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Loving the player list, and confirming I'm back in town now.
Let's do this!!!
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On August 09 2011 06:06 GMarshal wrote:
I'm mildly disappointed by the lack of serial killers in this game :-P
How do you know that? *Sharpens knives*
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You are Mr. Wiggles! You are a dashingly handsome, clever, and witty fellow, who basks in the adulations and acclaim of all he meets. If you are accused of being scum on Day 1, your alignment will be that of town, however if you make it past Day 1 without being called scum, you will become a member of the mafia! Nonsensical, isn't it? As well, you love puzzles and riddles, so you may create some for yourself to solve, if you get bored.
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Who's the leader of the "Lynch Kavdragon Party" again?
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Friday I'm fishing, so I'll be gone for most of the day (Will still post, but will be missing for something like an 8 hour+ gap)
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It hasn't started yet, what are you reading!?
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On August 13 2011 14:08 GMarshal wrote:Show nested quote +On August 13 2011 14:05 Mr. Wiggles wrote:
It hasn't started yet, what are you reading!? He is obviously lying. LAL! Kavdragon for day 1 lynch!
He's feigning fake activity, by pretending to read the thread.
Also, Incog and Ver are obviously trying to create HYPE for the game, through constant delays in release. :p
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/confirm
Let's get this show on the road!
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Yeah, Bum is right. I don't think that names and alignment would be linked directly, as it would break the set-up somewhat through mass name-claims. As well, how would we decide what names are what alignment? I see it as people would be able to just twist it as they see fit, as a lot of players have had good games as town and mafia, or can fit into both alignments. For example, Ace is given as an example role for town in the OP, but a lot of people would probably try to argue that he's mafia as well. It's a very insubstantial way of scum hunting that I think we should try to avoid. Anyone pushing for someone's lynch just based on their name is probably scummy. (Or dumb)
Also, deconduo had a good post about the lynch rules:
On August 13 2011 19:31 deconduo wrote:
/confirm
Right, we got us here an interesting situation with the majority lynch rules. Unless we have a shortlist of targets by say 24 hours into the day, its going to be pretty fucking difficult to get anyone lynched.
People not voting for one of the top three candidates at the end of the day should considered scummy as fuck, especially if we don't reach a majority. We can't have anyone throwing away a vote cos of tunnelling/stupidity/OMGUS. Each vote is vital.
I agree with his sentiment, that it will be vital to consolidate votes as the day goes on. We don't want a situation where the vote is split amongst several people each with only a few votes on them, as then we either waste our lynch, or we're forced to try to switch around votes right before the deadline, giving scum a good chance to manipulate the lynch right before it happens. I think a major factor in this, will be people needing to actually think and read, judging who's scummiest, and dropping "protestation" votes and pressure votes (that are for information) before the deadline is up.
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Isn't brown made up from mixing all the colours together? :p
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5. This game follows Extended Majority Lynch Rules. Majority = #of players remaining in the game/2) + 1. Unlike in traditional majority lynch, the lynch is NOT decided the moment majority is reached. Instead, only the final vote count matters. If there is no majority at the deadline, the day ends with a no lynch. Non-voters will be modkilled for failure to vote.
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On August 14 2011 03:22 LSB wrote:Show nested quote +On August 14 2011 03:14 Kurumi wrote:On August 14 2011 03:14 Jackal58 wrote:On August 14 2011 03:02 Curu wrote:
I've already asked Incognito, you don't have to do anything special beyond what post restrictions are strictly outlined in your role PM.
So if you don't have a set-in-stone restriction to act like your role, stop it. It's extremely anti-Town by turning everyone into borderline trolls and making everyone hard to read. Scum can blend in oh so easily when everyone's trying their best to parody someone.
Yeah it's fun but we've had our spat, let's get down to business. From my role PM If Bill Murray’s identity every becomes known, you must campaign for his death no matter what. I'm not trying to parody or role play my personality. I'm compelled to get him lynched. Sorry. thanks god incognito said he will punish roleclaimers also I call bullshit because I am not bill murray Coag then? Seems unlikely since Coag doesn't troll the thread all the time
No, that would be all-caps and one to two liners, if it was traditional Coag. :p
Can we just drop who Kurumi may or may not be, and just ignore him for now? If the spam becomes unbearable we can just have a vig shoot him. (Also don't want to lynch a possible VI)
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On August 14 2011 03:35 Curu wrote:Show nested quote +On August 14 2011 03:30 Kurumi wrote:On August 14 2011 03:26 kitaman27 wrote:On August 14 2011 03:24 Kurumi wrote:On August 14 2011 03:21 kitaman27 wrote:On August 14 2011 03:18 Kurumi wrote:On August 14 2011 03:18 kitaman27 wrote:On August 14 2011 03:14 Kurumi wrote:On August 14 2011 03:14 Jackal58 wrote:On August 14 2011 03:02 Curu wrote:
I've already asked Incognito, you don't have to do anything special beyond what post restrictions are strictly outlined in your role PM.
