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kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
November 01 2011 21:02 GMT
#44
/in
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
November 02 2011 13:56 GMT
#93
Introducing Team Kita, featuring redFF.
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
November 02 2011 22:30 GMT
#182
As far as the setup goes, I think the most important thing to probably consider is that once a majority is reached, the day ends. As town benefits from longer days, don't hammer until near the end of the cycle. With 9 players, a no lynch is equivalent to a mislynch, unless there is a successful save. The ability to jail a mafia kp is an interesting twist, however being in the dark about the setup and whether or not a save was made, makes it much less powerful.

I'm suspicious of Crofty at the moment. I want to hear what he has to say for himself.

##Vote TEAM LIQUID
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
November 02 2011 22:44 GMT
#184
Hmm? Voting != hammering. And I have a perfectly valid reason. Crofty is suspicious!
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
November 03 2011 00:18 GMT
#219
On November 03 2011 08:21 wherebugsgo wrote:
If town starts succumbing to inactivity (as is the norm lately) I'll be rather pissed.


*wink wink*
*nudge nudge*
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
November 03 2011 00:19 GMT
#220
Also, we've all read our role pms. New discussion topic please.
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
November 03 2011 00:32 GMT
#225
On November 03 2011 09:22 prplhz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 03 2011 09:19 kitaman27 wrote:
Also, we've all read our role pms. New discussion topic please.


thats easy to say what u want to talk about then if not about hyshes who talks about bad plans that can not be implemented anyway just to appear to be clever


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Punctuation

I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
November 03 2011 00:32 GMT
#227
BAM, NINJA'D BY MY OTHER HALF! (you should check your irc)
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kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
November 03 2011 00:36 GMT
#230
@Crofty, have you been in contact with GM yet?

@iGrok, why no post yet?
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
November 03 2011 00:49 GMT
#237
On November 03 2011 09:48 GMarshal wrote:
Hey! I know namecalling is *hilarious*, but its not conducive to finding scum, so please focus on that instead.

Oh and prplhz is scum, he is deliberately derailing the town.

##Vote: TEAM VIKING



Could you elaborate?
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
November 03 2011 01:03 GMT
#244
On November 03 2011 09:56 GMarshal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 03 2011 09:49 kitaman27 wrote:
On November 03 2011 09:48 GMarshal wrote:
Hey! I know namecalling is *hilarious*, but its not conducive to finding scum, so please focus on that instead.

Oh and prplhz is scum, he is deliberately derailing the town.

##Vote: TEAM VIKING



Could you elaborate?

Filter him. His grammar and spelling is annoying and he's pushing nonesense that doesn't further finding scum.


Could you provide specific examples where he is deliberately derailing town?

On November 03 2011 09:55 iGrok wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 03 2011 09:36 kitaman27 wrote:
@Crofty, have you been in contact with GM yet?

@iGrok, why no post yet?

I did post yet.

I've been talking with my partner so far. You know me, all I ever do is lurk the first half of D1.

I'll break this wide open end of D1 or N1, don't worry


Trying to draw another day one medic protect by lurking?

What have you been talking with your partner about?
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
November 03 2011 12:28 GMT
#272
On November 03 2011 10:03 kitaman27 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 03 2011 09:56 GMarshal wrote:
On November 03 2011 09:49 kitaman27 wrote:
On November 03 2011 09:48 GMarshal wrote:
Hey! I know namecalling is *hilarious*, but its not conducive to finding scum, so please focus on that instead.

Oh and prplhz is scum, he is deliberately derailing the town.

##Vote: TEAM VIKING



Could you elaborate?

Filter him. His grammar and spelling is annoying and he's pushing nonesense that doesn't further finding scum.


Could you provide specific examples where he is deliberately derailing town?


@GM. Reposting this.
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kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
November 03 2011 12:51 GMT
#274
On November 03 2011 21:40 GMarshal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 03 2011 08:39 prplhz wrote:
On November 03 2011 08:35 Crofty wrote:
Well hi there.

So, its been a couple of hours since the day started, and already two votes on Team Liquid, due to "Crofty is silent" and Crofty is an unknown factor.

Which, frankly, is fair enough. Since I am a newcomer to these forums, and since you haven't had the pleasure of playing mafia with me before, I am a decent enough safe first vote. This also would provoke me to respond by posting, and hopefully giving you some data to work with. Had the tables been turned, I would likely do the same thing, so I'll let this slide for now.

