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Mr. Wiggles
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada5894 Posts
August 12 2011 03:22 GMT
#25
/in
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Mr. Wiggles
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada5894 Posts
August 12 2011 05:13 GMT
#32
GM, when are you hosting [T]Pony Mafia? :p
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Mr. Wiggles
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
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December 15 2011 22:15 GMT
#59
On December 16 2011 04:50 bumatlarge wrote:
Speaking of L, I just played a LoL game with him and he got very mad when I took kills as janna. Suport needs that gold yo.

Lol, I do the same thing. :p
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Mr. Wiggles
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada5894 Posts
January 06 2012 01:44 GMT
#138
Dat player list

On August 12 2011 12:22 Mr. Wiggles wrote:
/in

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Mr. Wiggles
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada5894 Posts
January 06 2012 06:13 GMT
#148
On January 06 2012 11:35 Jackal58 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 06 2012 10:54 VisceraEyes wrote:
I'll step down for one of Wiggles/Jackal. Out of RESPECT.

He added us.
But thanks. That was a gracious action on your part. If I roll scum I'll kill you last.

If I roll scum, I'll make you mayor.
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Mr. Wiggles
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
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Last Edited: 2012-01-11 21:53:49
January 11 2012 21:53 GMT
#338
Who's mystlord? I'm just wondering, because it says he's playing with incog.
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Mr. Wiggles
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada5894 Posts
January 12 2012 23:53 GMT
#419
Plexa should play in this game so I can call him out on waffling.
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Mr. Wiggles
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada5894 Posts
January 13 2012 04:48 GMT
#436
On January 13 2012 13:45 Cyber_Cheese wrote:
Something seems wrong...
I didn't autoscum :O

Speaking of auto-scum
##Vote MrWiggles

Thanks for voting me, Cyber. I'll need every one I can get, to become mayor!
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Mr. Wiggles
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada5894 Posts
January 13 2012 05:07 GMT
#442
A couple notes about the set-up:

Elected roles gain detection immunity. This makes it worse for us if mafia get into one of these roles, as we have no way to DT check them. It also means that the GF probably won't run for office, or if he does, he'll drop out early. Between the mayor and the sheriff, the sheriff is the one who actually has power past day 1. So, one thing we can do, is vote in a player that we see as both a strong townie, and as being town in this game, into the mayor role solely for the purposes of protection. This applies to the sheriff too, but there's more responsibility on them as the game goes on due to the jailkeeper mechanic.

Also something to note, is that we can't trust vig claims, due to the possibility of mafia jack's, who would be able to shoot and not affect what KP would show up that night coming from the mafia.

We should also maybe talk about when to use our double lynches, but I don't think it's a huge deal until when the time comes that we might actually want to use them. We just need to be careful not to waste them.

Vote me into office, please.
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Mr. Wiggles
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January 13 2012 06:17 GMT
#457
On January 13 2012 14:56 Protactinium wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 13 2012 14:26 Ciryandor wrote:
/confirm

LOL I won't vote for Kitaman after XLVIII's disaster. He was an absolute derp in that. Waiting for people to put in a serious campaign with a decent policy. This is why I'm waiting for Mr. Wiggles and Cyber_Cheese to provide us with good reasons; and right now, Wiggles has the best campaign of the lot.

I of course wonder if Sandroba or Palmar will try to get to the elections again.


I'm running for mayor on the platform of lynching Ciryandor. There's no way you seriously think Mr. Wiggles has the best campaign.

My campaign is to not make a campaign post, because they're all the same (except for foolishness' so far), and they're all useless.

Generic Mayoral Campagin

I think I am the best candidate to be voted into office, these are my credentials:
  • I am Town
  • I promise to be active
  • I always do bad as scum, so even if I'm scum you can catch me (Optional: Link or reference past games)
  • I promise to lynch someone scummy (Or a lurker, or another mayoral candidate, or Kavdragon)
  • I am the best townie who ever towned
  • I like kittens and ponies, and everything innocent and pure

VOTE FOR ME!!!!!

I think this adequately describes nearly every mayoral post we will see in this game.

So, Foolishness, why do you think that Bill Murray is easier to read than any other player in the game? What games has he played, where he's shown his worth as a townie? I've only played with him twice, and they weren't exactly demonstrative of awesome play, but I don't think he was trying that hard.
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Mr. Wiggles
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada5894 Posts
January 13 2012 06:21 GMT
#458
I also promise not to lynch Bill Murray Day 1 unless he actually looks like the scummiest person to me. I'm going to treat him the same as any other player, as I don't have any personal grudge or problem with him.

