EPTSurprisingly Normal Mini Mafia VI
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Toadesstern
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Set Up: 1 Mafia Role Blocker, 2 Mafia Goons, 7 Town, 1 Medic, 1 Detective 1 Mafia Role Blocker, 2 Mafia Goons, 9 Town 3 Mafia Goons, 1 Medic, 8 Town. 3 Mafia Goons, 1 Detective, 8 Town. Those 2 bottom ones look perfectly "balanced " between each other, 3 goons vs either 1medi+8 town OR 3 goons vs 1 dt+8 town. Looks good, 3 red, both times the same vs 8green+1blue on both. However the first 2 are kinda crazy if you ask me. It's either mafia vs 7 town + 1medic + 1dt or it's mafia vs 9 towns. So basicly, while red teams stays exactly the same again, town might play with 7 greens and 2 blues or with no blues at all. This is my first ever mafia so I don't know if I'm talking bullshit right now, I just read it once again to get a view thougths about it and it seems strange to me so I'm asking about it. That one option is basicly just the same, except that it seems to be "weaker" in every possible aspect  Is there a reason for this? For example, take the 2nd one, if red turns out to be 3 guys playing for the first time, while town got all of those 2nd, or 3rd time players (i.e "buffin red 'cause they're 'bunch of noobs")? Or ist it a type and the second one needs to be buffed? | ||
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Is the not editing rule already in place although the game hasn't startet yet? :D Would not have made a new post just for the spelling issues. I guess everyone knew what was meant anyway but since I'm combining that one with another question I'm fine, right? :p Although another thought on the question one post above. I guess it should be 2 blues on 1st set and 2nd set right? It's basicly: 1 blue for town if mafia does not have a roleblocker or 2 blues for town if mafia does have a roleblocker. But in that case you'd only need 3 sets, cause 7 townies+dt+medic is the same as 7 townies+medic+dt. So it all comes down to: Is there a reason why one set is just way weaker than those other 3 ones. | ||
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Have fun dealing with me until tuesday, cause we got kind of an Oktoberfest going on where I'm from right now :p Just to tell you right now and it's not supposed to look strange/scummy that I'm not posting an awful lot the next 3 days if it's going to start before tuesday. | ||
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## Vote FatesGod for the sake of voting right now, am still reading and might change it with another post | ||
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I think we might have a problem here or am I just missing a lot of votes? Because it looks like there's way too few  | ||
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2 votes on FatesGod by ciryandor and me 1 vote on Edwin by rayn 1 vote on me (as mentioned, I wasn't online, so yeah I guess I count to ) by Zanfada1 vote on Sknowman by FranzP So basicly if mafia wants to push something it's really easy right now because they only need 1 or 2 votes to do so. So spreading our votes on multiple lurkes probably isn't the best thing to do I assume. | ||
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I'm going to stay awake to get this going, and switch votes if someone turns out to get a couple. Not really a question, more a "come on guys, we got some hours left, start voting" | ||
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On September 29 2011 03:22 raynpelikoneet wrote: I'll be voting a lurker aswell, at least now. ## Vote Edwin5 I might aswell say i'm not gonna be here when the day is over (it's 5 AM here then, and i have to go to work tomorrow), so i pretty much need to make up my mind in a couple of hours. Since he said he's not going to be here when day ends I'm switching to Edwin5 as well, that way we got 2 on someone, ciryandor was posting a little while ago, too, so we might get 3 if he switches too. If the rest shows up we might get enough to get a lynch going and not have 6 guys modkilled ## Vote Edwin5 | ||
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Then I guess if that's going to happen we don't even have the chance to change that. To sum it up it's something like this: We're pretty screwed right now with only 6 guys voting, however if 2 or three guys more show up we might get something done and even in that case it's going to be hard to get 6 guys voting for the same. The guy I quoted said he's not online => he's not going to change. If we get 6 modkills we won't get a majority anyway, however if we don't that one vote might make a difference. In my opinion it's the only way to not screw up day1 for town, although it's probably still not enough. | ||
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## Unvote ## Vote Edwin5 | ||
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On September 29 2011 10:28 Ciryandor wrote: Six modkills = GG for town if all were VTs, if 1 was scum, then we're barely alive. two scum there means it's still a toss-up; but I see your point in removing as many mod-kills as possible by forcing people to bandwagon someone; I just don't think it's a very good idea to gain info on who's acting scummy; zany already seems to act like that to say the least. yeah, just came to my mind as well. The real problem here is that it's np for mafia to just act like they're town as well. I mean we got 6 guys voting, even if edwin was mafia they'd have no problem switching a couple votes on edwin because hell. At least that's what I'd do if I where mafia (talking about us 4 right now, obviously now I'd not get more votes on him if I where mafia) As mentioned we got pretty much zero info right now except for one statement that sounds stupid in a noob game. I might be doing this right now, just like you could or zany, knowing that 6 guys aren't here voting and there's probably not going to be a lynch on day 1. So I am questioning this right now, because it makes it realy easy for mafia on day1 looking like they care about getting a lynch. Than again I can't think of something better right now. Surely giving up on day1 sounds no good to me as well. | ||
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in that case: ##Vote Edwin5 There's a bunch of people voting with space. I copy & pasted it from raynpelikoneet and everyone else probably copy & pasted it from me, so my bad | ||
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 Less modkills is always awesome I guess | ||
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So the edwin vote was to get some information, sure as mentioned it's np to vote for him as mafia as quoted earlier, because he is not participating until now but it may have produced errors from mafia. This is a noob game after all. Let's say we got 6 or 7 on edwin, he ends up being mafia and someone from mafia screws up and changes votes, which would be pretty awesome for us. I though that this might be the only chance to get something out of our votes by than given that there were only 3 hours left, even if the chances to get this lucky are so slim, still better than having everone on a spreaded vote where mafia can do what they want and can't actually make a mistake. This day one 72hours obviousy screws with this idea since we could get a normal lynch which is better. Think what you want about it, talk about it and discuss it. I will take a little nap and will contine reading in a few hours. So to sum it up we got something from zany that sounds stupid in a beginners game and the just posted statement from JoshKirby . I mean really? we got 2 or 3 people who are trying to get some activity. Activity is good for town and you want to lynch someone active because he's active? I know that this is a beginners game but srsly, This is totally scum logic. They try to go for blues on day 1 which is going to be hard given there's so few town active, if they can't they're going for someone you gets the activity going because that's so valuable to town as well. Right now the only reads in my opinion are on zany and josh, don't know if I forgot something or if my logic is flawed. I still think the post from zany could be a town-mistake, as could the josh post but I think joshs the bigger one. If we get a vote on one of those two I'm all about it and will change my vote in no time. If we get a vote on a lurker, fine too. ##UNVOTE Edwin5 ##VOTE JoshKirby | ||
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