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/in sounds exiting 
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No surprise, the thread is being spammed up with nothing but technical issues "lets create a pro town atmosphere" and references to old mafia games.
Dont spent any more posts on the new interesting format!~
New formats in general favor scum because they are allowed to talk about technical issues the first day, town shoots some noob/lurker and everyone is happy.
The lurker mechanism is just a call to spam, but GMarshal is really pushing it. Your clock is ticking, cute.
This is the one of the few good posts made so far:
On June 28 2011 14:44 sinani206 wrote:Pro-Town atmosphere would ideally be: - No taking lead.
Being a "leader" seems really scummy to me. I just have this innate bias that leaders are mafia, and even though there is quite a slim chance of them being scum, if they are, town has already lost.
- No spamming.
As has been mentioned before, all spamming does is derail town. It makes posts hard to find and confuses people so that scum are harder to analyse and pin for what they really are.
- Active scumhunting.
Scumhunting is obviously very pro-town. It gives the town a good discussion point and helps (obviously) find mafia. No reason not to do this.
- No lurking.
Lurking is confusing for all players who aren't lurking. It makes you hard to analyse. Obviously with all the anti-lurking abilities in this game, it isn't much of an issue, but keep this in mind.
That pretty much covers it. If anyone has any additions, feel free to share. Keep all of these points in mind when posting and analyzing. Off to play some SotIS and then go to sleep. Probably won't check the thread until morning. Good night folks!
So instead of another technical issue or something im going to point the first FoS in the game.
The most spammy player in the game:
On June 28 2011 12:13 hiro protagonist wrote:
Sup town!
I am 100% behind Gmarshal about lurkers/trolls. that is all I have to say about that.
so everyone, lets get into it: towns lurker KP should be used once any lurker list is up. As such, I doubt very much that we will need to do a policy lynch on lurkers (which is something I almost always advocate).
Conversely: mafia, with the lurker mod on, will try and be spammy. Vigs, please,please,PLEASE, just shoot anyone that is cluttering up the thread with nonsense.
yeah...
On June 28 2011 12:39 hiro protagonist wrote:Show nested quote +On June 28 2011 12:24 Mr. Wiggles wrote:On June 28 2011 12:20 youngminii wrote:On June 28 2011 12:13 hiro protagonist wrote:
Sup town!
I am 100% behind Gmarshal about lurkers/trolls. that is all I have to say about that.
so everyone, lets get into it: towns lurker KP should be used once any lurker list is up. As such, I doubt very much that we will need to do a policy lynch on lurkers (which is something I almost always advocate).
Conversely: mafia, with the lurker mod on, will try and be spammy. Vigs, please,please,PLEASE, just shoot anyone that is cluttering up the thread with nonsense.
Do not do this, Vig you should be targeting who they feel is scum, not anyone that is spammy. First off, scum are not stupid, they won't be spamming up the thread for the sake of spamming the thread. Second, by saying "just shoot anyone that is cluttering up the thread with nonsense" in the thread will obviously signal scum to be very delicate and careful with their posting. FoS on you for this, it's a very flawed plan, everyone knows what a lurker is and what's not, if someone appears to be spammy and their playstyle lines up with scum then go ahead and shoot them but as soon as you start directing who the Vig should hit publically is when mafia get an advantage. Also, since lurking is defined by third party judgement, there's a chance that Spammers will also show up on the lurker list, due to quality of posts and actual word count. Shoot who you think is scummy, not who you think is worthless. -_- Your right, Vigs should hit those who are scummy. Those that are Spamming the thread are acting scummy. I didn't make a plan, I was giving out words of wisdom. Don't twist my words please. @Wiggles: you remember PTP right? I don't want that to happen with this thread...
talking about lurkers like his live depends on it, i would love it if people stopped mentioning other games without explanation.
On June 28 2011 13:06 hiro protagonist wrote:
@LSB: What do you have in mind? speaking for myself, I cant think of a way to abuse it because the list is chosen from a 3rd party...
The lurker mechanism is soooooo interesting.