+ Show Spoiler +
So don't worry, Foolishness!
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Mr. Wiggles
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada5894 Posts
January 13 2012 06:36 GMT
#464
On January 13 2012 15:25 Foolishness wrote:
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On January 13 2012 15:11 Erandorr wrote:
Foolishness, first of, what a beautiful campaign, you made more sense than anyone else until now. I am wondering, however, why you think that our focus should be to get the roles away from potentially strong mafia players instead of trying to protect potentially good town players in a massive game like this?

The incarcerate ability seems like more of an asset to the mafia than the town (it's almost like a roleblocker). The extra votes will help mafia if it gets down near lylo. With 10 mafia I think it's safe to say we got some blue power on our side (exactly what or how is unknown, but it's there). I think it's better to halt the mafia from getting additional benefits then protecting a potentially good player. As you said a good town player is only "potentially" good. Even the best players have off games for whatever reasons. A mafia team won't "potentially" use those abilities correctly, they will.

The sheriff is a jailkeeper, which can be used very well for the town if put into the right hands, either offensively or defensively. Why do you think it's better for scum? I'm checking if the mayor/sheriff can be roleblocked right now, but if they can't then that means that we would have an assured protection in the form of the sheriff, which is extremely powerful for town.

Also, I didn't notice the mayor gets a triple vote, disregard what I said about the mayor not being that good besides protection for a good player.
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Mr. Wiggles
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada5894 Posts
January 13 2012 06:42 GMT
#465
On January 13 2012 15:36 Mr. Wiggles wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 13 2012 15:25 Foolishness wrote:
On January 13 2012 15:11 Erandorr wrote:
Foolishness, first of, what a beautiful campaign, you made more sense than anyone else until now. I am wondering, however, why you think that our focus should be to get the roles away from potentially strong mafia players instead of trying to protect potentially good town players in a massive game like this?

The incarcerate ability seems like more of an asset to the mafia than the town (it's almost like a roleblocker). The extra votes will help mafia if it gets down near lylo. With 10 mafia I think it's safe to say we got some blue power on our side (exactly what or how is unknown, but it's there). I think it's better to halt the mafia from getting additional benefits then protecting a potentially good player. As you said a good town player is only "potentially" good. Even the best players have off games for whatever reasons. A mafia team won't "potentially" use those abilities correctly, they will.

The sheriff is a jailkeeper, which can be used very well for the town if put into the right hands, either offensively or defensively. Why do you think it's better for scum? I'm checking if the mayor/sheriff can be roleblocked right now, but if they can't then that means that we would have an assured protection in the form of the sheriff, which is extremely powerful for town.

Also, I didn't notice the mayor gets a triple vote, disregard what I said about the mayor not being that good besides protection for a good player.

They can't be roleblocked, I just got confirmation. Going to bed now, see you guys tomorrow.
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Mr. Wiggles
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada5894 Posts
January 13 2012 06:57 GMT
#470
On January 13 2012 15:44 Foolishness wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 13 2012 15:36 Mr. Wiggles wrote:
On January 13 2012 15:25 Foolishness wrote:
On January 13 2012 15:11 Erandorr wrote:
Foolishness, first of, what a beautiful campaign, you made more sense than anyone else until now. I am wondering, however, why you think that our focus should be to get the roles away from potentially strong mafia players instead of trying to protect potentially good town players in a massive game like this?

The incarcerate ability seems like more of an asset to the mafia than the town (it's almost like a roleblocker). The extra votes will help mafia if it gets down near lylo. With 10 mafia I think it's safe to say we got some blue power on our side (exactly what or how is unknown, but it's there). I think it's better to halt the mafia from getting additional benefits then protecting a potentially good player. As you said a good town player is only "potentially" good. Even the best players have off games for whatever reasons. A mafia team won't "potentially" use those abilities correctly, they will.

The sheriff is a jailkeeper, which can be used very well for the town if put into the right hands, either offensively or defensively. Why do you think it's better for scum? I'm checking if the mayor/sheriff can be roleblocked right now, but if they can't then that means that we would have an assured protection in the form of the sheriff, which is extremely powerful for town.

Also, I didn't notice the mayor gets a triple vote, disregard what I said about the mayor not being that good besides protection for a good player.

How can the town effectively use the power? The only thing I can see it being used for is as a medic, but it's a bit worthless on nearly any blue role. Incarcerating a mafia is only going to reduce KP if the planets are aligned (i.e. there are the right number of mafia alive) or there's the lucky chance you get one of the mafia power roles (which we don't even know exist). The power is more useful late game (if it even gets to that point) but only for protecting a townie.

And considering we don't have free PMing it's even more worthless as it'd be much better for coordinating behind the scenes.