So if you don't have a set-in-stone restriction to act like your role, stop it. It's extremely anti-Town by turning everyone into borderline trolls and making everyone hard to read. Scum can blend in oh so easily when everyone's trying their best to parody someone.
Yeah it's fun but we've had our spat, let's get down to business. From my role PM If Bill Murray’s identity every becomes known, you must campaign for his death no matter what. I'm not trying to parody or role play my personality. I'm compelled to get him lynched. Sorry. thanks god incognito said he will punish roleclaimers also I call bullshit because I am not bill murray If you're not BM, then why are you trolling as if you are BM? I never said I am Bill Murray, where did I god damnit? You decided to make your name Bill in the pokemon theme, have been spamming the thread, and hinted at a rivalry with L? Kurumi's real name is Antoni I don't know Bill Murray's real name though I know someone with Bill as real name I always spam the thread So its just a coincidence that you mentioned the BM/L rivalry and jackal has it in his role pm? I did not think about Bill Murray lol stop fishing my damn personality I was happy enough when everyone thought I was BM and put me in the useless box also if You mention "rivalry" in jackal's "PM" it means Jackal is L (he claims to be town aligned) and we have Bill Murray somewhere that would mean that either BM is 3rd Party/Scum or L is Scum/3rd party How does this make any sense? Why would you give a Townie a win condition that is "oh lynch this specific Mafia member" THAT'S THEIR GENERAL WIN CON ANYWAYS. Much more likely that Jackal is a Townie with the win con to see another Townie/harmless 3rd Party lynched or Jackal is 3rd Party in which case there's the possibility Bill Murray is scum but still unlikely.
Couple explanations:
-It's to get him lynched, meaning that he has to actually get him lynched, and not killed by a vig
-Roles were made before alignments were distributed
Also, it looks like a posting restriction, not a win-con. Meaning, he has to try to get BM lynched, and is forced to do so, but it may or may not coincide with his win-con. There's nothing stopping redundancy or counter-productiveness when it's just: "You have to try to get this guy lynched".
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I'm assuming Kenpachi is Pandain, and that's why he's claiming DT on day 1. (PS, he isn't one)
Foolishness is Kav.
Again, can people stop talking about Kurumi? He's spamming up the thread at this point, and it doesn't matter whether he's BM or not. If we don't like how he's acting, we vig him tonight.
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Kavdragon trolling now, too...
If it's not a post restriction, please stop.
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Has anyone else noticed that there is a seeming mass of people (Including many vets) who have not posted or contributed yet? It seems like it's the same, maybe 8 people actually discussing things right now.
List:
Dr. H
Node
~OpZ~
Misder
Barundar
Flamewheel
meapak_ziphh
youngminii
Scamp
RebirthOfLeGenD
Fishball (No posts)
Aidnai (No posts)
(I left out BC and Chezinu, because they mentioned they were going out)
Then there's guys like Foolishness, who only have troll posts.
It's a 32 player game, and 15 people have no actual game posts, with day being half over in 6 hours or so.
Where'd everyone go? =l
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On August 14 2011 06:40 Foolishness wrote:Show nested quote +On August 14 2011 06:28 Mr. Wiggles wrote:
Has anyone else noticed that there is a seeming mass of people (Including many vets) who have not posted or contributed yet? It seems like it's the same, maybe 8 people actually discussing things right now.
List:
Dr. H
Node
~OpZ~
Misder
Barundar
Flamewheel
meapak_ziphh
youngminii
Scamp
RebirthOfLeGenD
Fishball (No posts)
Aidnai (No posts)
(I left out BC and Chezinu, because they mentioned they were going out)
Then there's guys like Foolishness, who only have troll posts.
It's a 32 player game, and 15 people have no actual game posts, with day being half over in 6 hours or so.
