote:
On December 13 2011 10:47 annul wrote:
On December 13 2011 10:36 bumatlarge wrote:
Please vote Annul, or please shoot me.


wifom bait


You see it isn't WIFOM, because either option works for me


just because you may be immune to iocane powder doesnt make it wifom for everyone else


There did you what see I...

On December 13 2011 10:50 Lanaia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 13 2011 10:49 bumatlarge wrote:
On December 13 2011 10:47 annul wrote:
On December 13 2011 10:36 bumatlarge wrote:
Please vote Annul, or please shoot me.


wifom bait


You see it isn't WIFOM, because either option works for me


Bummmmm why do you want to die


Redff lynch was dumb, and I wasn't here to tell everyone how dumb they were, and it's redff's fault, and he was town. Me getting shot completes the cycle.
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bumatlarge
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States4567 Posts
December 13 2011 02:04 GMT
#2506
Obviously, if annul is scum, we have a solid list in the redff column.

Drazerk, TruthBringer, vaderseven, annul, Risen, Zephirdd, Toadesstern, Mattchew, Jackal58, Refallen, kingjames01

Go nuts DTs. Really disappointing to see drazerk, zeph and toad here. What do I know anymore.
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bumatlarge
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States4567 Posts
December 13 2011 02:51 GMT
#2508
On December 13 2011 11:12 annul wrote:
im not scum, and i still like the drazerk kill even though he supported me.


I'd be cool if he got shot, but he is not a lynch target. That's one thing drazerk got right.
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bumatlarge
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States4567 Posts
December 13 2011 04:31 GMT
#2514
No surprises there, smart people vote annul. You can't switch your votes to redff this time!
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bumatlarge
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States4567 Posts
December 13 2011 05:57 GMT
#2518
On December 13 2011 14:43 TruthBringer wrote:
Wow, this lynch is going to be brutal. The town has only 10 voters and 9 of them have to be correct.


And knowing this, isn't astounding that six people have posted and not voted annul when I would defend any scum bandwagon vote onto him. It's as if annul was really mafia. Perish the thought!
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bumatlarge
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States4567 Posts
December 14 2011 04:51 GMT
#2650
That made me smile so hard.
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bumatlarge
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States4567 Posts
December 14 2011 06:50 GMT
#2660
I don't think anyone is surprised by you voting one another. You both have very similar roles, so a minor difference looks very fake. I'm obviously staing on annul. I would like to know who claimed (or shot) first, as that would indicate that mafia might just have a day vig who decided to claim what the other person did. (Which seems fairly silly to fakeclaim a JOAT after someone claims it, so I think its logical to assume mafia has a JOAT as well)

No reason to divert off the discussion off these two. Hold your hyshes arguments for now.
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