It's an unblockable medic, why wouldn't town be able to use it? You also didn't actually answer my question.

I'm not sure why we're arguing, though, as the whole point is to get the role into town hands, and to keep it away from mafia. Whether or not it's better for scum than town, we still don't want them to have it. Hopefully you can agree to that.
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Mr. Wiggles
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada5894 Posts
January 13 2012 06:59 GMT
#471
Bum, why are you giving generic blue advice?
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Mr. Wiggles
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada5894 Posts
January 13 2012 14:55 GMT
#551
So, I woke up, ate a couple of eggos and read the thread. I'm going to school soon, so this will be brief.

Potential Lynch Candidates:

Palmar is easy to read as scum, so we should have a decent idea of his alignment by the end of the day, based on his posting and attitude.

Of the other mayoral candidates, I don't likes bumatlarge's mayoral post, which is less about why he should be mayor, or how we should play, and more about a list of advice for blues. I get the feeling that he's actually going to drop out of the election before the end of day 1. I also don't like Cyber's posting in general, but I'd probably need to elaborate, and I can't do that right now.

Who I'm voting for:

The point of the no-campaign campaign, is that you can't hold anyone to anything they say as part of a mayoral campaign. The only promise a mayor can really make and keep, is who they're going to lynch. However, by the time they can actually prove that they'll hold their promise, they're already mayor, and therefore already have the power to do whatever they want.

So, my plan is to just play the game, with a secondary focus on the mayoral election. My vote will go on the person who I think is actually playing the game, and who I think is town. I'm not going to vote for the person who made the most promises he can't be held accountable for until he's actually the mayor, or whoever put the most bold green text and pictures in their campaign, and neither should you. Right now, it's likely to go on BC, depending on how he continues to post, and if I like what I see and get a town vibe from him. I'm not at that point yet, however.
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Mr. Wiggles
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada5894 Posts
January 14 2012 01:18 GMT
#819
On January 14 2012 09:08 kingjames01 wrote:
Alright, I've been at work all day and it's taken me quite a while to catch up in the reading.

I'm going to reiterate, that I support the Bodyguards being made public. There was a point raised earlier which suggested that if this plan were carried through, the elected officials would be more vulnerable. I don't think that is the case. I have already stated my reasoning but here is the idea again.

If at least one of the Bodyguards is Town, then they player has to die before our Mayor and/or Sheriff are vulnerable.

If both Bodyguards die, everyone will be on guard and can then start to protect the elected officials.

If at most one dies, then the Mayor and/or Sheriff are still safe. Why? Because the mafia will have to trade at least one of their own to kill the Mayor and/or Sheriff.


Next, I think the Mass Mason Roleclaim is a terrible plan. The mafia know the roles of 10 players out of 50, namely, their own players. If all of the Masons claim, then they know the roles of more players in the game. If they can, they will target our powerful Blue roles, like Town Jack, Medic, Detective.

Why are you guys okay with helping them to narrow down their targets?
[/red]
Aren't these ideas contradictory? You say that you support the names of the BG's being made public, but in the same post, say that you don't support a mass mason claim, while only citing the reason that it narrows the pool for mafia to shoot into when blue sniping. BG's are pulled from VTs and mafia if they choose to substitute them, so by making them public, you reduce the pool of non-VTs, insofar as mafia blue-sniping is concerned. How are these two ideas compatible?
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Mr. Wiggles
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada5894 Posts
January 14 2012 01:28 GMT
#822
Also, BC when are you claiming who you masoned with? I'd like confirmation about your role.

Right now, I'm leaning town on you. I've seen you manipulate townies before in PM as scum, and in light of that, your mason claim makes it seem like you're more likely to be town. I don't see a benefit for a scum BC to claim mason, when it puts a lot of pressure and suspicion on himself, when instead he can just win the election and use his secret mason role to manipulate townies. Instead, you're going to be forced to pretty much claim your target every day, and anyone you talk to is instantly going to be more on guard after all the discussion today.
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Mr. Wiggles
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada5894 Posts
January 14 2012 01:56 GMT
#845
Mattchew, what form of communication did you use with Foolishness? Would you mind sharing the logs? (Since foolishness thinks they make you look town, or that's what I'm inferring)

@Bum: I got the feeling from Cyber_Cheese that he just wanted to stir shit up all day long. A lot of his posts look to me like they're asking questions or making statements that someone could easily grab on to and start a pointless argument. Not generally conducive to a good town atmosphere.
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Mr. Wiggles
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
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January 14 2012 02:31 GMT
#865
Hey mattchew, why are you ignoring me?

And don't call yourself confirmed.
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