Where'd everyone go? =l Hark! Do point out where I have made a troll post if you dare! A nice bluff you seek here, perhaps you wish me dead so that your mafia team can rest easy once I have departed. Or is it that you fail to read between the lines? I assure you that I am very serious about my campaign platform, and I do not enjoy those that seek to erect brick walls in my path. For that is the mafia ploy: building walls in front of the townies. But I will not have any of it! I will take my bulldozer and plow right through all your walls. And by the end it is you that will be lying crumpled beneath the heap of bricks, where not even your fellow mafia dare dig to recover your rotten flesh.
Nice to see you're around, Sir Foolishness. I thought you might be Kav, but I'm probably wrong. (Unless your diction is self-imposed)
What are your thoughts on the game so far? What do you think about Jackal and Kurumi? What do you think about other potential lynch candidates? What do you think about the rather deplorable level of activity exhibited so far?
People aren't talking, and that's a cause for concern. It's just the same people talking about the same stuff (mostly). Let's actually get this game going, please.
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On August 14 2011 07:50 Foolishness wrote:Show nested quote +On August 14 2011 07:16 Mr. Wiggles wrote:On August 14 2011 06:40 Foolishness wrote:On August 14 2011 06:28 Mr. Wiggles wrote:
Has anyone else noticed that there is a seeming mass of people (Including many vets) who have not posted or contributed yet? It seems like it's the same, maybe 8 people actually discussing things right now.
List:
Dr. H
Node
~OpZ~
Misder
Barundar
Flamewheel
meapak_ziphh
youngminii
Scamp
RebirthOfLeGenD
Fishball (No posts)
Aidnai (No posts)
(I left out BC and Chezinu, because they mentioned they were going out)
Then there's guys like Foolishness, who only have troll posts.
It's a 32 player game, and 15 people have no actual game posts, with day being half over in 6 hours or so.
Where'd everyone go? =l Hark! Do point out where I have made a troll post if you dare! A nice bluff you seek here, perhaps you wish me dead so that your mafia team can rest easy once I have departed. Or is it that you fail to read between the lines? I assure you that I am very serious about my campaign platform, and I do not enjoy those that seek to erect brick walls in my path. For that is the mafia ploy: building walls in front of the townies. But I will not have any of it! I will take my bulldozer and plow right through all your walls. And by the end it is you that will be lying crumpled beneath the heap of bricks, where not even your fellow mafia dare dig to recover your rotten flesh. Nice to see you're around, Sir Foolishness. I thought you might be Kav, but I'm probably wrong. (Unless your diction is self-imposed) What are your thoughts on the game so far? What do you think about Jackal and Kurumi? What do you think about other potential lynch candidates? What do you think about the rather deplorable level of activity exhibited so far? People aren't talking, and that's a cause for concern. It's just the same people talking about the same stuff (mostly). Let's actually get this game going, please. It is as you say. The same people talking about the same stuff. Yet we all know by now that this stuff is useless to talk about. Kurumi is being his usual self is he not? Jackal is merely acting in his required role description. Nothing about alignment in there. Forget everything they talk about, it only hampers the town's progress. Tonight the town will be busy. Saturday night, all the missing people shall return, and from there we can find a good lynch target. But for now we must entertain ourselves with the few mafia that are trying to blend in. I read through Mig's posts with a certain delight, as I know it shall not be long before the noose hangs red in his blood.
So, do you have any particular reasons you believe Mig to be scummy? If you want to actually get him lynched, you're going to have to give some reasons for why the rest of town should vote with you. I'm trying to see where you're coming from, but am having a bit of trouble, from just the 4 posts that existed from him when you wrote this.
Regarding the argument between Kav and Aidnai, it looks weird to me. I don't know why exactly, but just how they're posting and arguing, it seems a bit off. Maybe it's just because they're related so they're going to write a bit differently to each other, but I don't know. =l
Aidnai reacted very oddly and defensively to Kav's accusations, but Kav's been acting oddly all game, and there's the possibility that he's third party. I'd like to see more from Aidnai, who doesn't really have many posts. What reasons do you have for thinking Kav is scum beyond the OMGUS? What are your thoughts on other players?
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There's about 6 hours left in the day, right?
