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kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
June 27 2011 21:42 GMT
#20
/in
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
July 05 2011 16:41 GMT
#300
/confirm

Yay its finally started. I only had a chance to skim the thread during my lunch break, but I'll be able to post more once I get out of work. I would suggest everyone commenting on the setup. Pointing out flaws in Sandroba or GM's plan allows you to blend in, but proposing solutions is much more helpful. At least half the town hasn't blown each other up yet.
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kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
July 06 2011 00:18 GMT
#403
Its going to be pretty hard to prevent people from firing on impulse, I just ask that you post in the thread your intentions and sit on it for an hour before doing so. Getting a reaction from the town is just as important as firing the nuke. If the entire town shoots down your nuke target, listen to them. The entire time isn't trying to work against you. Retaliation nuking is a good deterrent for preventing scum for firing on town. They won't be willing to make a 1:1 trade. If we get lucky, hopefully we can just kill of the conspirator in the first couple of days and not have to worry about the radiation level. For a reference, does anyone have the radiation cap from the previous game?

Palmar, what exactly were you trying to accomplish with your fake nuke? Seems like you need to follow your own advice.

On July 05 2011 19:18 Palmar wrote:
I'm not gonna shit up the thread


On July 05 2011 20:19 Palmar wrote:
But hey, I adhere to my own plan though, I'm not going to nuke anyone unless I have a really good reason to, cause you know, I'm actually going to try and win this thing.


On July 05 2011 22:08 chaos13 wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
(Your Name)'s Plan for Not Letting the Conspirator Win

Nuke Policy
Fire/Don't Fire under the following circumstances:

Punishment
This is what happens if you break the rules:

Why
Explanation for why this is the best plan:

Support
How does this plan compare to WaW 1? How could it have affected the results of that game?

Other Tidbits
Anything else you want to say.

[b]##Vote: (Your Name)'s Plan[/b[


Why are you proposing a formatting for plan submission without posting a plan yourself? That seems kinda weird.

As for the campaign, Dunkirk seems pretty obvious the best pro-town choice. It's essentially buying the town 3 vets. I'm really confused at a couple people's initial evaluation of the campaigns. I would like the people who didn't vote for Dunkirk to explain their positioning better.

##Vote Dunkirk

Also, ##Vote Zona
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kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
July 06 2011 11:23 GMT
#520
Mataza, do you have any nukes or are you only trying to get a reaction like Palmar? When does the lynch end? The last thing we need is to assume a nuke is in the air and then learn the day is just about over. If you did indeed fire, I'll be voting you Mataza. Otherwise, I'll probably keep my vote on one of the modkill candidates.
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kitaman27 *
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United States9245 Posts
July 06 2011 11:40 GMT
#527
On July 06 2011 20:28 syllogism wrote:
Why would you vote for someone who is going to get modkilled


If mafia only has 1 kp like Sandroba says, this game is going to drag on pretty long if we nuke each other half to death. Lynching whoever gets modkilled will extend the game by an entire cycle. If Mataza did indeed nuke Sandroba then I'll happily switch my vote over to him (unless Sandroba flips scum).
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
July 06 2011 11:40 GMT
#528
On July 06 2011 20:40 kitaman27 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 06 2011 20:28 syllogism wrote:
Why would you vote for someone who is going to get modkilled


If mafia only has 1 kp like Sandroba says, this game is going to drag on pretty long unless we nuke each other half to death. Lynching whoever gets modkilled will extend the game by an entire cycle. If Mataza did indeed nuke Sandroba then I'll happily switch my vote over to him (unless Sandroba flips scum).


EBWOP
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kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
July 07 2011 00:50 GMT
#1244
Have no fear, Kita is here!

Sorry guys, tl.net is blocked at work so I can only post in the morning, at lunch and when I get home. Plus, I had two grad parties this week so its been pretty crazy.

Seriously, if you really have to nuke, post in the thread ahead of time so town can react and talk you out of it if necessary. This impulse nuking is creating a chaotic environment.