And to top it all of, something that is so ridiculously safe to post
On June 28 2011 13:34 hiro protagonist wrote:
Ok, chaos, he is a list:
GMarshal
youngminii
Jackal58
~OpZ~
Mr. Wiggles
Kenpachi
these are the most skilled/vets players in this game. Fun fact: GMarshal has never been lynched as town. Another fun fact: Mr. Wiggles has been mafia the last 2 games I played with him.
The following players I would describe as skilled, or at least very active when playing town:
DropBear
Cthsazsa
Mig
sandroba
VisceraEyes
Palmar
Varpulis
Everyone else I have no experience playing with.
a list. A No Information List to be exact. You know the thing noob scum (like me in XL) post. Safe free town cred.
please please please stop the spam
The other guy im keeping an eye on is GMarshal.
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On June 28 2011 16:25 GMarshal wrote:Show nested quote +On June 28 2011 16:14 sandroba wrote:
OK, I'm very convinced GM is scum right now. The fact that LSB died is plain and simple. The moment he proposed his plan he was confirmed town, as no mafia would ever propose a plan like that.
The reason I think he is mafia is because
1) He ninja'ed me and identified it, and as such we know he is capable of doing it (I don't think any other player realise this yet, amongst the active)
2) He claimed to have thought of the plan, but as scum he obviously did not mention it until LSB did.
3) He's pushing vigs to shoot lurkers, when clearly mafia won't be there.
4) YM is posting completely anti-town stuff about blues. Mafia still has 2 kp left so LOL at medics not protecting people today. Also RB doesn't do shit to vigilante. The fact that GM did not catch on this can only mean 1 of the 2: YM is also scum with GM or YM is tripping hard and GM knows he's town and must maintain his position earlier of YM being town to not rise any suspicion. Either way GM is scum. Sure thing. Please post a more coherent argument. Let me reply to what you have 1.) Duh, anyone with a braincell should have known LSB was town. 2.) I thought of a *similar* plan, but I couldn't (still can't) think of a way to make use of it without having DTs claim. I am against ousting blue roles. 3.) Yes I am. I made my case why, and you should understand it. Vigis have a lurker only KP, they might as well use it, no? All lurkers are traitors, by definition. Ace said it best in my first game, I think, kill scum, and those who will not help you kill scum (not an exact quote, but I don't feel like looking it up) 4.) He admitted to fucking up with the medic thing, because he thought scum had 1 kp. If I think someone is scum I call them out on it. I just think YM is playing poorly, but not necessarily scummy. remember what we said about bad plans? Hell I missed that he made a posts about medics till you pointed it out and I had to go back and check. I don't see your case, but if you bring up any new points I will gladly answer them, so far it seems to me that you are dead set on me being mafia for some reason. I won't appeal to meta, but my alignment should be evident by now.
Me as a humble humble noob town see it as my only goal to kill scum,
So vigis PLEASE kill lurkers that smell like scum, but dont get to exited. Mafia is spamming the thread up right now, since mafia isnt stupid. They will make sure that every anti lurker action will work in their advantage. Vigis please be aware of this and dont use your power just because you can, and Definetly not because GM tells you to.
Also GM youre spamming the technical issues up like no tomorrow, also the lists. Why the lists GM?
Who wants to know the more experienced players i ask you? Town can judge for themself you know who could use a list of good players before they got the chance to voice their opinion?
scum
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hmm GMs last post is actually pretty good, however since your afraid of lylos let me paint one for you:
2 lurking townies 1 active townie 1 lurking maffia and 1 active .
sounds horrible right?
If all the lurkers were killed mafia had already won that situation, lurking is bad, scare people all you want, But keep in mind that every shot townie will hurt us a LOT. Thats why advocating careless shooting is anti town, now youre no noob and probably now this. Thats why i think you are scummy
Give it a good thought.
+ Show Spoiler +giving scary lylo situations isnt that usefull for the town either btw, just focus on lynching scum, since after all this theorycrafting, no blue would know where to shoot
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whoops second last post that is, also it was my thousand post show some respect plz Also this thread is hectic give me a second to vote.