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On August 15 2011 06:02 Jackal58 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 15 2011 05:52 deconduo wrote:On August 15 2011 05:27 Kavdragon wrote:On August 15 2011 05:02 VisceraEyes wrote:On August 15 2011 04:18 Node wrote:First, hai guys. Busy weekend, family's in town, yadda yadda yadda. Second, what. The. Fuck. This is beyond bad. There's a reason a lot of people aren't contributing: it's almost impossible to contribute to this mess without making it worse. I propose that everyone simply stops posting so damn much, and tries to consolidate what would normally be 3 posts down to 1, so that there's a lot less fluff for everybody to digest whenever they want to figure something out or make a point. I kinda-sorta agree with Pandain's actions so far, and I'm really disappointed that he seems to have been shot. I think Kurumi's been detrimental to the town, and I think he knows this. He's done a huge part in establishing the terrible atmosphere we've currently got, and his actions have made it impossible to just ignore the spam he's throwing around. He's gone straight to the chainsaw defense when people call him out, and claimed one of the few roles that would be worth playing risky to keep around. Pandain just made one crucial mistake: even if he's not roleplaying Bill Murray, kurumi is still kurumi. He's still gonna spew nonsensical BS. Personally, I would've rather he just be shot, as it still covers the VI possibility and saves us from any future thread-destroying shenanigans from that particular source. I also find it hard to buy that the Qatol personality would be mafia-aligned, no matter how much everyone says personality != alignment. And since nobody's counter-claimed him, I'm inclined to believe Pandain is both Qatol and town-aligned. On August 15 2011 02:32 VisceraEyes wrote:
Okay guys, I'm going to go ahead and vote for Kavdragon. After rereading the thread (/wrist) I've determined that he's one of the most obviously anti-town players in the game. This nonsense about 'brown' and his ridiculous fake letters are clearly attempts to confuse town. If I had to guess, I'd say he's probably an alternate faction of some kind - the cult leader hypothesis has merit, but I'm leaning more toward an alternate scum faction. I'm not sure. But he's almost certainly not town, because not only is he ignoring the scum-hunting of others in town, he's also ACTIVELY trying to divert town's attention to his shenanigans.
Kavdragon, I'd like to see you hang today.
##Vote: Kavdragon This is an interesting way to interpret kav's actions. I'm not sure I agree with it, though. You say that he's trying to divert our actions. I ask, what exactly is he trying to divert us from? Considering how aimless this game has been, Kav might be one of the few trying to put us on a worthwhile track. I don't think he's necessarily town, but I'm willing to wait and see in this case. It looks like a very obvious (and very successful) attempt to keep town from ACTUALLY hunting scum. Yes, I believe his nonsense is related to his role...but it's still nonsense guys. Waldon? Mysterious communications with anonymous players? Intrigue? NONE of it is scumhunting. ALL of it is ridiculous. I think he's trying to divert us from real scumhunting by claiming that he's doing so with...whoever. Node, you're smarter than this and I think the fact that you're entertaining this farce is extremely suspicious. I would like to point out that I am the only person thus far who has done any "scumhunting" thus far. (As most "analysis" have been poor and not anything that would set a lynch.) I set the trap for inactive people, and Aidnai jumped in it. Silly VE doens't want to give me the benefit of the doubt. A better question: Why not Aidnai? He's only come in to defend himself, and then dissapeared. Do you dissagree with my analysis of his reaction to my pressure? You will notice that I almost never posted something about Walton by itself. I always gave advice to the town, tried to get people to stop spaming, or commented on some situation, and then, as an addendum, added the Walton stuff on. I did this because I knew that nobody would understand Walton, and that it could NOT be the only thing I contributed. Deconduo: + Show Spoiler +We both arrived at a location that was NOT our respective homes, but had internet, firday night. I received my role PM then, and offered to log out and let him check his. He declined. After that he had a few opportunities to get on, but nothing much until about 3 PM PST. He had about 5 hours to post at that point however, yet he didn't even say Hi. So yes, it's not as strong as if he had been looking all day, but it's still extremely suspicious that after being on for ~5 hours, he responded very quickly to my attack. To those of you who think that I'm a cultist: "Recruiting" Kurumi was an attempt to get him to stop spammign, and make him uesful for the town. You will notice that every public action has the hashtag form, and I have never used that. This means that if I have a recruiting power, it would have to be private, in which case why would I make it public that I was recruiting Kurumi? It makes no sense. I am not a cultist, I amd town. (Oh, and there. I deny being anything other than town. Not so sure what's magical about those words, but if you want them, there they are.) That sounds pretty damning to me. My two top scum suspects at the moment are Aidnai and LSB. I would prefer to get LSB lynched but that isn't going to happen with 6 hours left. I'm somewhat aprehensive about trusting you, but you're not dumb enough to offer a 1 for 1 trade if you aren't certain. Don't expect to wiggle out of it if aidnai flips town though. Vote Aidnai Decon- When and where did you post the spoiler in Kavs post????
He didn't, that was Kav addressing him in a spoiler. -_-
Aidnai, do you anything else to say about the game, besides just tunneling Kav?
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