On July 07 2011 01:44 youngminii wrote:
oh my bad i thought he nuked gmarshal

lol i'm stupid


...Really?

On July 07 2011 06:43 Cthsazsa wrote:
LOL Palmar just gave me an awesome Idea.

Starting at $6000 I'll nuke someone of your choice!
The only person who could afford it is Drazerk, so multiple people are allowed to combine their cash.

I am using Palmar currency.


If your going to nuke, it has to be your own decision. You can't use other's fake money to fire a nuke at someone and then use that as an excuse to not take any of the blame.

On July 07 2011 02:59 syllogism wrote:
What an awful town


What a condescending scum.

On July 07 2011 01:08 Ciryandor wrote:
First, this is MY FIRST GAME, so if I'm not going to be as contributory as you should think a townie would be, then you have my complete naiveté with regards to TL Mafia's meta to thank for. This makes me emphasize having the voice of reason and economy of speech so townies can think straight and not be emotionally swayed.


Obligatory frown at someone trying to play the noob card as an excuse why they don't plan to contribute.

On July 07 2011 03:10 sandroba wrote:
YM is town. Possibly mataza too. GMarshal is scum. No one is following the supposed policy and my patience has worn out.
Don't fire any nukes at me cuz I'm fucking imortal. If they do, don't shoot them down, cuz it's not worth it just for the radiation at this point.
##Nuke GMarshal


Now this part I don't get. First you write up a big post about how Palmar is scum, yet don't nuke him. Yet instead you call GM scum in one line and then proceed to nuke him without asking town's opinion. Do you have information that we don't? Combined with the fact that you leaked the scum's kp, the only reason I'm not firing a nuke back at you is your role claim hasn't been counter-claimed. The fact that you and mataza are from the troll faction makes me feel that you are forced to fire nukes or troll the thread or something. Do you have some hidden role text that is making you two act so weird?

Palmar's random role claim was certainly bizarre. Perhaps he knew the real conspirator would never counter-claimed and hoped town would ignore him for the rest of the game? Either way, if he is scum or third party, he is confirmed anti-town and would be a good lynch target today.
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kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
July 07 2011 01:00 GMT
#1249
On July 07 2011 09:59 chaos13 wrote:
kita, members of the troll faction don't have to troll the thread or be stupid in any way. If they have some sort of restriction like that it's because of their role, not their faction.


Can we get a confirmation from Sandroba or Mataza that their roles don't require any trolling of the thread?
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kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
July 07 2011 17:23 GMT
#1450
Wait, so GMarshal, you're saying you "forgot" that you had two extra lives, wasted an anti-nuke to save yourself, learned that it didn't work, and lived because you re-read your role? Something seems off...

Anyone wanna claim redirecting the missile from YM? Also, did you launch and anti-nuke JeeJee or do you have an ability that protects you from dieing to nukes? The post hinted at radio signals.

"A cultist that can win with town" worries me. Seems like there is another party that we will have to worry about. Does "Chapel of Ze" mean anything to anyone? It would be nice if we could connect who would belong in the group with Trotsky. Marx perhaps?
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
July 08 2011 02:42 GMT
#1515
YM, can you confirm you have no idea how the nuke aimed at you got redirected yesterday? I'm really wondering why someone would save you, but not be willing to claim so in the thread.

Also, lurker list of shame. These guys better start shaping up their play. Mafia wants to be especially careful to avoid confrontation with all the kp available to town so lurkers are even more dangerous than usual this game.

Ciryandor - Plays the newbie card for not contributing. Playing very passive.
GGQ - He has the same number of posts in this thread as the voting thread. Played a lurky game as scum recently in XXXIX.
Misder - I didn't even realize you were playing this game
Zona - With 220 posts this week, I kinda would expect more than four of them be put towards this game.
gtrsrs - No posts.
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kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
July 08 2011 16:43 GMT
#1588
On July 08 2011 23:46 GMarshal wrote:
@Zona, my explanation is not everchanging, I thought I was going to die because I misread my role PM.