What would you like to know?


i would like to know how you like playing with gm so far is he being nice to u? what kind of stuff is he telling you in your qt?


Once again, why are we discussing the interactions inside the team? How does this help us locate scum or do anything of relevance? How does this lead to meaningful discussion?


Seems relavent to me. I'm pretty sure he is trying to tell if the response was coached or not.

On November 03 2011 21:40 GMarshal wrote:
This is the derailment I'm talking about, he has all these posts about worthless things, that want to go off topic for no apparent reason.


So are saying you think he is trying to promote a scum agenda by causing chaos or is he just spamming?
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
November 03 2011 14:05 GMT
#279
On November 03 2011 10:22 sandroba wrote:
I have aditional thoughts on the setup which I'll save for discussion half way through the day.


Was there a reason you wanted to wait rather than contribute now? Also, was there a reason you wanted us to know you were waiting?

I'm also looking forward to hearing from Radfield. I still don't forgive him for his sneaky disappearance during Salem.

Team Nipple, Team Switzerland and Team SS aren't pulling their weight yet. In a mini game where we only have 2 mislynches until we are at LYLO, we can't afford a slow start, especially with the threat of not being able to reach a majority.
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
November 03 2011 14:36 GMT
#282
On November 03 2011 23:31 supersoft wrote:
team kitaredff your vote is still on gm right? you still keep that vote on him?


I'm open to other suggestions, but Team Viking is not one of them at the moment.
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
November 03 2011 18:44 GMT
#298
On November 04 2011 02:43 GMarshal wrote:
Truly this is a Kurumi plan.


On November 04 2011 02:43 GMarshal wrote:
your suggestion of no-lynching to "prolong the game" is retarded.


On November 04 2011 03:40 GMarshal wrote:
I can understand Kurumi pushing this anti-town idiocy


Since when does town GM bully people around like this?
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
November 03 2011 18:59 GMT
#303
7v2
Mislynch
5v2
Mislynch
3v2
LYLO

7v2
No lynch
6v2
No lynch
5v2
Mislynch
3v2
LYLO

Essentially we are trading 1 mislynch for 48 hours of disccusion, during which nobody is threatened because they know there won't be a lynch. The odds of hitting scum statistically are unfavorable every day. That doesn't mean you don't try.

I will do my part to ensure we no lynch today, unless someone comes up if a more convincing case


Or you could try to come up with a more convincing case yourself. We agree the prpl one is bad, how about the other 6 teams?
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
November 03 2011 20:18 GMT
#318
Blues are a nice safety net, but it really doesn't benefit us that much to base our gameplan around them by no-lynching.

First the jailer has to block the correct shooter, then the jailer has to consider that a doctor could have prevented the shot or that the mafia decided not to shoot, then the jailer has to decide whether he roleblocked a mafia or protected a town, then the jailer has to sucessfully push his case in the thread.

Parity cop has to survive to day three to be of any use.
Assuming worse case scenario where we mislynch the first two days:
There is a 1/9 chance he gets lynched day one.
A 2/6 chance he gets discovered or shot night one.
A 1/7 chance he gets lynched day two.
A 1/3 chance he gets shot night two.

Which is only about a 10% sucess rate (correct me if I made a mistake here).

Going with a double no lynch increases the survival rate of the parity cop slightly, but it really doesn't seem worth giving up a lynch in exchange.
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
November 03 2011 22:15 GMT
#332
I'd like to hear from Katzeleute and Crofty in particular about who they find suspicious at the moment.
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
November 04 2011 01:52 GMT
#365
On November 04 2011 10:21 deconduo wrote:
Prime scum team, probably worthy of a vote. I want to here what sandroba has to say first though, still haven't gotten in contact with him yet. Won't be able to until tomorrow either as I'm off to bed now.


Oh prime scum team? Funny, you haven't pointed out anything that was actually scummy.

At this point, I believe the scum team is contained in this set of players. Ideally I'd like to be able to narrow it down as more people start to post, but RoL, Kurumi, Crofty, iGrok, and Katzeleute all need to give us more to work with.

1. sandroba & Sevryn Deconduo - TEAM SS
3. Radfield & wherebugsgo - TEAM CHEZINU
4. Kurumi & RebirthOfLeGenD - TEAM NIPPLE
5. Crofty & Gmarshal - TEAM LIQUID
7. chaoser & hyshes - TEAM EDWARD
8. iGrok & Katzeleute - TEAM SWITZERLAND
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