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On June 28 2011 16:54 GMarshal wrote:Show nested quote +On June 28 2011 16:40 TheAwesomeAll wrote:No surprise, the thread is being spammed up with nothing but technical issues "lets create a pro town atmosphere" and references to old mafia games. Dont spent any more posts on the new interesting format!~ New formats in general favor scum because they are allowed to talk about technical issues the first day, town shoots some noob/lurker and everyone is happy. The lurker mechanism is just a call to spam, but GMarshal is really pushing it. Your clock is ticking, cute. This is the one of the few good posts made so far: On June 28 2011 14:44 sinani206 wrote:Pro-Town atmosphere would ideally be: - No taking lead.
Being a "leader" seems really scummy to me. I just have this innate bias that leaders are mafia, and even though there is quite a slim chance of them being scum, if they are, town has already lost.
- No spamming.
As has been mentioned before, all spamming does is derail town. It makes posts hard to find and confuses people so that scum are harder to analyse and pin for what they really are.
- Active scumhunting.
Scumhunting is obviously very pro-town. It gives the town a good discussion point and helps (obviously) find mafia. No reason not to do this.
- No lurking.
Lurking is confusing for all players who aren't lurking. It makes you hard to analyse. Obviously with all the anti-lurking abilities in this game, it isn't much of an issue, but keep this in mind.
That pretty much covers it. If anyone has any additions, feel free to share. Keep all of these points in mind when posting and analyzing. Off to play some SotIS and then go to sleep. Probably won't check the thread until morning. Good night folks! So instead of another technical issue or something im going to point the first FoS in the game. The most spammy player in the game: On June 28 2011 12:13 hiro protagonist wrote:
Sup town!
I am 100% behind Gmarshal about lurkers/trolls. that is all I have to say about that.
so everyone, lets get into it: towns lurker KP should be used once any lurker list is up. As such, I doubt very much that we will need to do a policy lynch on lurkers (which is something I almost always advocate).
Conversely: mafia, with the lurker mod on, will try and be spammy. Vigs, please,please,PLEASE, just shoot anyone that is cluttering up the thread with nonsense.
yeah... On June 28 2011 12:39 hiro protagonist wrote:On June 28 2011 12:24 Mr. Wiggles wrote:On June 28 2011 12:20 youngminii wrote:On June 28 2011 12:13 hiro protagonist wrote:
Sup town!
I am 100% behind Gmarshal about lurkers/trolls. that is all I have to say about that.
so everyone, lets get into it: towns lurker KP should be used once any lurker list is up. As such, I doubt very much that we will need to do a policy lynch on lurkers (which is something I almost always advocate).
Conversely: mafia, with the lurker mod on, will try and be spammy. Vigs, please,please,PLEASE, just shoot anyone that is cluttering up the thread with nonsense.
Do not do this, Vig you should be targeting who they feel is scum, not anyone that is spammy. First off, scum are not stupid, they won't be spamming up the thread for the sake of spamming the thread. Second, by saying "just shoot anyone that is cluttering up the thread with nonsense" in the thread will obviously signal scum to be very delicate and careful with their posting. FoS on you for this, it's a very flawed plan, everyone knows what a lurker is and what's not, if someone appears to be spammy and their playstyle lines up with scum then go ahead and shoot them but as soon as you start directing who the Vig should hit publically is when mafia get an advantage. Also, since lurking is defined by third party judgement, there's a chance that Spammers will also show up on the lurker list, due to quality of posts and actual word count. Shoot who you think is scummy, not who you think is worthless. -_- Your right, Vigs should hit those who are scummy. Those that are Spamming the thread are acting scummy. I didn't make a plan, I was giving out words of wisdom. Don't twist my words please. @Wiggles: you remember PTP right? I don't want that to happen with this thread... talking about lurkers like his live depends on it, i would love it if people stopped mentioning other games without explanation. On June 28 2011 13:06 hiro protagonist wrote:
@LSB: What do you have in mind? speaking for myself, I cant think of a way to abuse it because the list is chosen from a 3rd party... The lurker mechanism is soooooo interesting. And to top it all of, something that is so ridiculously safe to post On June 28 2011 13:34 hiro protagonist wrote:
Ok, chaos, he is a list:
GMarshal
youngminii
Jackal58
~OpZ~
Mr. Wiggles
Kenpachi
these are the most skilled/vets players in this game. Fun fact: GMarshal has never been lynched as town. Another fun fact: Mr. Wiggles has been mafia the last 2 games I played with him.