What reason did you have to think you were going to die? Didn't you fire an anti-nuke to save yourself? Unless you anticipated your anti-nuke wasn't going to work, you wouldn't have worried about getting killed off.

On July 09 2011 01:11 chaos13 wrote:
Today should be much better though with operation Watchtower.


Wait, watchtower passed? I thought dunkirk won by a fair amount.
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
July 09 2011 01:59 GMT
#1648
On July 09 2011 01:46 GMarshal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 09 2011 01:43 kitaman27 wrote:
On July 08 2011 23:46 GMarshal wrote:
@Zona, my explanation is not everchanging, I thought I was going to die because I misread my role PM.


What reason did you have to think you were going to die? Didn't you fire an anti-nuke to save yourself? Unless you anticipated your anti-nuke wasn't going to work, you wouldn't have worried about getting killed off.


I fired an anti-nuke at the missile targeting mataza. I didn't feel like arguing about my innocence for the next 3 days, so I was willing to take the nuke and save someone I thought was town.

Things didn't work out that way.


This doesn't make sense at all. Why would you sacrifice yourself who you know is town, for someone else who may or may not be town. Especially someone like Mataza who was creating nothing but chaos.

@Sandroba: What was the purpose of your fake zombie claim? What were you trying to accomplish with that? Also, after posting a one-liner that GM is scum and nuking him, have you changed your mind about him? If so, what in the last 24 hours changed your opinion?
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kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
July 09 2011 16:37 GMT
#1912
Drazerk, the timing of your claim doesn't make sense. If you truly wanted to find heart, wouldn't it make more sense to claim at the beginning of today to prevent any nukes from firing or at the beginning of day three now that a nuke has already been fired? Does the fact that YM's nuke is fake still prevent you from finding heart?

Sandroba its been awful convenient the way you are firing nukes and then suddenly changing your mind about peoples alignments. I think all zombies should be forced to claim now. If you are truly aligned with the allies then you should have nothing to hide. That way, if we later learn the zombies are another scum/3rd party team, we can hold them accountable. In addition, we won't increase the radiation level by firing at targets that can't be nuked. After this grace period, claiming zombie won't be accepted as a valid excuse for living. The only problem with this is there might be a scum that claims zombie to try and prevent being targeted, but they will have to risk drawing serious attention to themselves.

GM, why did you choose call for a policy nuke on gtr? He is not a lurker. He is an inactive who is clearly paying no attention to the thread. There are far better people to target as lurkers like GGQ, I also found it weird that Eiii felt guilty for not appearing on my original lurker list. Finally, Coag has been far less aggressive than I'm used to.

Can we please not fire a nuke until the other person can respond to your intentions? If YM would have waited, then deconduo would have been able to claim a brit and his bonus life wouldn't have been wasted. It also doesn't give any one else a chance to argue for or against the nuke which limits our information.

@Caller/ON, could we have a clarification for the ultra operation? Does it only reveal the scum kp target or does it reveal the targets of other scum abilities as well? If its the former, then it would reveal only a single night hit, which would be useless unless the target managed to survive the hit. Even so, when zero hits show up in the day post, that person can claim the hit just as easily. If it reveals all scum night actions, then the power seems much more useful.
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kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
July 09 2011 16:40 GMT
#1915
On July 10 2011 01:38 Drazerk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 10 2011 01:37 kitaman27 wrote:
Drazerk, the timing of your claim doesn't make sense. If you truly wanted to find heart, wouldn't it make more sense to claim at the beginning of today to prevent any nukes from firing or at the beginning of day three now that a nuke has already been fired? Does the fact that YM's nuke is fake still prevent you from finding heart?


It was a joke, I was getting annoyed by all the nukes and people listen to captain planet.


