ok this game will be gooooooood, first of all im going to simplify this game and spare the town a lot of rubbish.
[G] The Watermark
This is how you create a watermark on your PMs :
http://www.gax.nl/wiskundePO/
generate some key and then give us this :
P: 8237
Q: 9491
N: 78177367
PI: 78159640
D: 20513187
you keep E to yourself. E is used to encrypt stuff, this means you encrypt stuff everyone can decrypt but only you can encrypt.
Now every time you send a pm of any signifigance you just go like :

pm pm, pm blah blah blah xyz is scum ,Dr helvetica is a hero etc
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
(same message but encrypted with your key)

this way no forged pms will be thrown in. pretty good huh?
now to prevent this to become a call to spam, simply put it in a spoiler your next. I dont care if you spam dr helvetica fanboyism to everyone without a password, however if you make some kind of claim, give it your watermark. That or just make it a habit to watermark your pms, do it for the town

You need however to encrypt the whole message, because the unencrypted part could get messed with.
+ Show Spoiler +

P: 8237
Q: 9491
N: 78177367
PI: 78159640
D: 20513187
keep E (the encoder) secret

this is what you need to decrypt my watermark.

WARNING: make sure you store your key nice and good, dont be a derp.

therefore people can only forge your pms if you let them (and dont watermark every pm)
youre welcome.
read this if you cant figure the site out:
+ Show Spoiler +

to encrypt a message you first need to click on "sleutelset generen" post your watermark here, go to encoder and convert your text to ascII by putting the original text in the first line, click the button "omzetten naar "ASCII" then hit "versleutel" you got your watermark.

and thats how you watermark, use it as you wish. (very usefull in QTs, making sure no one pretends to be you etc. you can use it for PMs, its very unexplored imo)

TheAwesomeAll

Netherlands1609 Posts

August 02 2011 19:07 GMT

#247

sandrobas plan is never going to work so lets stop discussing it. DrH is right that sinse there is no way everyone is going to vote mafia can either mess with it or abstain from it defeating the purpose of the secondary lynch. On another note drH is scum.

TheAwesomeAll

Netherlands1609 Posts

August 03 2011 11:28 GMT

#364

On August 03 2011 12:30 JeeJee wrote:
looks like cobbles picked up on the same thing i have. what particularly irks me about drazerk today is that he has been posting in the other mafia thread on his usual time of 5-10kst +/-1hr so he has been reading this thread as well. but he declined to weigh in, leaving his vote as-is (essentially throwaway). didnt even answer a simple "how are you" =(

usually when people say 'lurking is a scumtell', i disagree because they clump 'afk' and 'lurk' as interchangeable. afking means nothing as far as i'm concerned, just look at ace in snmm5. lurking (ie being there but not speaking) a la drazerk is a different story.

still not voting, but i'll be here before the deadline tomorrow, no worries.

1) drazerks lurks so hes scum
2) i dont want to commit with my vote, i do it dead line style (so i can hop that infamous day1 bandwagon last second)
3) did i mention im still not voting, i didnt commit anything here, please dont notice me

On August 03 2011 12:42 JeeJee wrote:
actually screw it let's get the ball rolling.
anyone disagree with drazerk as a candidate?

4) lol? (opinions are dangerous)
##vote JeeJee

TheAwesomeAll

Netherlands1609 Posts

August 03 2011 16:47 GMT

#388

if varp gets modkilled lucid will get lynched.

TheAwesomeAll

Netherlands1609 Posts

August 03 2011 17:18 GMT

#397

why is the amount of votes on a person a reason? rather vote on real scum like jeejee.

TheAwesomeAll

Netherlands1609 Posts

August 03 2011 18:34 GMT

#398

Ok JeeJee, since you are probably not going to get lynched im going to hit you tonight. Unless you can convince me of your own innocence, and someone else's scummyness (yes im trigger happy)

TheAwesomeAll

Netherlands1609 Posts

August 03 2011 19:12 GMT

#402

munk e did you just claim scum? Because i specificly asked jeejee to make a case for someone else. If you do it for him this would ruin the purpose of my pressure bullet.

TheAwesomeAll

Netherlands1609 Posts

August 03 2011 21:30 GMT

#414

ym you are stealing my thoughts and then post them, if varp flips red the other vigi hit munk e( if there is another one)

TheAwesomeAll

Netherlands1609 Posts

August 04 2011 07:31 GMT

#513

On August 04 2011 01:32 BloodyC0bbler wrote:

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As I have just mentioned on IRC. Varp was insanely easily bandwagon'd and lucidity had the looks of an easy bandwagon. I am usually wary of people voting for someone with very little information to go on.

Factoring in that I know draz has been around TL but just not posting made him look like a safer inactive choice.

However, what massive shift are you talking about? The 2 votes currently on draz? Varp still has the majority and no one has made a strong enough case to create a vote shift large enough to overtake that at the moment.

Care to explain this "massive shift" you are talking about.

soft defending drazerk here with your first post with any content. Notice how you explicitly avoided calling him town, since you knew that wasnt true.
The rest of your posts have been mostly the "im posting something therefore im active plz dont lynch me" kind of posts.
Thats why people think you are scum.

TheAwesomeAll

Netherlands1609 Posts

August 04 2011 11:11 GMT

#515

blues you know what to do

TheAwesomeAll

Netherlands1609 Posts

August 04 2011 13:29 GMT

#518

cb and jeejee could both be scum, this is chaos 13

On August 03 2011 06:42 chaos13 wrote:

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What is Mig doing? He is scumhunting. I would not be okay with a lynch on Mig unless he makes some sort of blatantly obvious scum slip. Lucidity and Varpulis are being far more scummy than Mig is.

protecting mig (might be a scum hug of dead)

On August 03 2011 09:22 chaos13 wrote:

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Don't forget about this. I really hate when players say they will and then fail to contribute, because then I have to get them lynched. They're usually scum though, so it works out well in the end.

fossing for very weak reasons

On August 03 2011 21:14 chaos13 wrote:

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This is quite possible, and Varp is looking really really bad right about now. On a scum scale I would put Varp and Drazerk at the same level, but there is one difference: Varp is relatively active, whereas Drazerk has managed to come across as scum in 4 posts and then vanished completely. Varp tomorrow, or maybe a vig hit on him tonight. Today I feel better voting for Draz

for very weak reasons voting on drazerk, a trend weve been seeing with all scummy people.
Imo chaos is very likely scum. He hasnt formed a real opinion the whole game the 2 people he accused were munk e for not delivering and drazerk for lurking.
Also there was a logical flaw in why he accused drazerk namely that people thought he drazerk scum because of the lurking, but chaos went a step further by saying drazerk is scum BECAUSE hes lurking AND hes lurking on top of that so he was more scummy then varp. ( he counted the lurking twice)
imo there is a clear line between jee jee and chaos, both calling out drazerk for lurking. Its their talking point.
If there are vigis in the house hit one of those two, you cant miss.