The following players I would describe as skilled, or at least very active when playing town:
DropBear
Cthsazsa
Mig
sandroba
VisceraEyes
Palmar
Varpulis
Everyone else I have no experience playing with. a list. A No Information List to be exact. You know the thing noob scum (like me in XL) post. Safe free town cred. please please please stop the spamThe other guy im keeping an eye on is GMarshal. /applause. You just shot down all town discussion and missed the major point of the lurker discussion, which is to force people to take stances. For example YM seems to be pretty much in agreement with me, while sand is in opposition, from sand's strong stance and willingness to fight for the spotlight its easy to see he dosn't care if people focus on him, a town trait. You miss this because you are too busy dismissing it as "spam". I agree that hiro has yet to post anything of substance, yet after bashing talking about a "pro-town atmosphere" you go on to quote a post about the pro-town atmosphere as being one of the best. I notice you don't actually accuse hiro of being scum though. Care to commit with your vote? Also the cynical tone is typical of mafia players. Its a distancing mechanism, since you feel isolated and threatened. Nice light FoS on me without substance too. I like how you manage to both belittle all discussion AND start smearing doubt around. This post alone *reeks* of being mafia. I'm not going to be wishywashy about it either. ##Vote: TheAwesomeAll Quick, expand your FoS on hiro into something larger, something NOT spammy Mr. "This town is all spam"
wow sorry GM did i step on some toes? Please expand more on that discussion, maybe i missed it, who are being accused, what valuable information did we gain? all i saw was spam spam spam, you know that town atmosphere of yours. Except talking about it, what did you do? did you give any points town should follow, did you create any discussion, did you *gasp* make an analysis?
I must have missed all of that, dont expect me to post again untill ive read EVERYTHING 3 times at least,
cya
Edit without edit: it might have been unfair to blame you for the list, it was chaos question. Chaos gave the oportunity for a perfect mafia blend in. Not accusing you just saying it was chaosses fault, since it was an opportunity to post without information, to dissapear from any nasty lurker lists, to seem helpfull without doing anything really.
And yes, why did you vote for me? didnt like the pressure?
A good tactice to discourage anything is to punish the first guy who does it, since no second will come without a first right? Well the first guy to stick his neck out got a vote and the careless fos of the allmighty town leader. Sure as hell makes your case worse
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On June 28 2011 22:39 Jackal58 wrote:
Hey I have an idea. Let's drop the lurker discussion. RoL in his divine infinite wisdom put mechanics into the game that allow blues to specifically deal with the issue. It would seem to me any further discussion of the issue is an attempt by scum to lure out our dt's and vigis. It serves no other purpose at this point. Would seem to me that's what got LSB shot. Scum took a chance on him being a DT.
Sinani206- Wtf dude? Leaders are scum? You prefer town to be all about flailing arms and pissing contests? Aimless drifting and lynch votes easily influenced by your scumbuddies? Seriously man that's the scummiest assertion so far in this game.
##Vote:Sinani206
leaders dont count, arguements and analysis do. I agree the sinani's should be kept an eye on but this case is so ridiculously weak...
And yes lets drop the lurker discussion
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ebwop, what is the chance they are both scum, and they are keeping each other of the list? Its really anti-town but i dont think they are scum. Im not gonna throw my vote at them since i can see how playing with a rl friend can be distracting.
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On June 28 2011 16:54 GMarshal wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On June 28 2011 16:40 TheAwesomeAll wrote:No surprise, the thread is being spammed up with nothing but technical issues "lets create a pro town atmosphere" and references to old mafia games. Dont spent any more posts on the new interesting format!~ New formats in general favor scum because they are allowed to talk about technical issues the first day, town shoots some noob/lurker and everyone is happy. The lurker mechanism is just a call to spam, but GMarshal is really pushing it. Your clock is ticking, cute. This is the one of the few good posts made so far: Show nested quote +On June 28 2011 14:44 sinani206 wrote:Pro-Town atmosphere would ideally be: - No taking lead.