Stop spamming? K thx
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kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
July 09 2011 21:44 GMT
#2059
If the scum have a flip framer, then this is essentially a no flip game. Perhaps the Marco Polo operation was responsible and it was only a one time deal. Hopefully, it was just caller trolling us with two near identical teams -_-

Coag seems pretty confirmed unless there is a counter-claim. Also, where has opz been the last day? He hasn't responded to the fact that he is currently leading the lynch.

prplhz, why nuke misder? What separates him from the other lurkers, like GGQ. He has been playing extremely non-committal this game, as if he doesn't want to upset anyone.

On July 07 2011 13:48 GGQ wrote:
Guys I don't like:

Mig, Cthsazsa, deconduo

No, I'm not going to justify that right now because I have to go to bed because I work tomorrow. I pray this game looks better in the morning light.


He lists the three people he is suspicious of, but never goes into detail of why he thinks so. This seems like an attempt to seem like he is contributing, without actually posting any solid accusations.

On July 07 2011 14:27 GGQ wrote:
I'm gonna switch to Palmar since sandroba isn't getting lynched.

It's gonna be hard to have an opinion until the dust clears tomorrow. Right now this town couldn't find it's own ass with a compass.


Even after the dust settles he doesn't give us an opinion.

On July 09 2011 09:57 GGQ wrote:
Because that worked so well yesterday...

Yeah, that's right, I'm here kids. The age of the Great Lurk is over, and GGQ has arrived to play some mafia. I think GMarshal is sketchy as fuck but I thought so last game too, and I was wrong. Who knows? Sandroba is shifty as well, but hey he's a zombie (ftr I went to Moscow and saw Lenin's corpse, it wasn't moving when I was there) so we're probably best off killing him. Hopefully vigilantes will take care of that issue since we can't do it with nukes and we'd rather lynch scum.


Calls GMarshal scummy, but with no resolve. Mentions that Sandroba is shifty, but has made no push to do anything about it.

On July 09 2011 09:57 GGQ wrote:
So I called out three players earlier, I'm still leery on deconduo but Mig seems pretty straight up to me nowadays. My main suspicion now is Cthsaza/Paqman who I would like to promote as a primary lynch target for the next cycle (as soon as Caller deigns to honour us with a day post). I'll write an analysis later is no one else is convinced just by me mentioning his name.


More of the same. He lists a bunch of names, but provides no reasoning nor any attempt to sway town. He suggets a primary lynch target without any reasoning. He promises analysis without ever following through. I still want to here from opz, but I think GGQ would be a great lynch candidate as well.


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kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
July 09 2011 21:46 GMT
#2060
Also, based on Caller's description, Ultra seems pretty much a lock for tomorrow's operation.
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kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
July 09 2011 22:18 GMT
#2075
On July 10 2011 07:18 Kurumi wrote:
##nuke Sunshine Hitler
come at me mafias


Why would you nuke yourself? :p
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kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
July 10 2011 00:59 GMT
#2125
On July 10 2011 09:56 GGQ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 10 2011 09:40 GGQ wrote:
On July 10 2011 09:38 Drazerk wrote:
GGQ you just bought yourself a death with that stealth vote and the constant lurking.

We shall fight on the beaches,
we shall fight on the landing grounds,
we shall fight in the fields and in the streets,
we shall fight in the hills;
We shall never surrender!

##Nuke: GGQ


lol that was fucking stupid. At least threaten me so I can prove I'm town first.


Nobody was interested in this?


In what way is your alignment confirmable?
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kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
July 10 2011 04:29 GMT
#2239
Aww, you're trying to kill me Mig? That's not very cool.
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kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
July 10 2011 19:17 GMT
#2500
Cool, we finally hit some scum.

I guess there is no harm in me claiming.

I'm the Pacifist Ocean.

Once per night I can launch a Tsunami at a player and if it hits someone from the Moonspeak Empire it cripples their nuclear capabilities. I didn't start with any nukes, but after Mig redirected one at me, I was told that a nuke had fallen out of the sky and was at my disposal.

I also have some powers dealing with a campaign if its chosen, but I won't reveal that yet. My win condition is surviving to endgame, unless the conspirator wins.

Last night, I targeted GGQ.
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