Being a "leader" seems really scummy to me. I just have this innate bias that leaders are mafia, and even though there is quite a slim chance of them being scum, if they are, town has already lost.
- No spamming.
As has been mentioned before, all spamming does is derail town. It makes posts hard to find and confuses people so that scum are harder to analyse and pin for what they really are.
- Active scumhunting.
Scumhunting is obviously very pro-town. It gives the town a good discussion point and helps (obviously) find mafia. No reason not to do this.
- No lurking.
Lurking is confusing for all players who aren't lurking. It makes you hard to analyse. Obviously with all the anti-lurking abilities in this game, it isn't much of an issue, but keep this in mind.
That pretty much covers it. If anyone has any additions, feel free to share. Keep all of these points in mind when posting and analyzing. Off to play some SotIS and then go to sleep. Probably won't check the thread until morning. Good night folks! So instead of another technical issue or something im going to point the first FoS in the game. The most spammy player in the game: Show nested quote +On June 28 2011 12:13 hiro protagonist wrote:
Sup town!
I am 100% behind Gmarshal about lurkers/trolls. that is all I have to say about that.
so everyone, lets get into it: towns lurker KP should be used once any lurker list is up. As such, I doubt very much that we will need to do a policy lynch on lurkers (which is something I almost always advocate).
Conversely: mafia, with the lurker mod on, will try and be spammy. Vigs, please,please,PLEASE, just shoot anyone that is cluttering up the thread with nonsense.
yeah... Show nested quote +On June 28 2011 12:39 hiro protagonist wrote:On June 28 2011 12:24 Mr. Wiggles wrote:On June 28 2011 12:20 youngminii wrote:On June 28 2011 12:13 hiro protagonist wrote:
Sup town!
I am 100% behind Gmarshal about lurkers/trolls. that is all I have to say about that.
so everyone, lets get into it: towns lurker KP should be used once any lurker list is up. As such, I doubt very much that we will need to do a policy lynch on lurkers (which is something I almost always advocate).
Conversely: mafia, with the lurker mod on, will try and be spammy. Vigs, please,please,PLEASE, just shoot anyone that is cluttering up the thread with nonsense.
Do not do this, Vig you should be targeting who they feel is scum, not anyone that is spammy. First off, scum are not stupid, they won't be spamming up the thread for the sake of spamming the thread. Second, by saying "just shoot anyone that is cluttering up the thread with nonsense" in the thread will obviously signal scum to be very delicate and careful with their posting. FoS on you for this, it's a very flawed plan, everyone knows what a lurker is and what's not, if someone appears to be spammy and their playstyle lines up with scum then go ahead and shoot them but as soon as you start directing who the Vig should hit publically is when mafia get an advantage. Also, since lurking is defined by third party judgement, there's a chance that Spammers will also show up on the lurker list, due to quality of posts and actual word count. Shoot who you think is scummy, not who you think is worthless. -_- Your right, Vigs should hit those who are scummy. Those that are Spamming the thread are acting scummy. I didn't make a plan, I was giving out words of wisdom. Don't twist my words please. @Wiggles: you remember PTP right? I don't want that to happen with this thread... talking about lurkers like his live depends on it, i would love it if people stopped mentioning other games without explanation. Show nested quote +On June 28 2011 13:06 hiro protagonist wrote:
@LSB: What do you have in mind? speaking for myself, I cant think of a way to abuse it because the list is chosen from a 3rd party... The lurker mechanism is soooooo interesting. And to top it all of, something that is so ridiculously safe to post Show nested quote +On June 28 2011 13:34 hiro protagonist wrote:
Ok, chaos, he is a list:
GMarshal
youngminii
Jackal58
~OpZ~
Mr. Wiggles
Kenpachi
these are the most skilled/vets players in this game. Fun fact: GMarshal has never been lynched as town. Another fun fact: Mr. Wiggles has been mafia the last 2 games I played with him.
The following players I would describe as skilled, or at least very active when playing town:
DropBear
Cthsazsa
Mig
sandroba
VisceraEyes
Palmar
Varpulis
Everyone else I have no experience playing with. a list. A No Information List to be exact. You know the thing noob scum (like me in XL) post. Safe free town cred. please please please stop the spamThe other guy im keeping an eye on is GMarshal. /applause. You just shot down all town discussion and missed the major point of the lurker discussion, which is to force people to take stances. For example YM seems to be pretty much in agreement with me, while sand is in opposition, from sand's strong stance and willingness to fight for the spotlight its easy to see he dosn't care if people focus on him, a town trait. You miss this because you are too busy dismissing it as "spam". I agree that hiro has yet to post anything of substance, yet after bashing talking about a "pro-town atmosphere" you go on to quote a post about the pro-town atmosphere as being one of the best. I notice you don't actually accuse hiro of being scum though. Care to commit with your vote? Also the cynical tone is typical of mafia players. Its a distancing mechanism, since you feel isolated and threatened. Nice light FoS on me without substance too. I like how you manage to both belittle all discussion AND start smearing doubt around. This post alone *reeks* of being mafia. I'm not going to be wishywashy about it either. ##Vote: TheAwesomeAll Quick, expand your FoS on hiro into something larger, something NOT spammy Mr. "This town is all spam"
shit just got real
/applause. You just shot down all town discussion and missed the major point of the lurker discussion, which is to force people to take stances. For example YM seems to be pretty much in agreement with me, while sand is in opposition, from sand's strong stance and willingness to fight for the spotlight its easy to see he dosn't care if people focus on him, a town trait.
I must make it clear one more time im afraid
I dont care about lurkers, continuing this pointless discussion is anti town, lycnh/shoot/check who you think is scum
There was no town discussion only a very good opportunity for mafia to blend in. A opportunity you among others seemed to enjoy. You are not a noob man, you know this.
You miss this because you are too busy dismissing it as "spam". I agree that hiro has yet to post anything of substance, yet after bashing talking about a "pro-town atmosphere" you go on to quote a post about the pro-town atmosphere as being one of the best.
I would have LOVED to pick a better quote, believe me, yet there was none. Also there was no real discussion about pre town atmospheres just people ignoring everything that has been said and going for their trademark opening post.
Good you agree with me, what has the second part of that sentence to do with the first part? little bit of panic going on?
I notice you don't actually accuse hiro of being scum though. Care to commit with your vote? Also the cynical tone is typical of mafia players. Its a distancing mechanism, since you feel isolated and threatened. Nice light FoS on me without substance too.
know were getting to the real deal, you didnt care about Hiro didnt you? hes just a goon, you can miss him, i accused YOU. So funny how much
The other guy im keeping an eye on is GMarshal.
can chance everything. Yes it has no substance. Why be afraid? i just wanted everyone to know what i was thinking in case i died of a sudden heart attack.
I like how you manage to both belittle all discussion AND start smearing doubt around. This post alone *reeks* of being mafia. I'm not going to be wishywashy about it either.
announcing your not wishy washyness, wow you MUST be town. Notice how wishy washy he gets in a second.
Oh and he calls my post spam, whatever.
On June 28 2011 17:15 GMarshal wrote:Show nested quote +On June 28 2011 17:08 TheAwesomeAll wrote:On June 28 2011 16:54 GMarshal wrote:On June 28 2011 16:40 TheAwesomeAll wrote:No surprise, the thread is being spammed up with nothing but technical issues "lets create a pro town atmosphere" and references to old mafia games. Dont spent any more posts on the new interesting format!~ New formats in general favor scum because they are allowed to talk about technical issues the first day, town shoots some noob/lurker and everyone is happy. The lurker mechanism is just a call to spam, but GMarshal is really pushing it. Your clock is ticking, cute. This is the one of the few good posts made so far: On June 28 2011 14:44 sinani206 wrote:Pro-Town atmosphere would ideally be: - No taking lead.
Being a "leader" seems really scummy to me. I just have this innate bias that leaders are mafia, and even though there is quite a slim chance of them being scum, if they are, town has already lost.
- No spamming.
As has been mentioned before, all spamming does is derail town. It makes posts hard to find and confuses people so that scum are harder to analyse and pin for what they really are.
- Active scumhunting.
Scumhunting is obviously very pro-town. It gives the town a good discussion point and helps (obviously) find mafia. No reason not to do this.
- No lurking.
Lurking is confusing for all players who aren't lurking. It makes you hard to analyse. Obviously with all the anti-lurking abilities in this game, it isn't much of an issue, but keep this in mind.
That pretty much covers it. If anyone has any additions, feel free to share. Keep all of these points in mind when posting and analyzing. Off to play some SotIS and then go to sleep. Probably won't check the thread until morning. Good night folks! So instead of another technical issue or something im going to point the first FoS in the game. The most spammy player in the game: On June 28 2011 12:13 hiro protagonist wrote:
Sup town!
I am 100% behind Gmarshal about lurkers/trolls. that is all I have to say about that.
so everyone, lets get into it: towns lurker KP should be used once any lurker list is up. As such, I doubt very much that we will need to do a policy lynch on lurkers (which is something I almost always advocate).
Conversely: mafia, with the lurker mod on, will try and be spammy. Vigs, please,please,PLEASE, just shoot anyone that is cluttering up the thread with nonsense.
yeah... On June 28 2011 12:39 hiro protagonist wrote:On June 28 2011 12:24 Mr. Wiggles wrote:On June 28 2011 12:20 youngminii wrote:On June 28 2011 12:13 hiro protagonist wrote:
Sup town!
I am 100% behind Gmarshal about lurkers/trolls. that is all I have to say about that.
so everyone, lets get into it: towns lurker KP should be used once any lurker list is up. As such, I doubt very much that we will need to do a policy lynch on lurkers (which is something I almost always advocate).
Conversely: mafia, with the lurker mod on, will try and be spammy. Vigs, please,please,PLEASE, just shoot anyone that is cluttering up the thread with nonsense.
Do not do this, Vig you should be targeting who they feel is scum, not anyone that is spammy. First off, scum are not stupid, they won't be spamming up the thread for the sake of spamming the thread. Second, by saying "just shoot anyone that is cluttering up the thread with nonsense" in the thread will obviously signal scum to be very delicate and careful with their posting. FoS on you for this, it's a very flawed plan, everyone knows what a lurker is and what's not, if someone appears to be spammy and their playstyle lines up with scum then go ahead and shoot them but as soon as you start directing who the Vig should hit publically is when mafia get an advantage. Also, since lurking is defined by third party judgement, there's a chance that Spammers will also show up on the lurker list, due to quality of posts and actual word count. Shoot who you think is scummy, not who you think is worthless. -_- Your right, Vigs should hit those who are scummy. Those that are Spamming the thread are acting scummy. I didn't make a plan, I was giving out words of wisdom. Don't twist my words please. @Wiggles: you remember PTP right? I don't want that to happen with this thread... talking about lurkers like his live depends on it, i would love it if people stopped mentioning other games without explanation. On June 28 2011 13:06 hiro protagonist wrote:
@LSB: What do you have in mind? speaking for myself, I cant think of a way to abuse it because the list is chosen from a 3rd party... The lurker mechanism is soooooo interesting. And to top it all of, something that is so ridiculously safe to post On June 28 2011 13:34 hiro protagonist wrote:
Ok, chaos, he is a list:
GMarshal
youngminii
Jackal58
~OpZ~
Mr. Wiggles
Kenpachi
these are the most skilled/vets players in this game. Fun fact: GMarshal has never been lynched as town. Another fun fact: Mr. Wiggles has been mafia the last 2 games I played with him.
The following players I would describe as skilled, or at least very active when playing town:
DropBear
Cthsazsa
Mig
sandroba
VisceraEyes
Palmar
Varpulis
Everyone else I have no experience playing with. a list. A No Information List to be exact. You know the thing noob scum (like me in XL) post. Safe free town cred. please please please stop the spamThe other guy im keeping an eye on is GMarshal. /applause. You just shot down all town discussion and missed the major point of the lurker discussion, which is to force people to take stances. For example YM seems to be pretty much in agreement with me, while sand is in opposition, from sand's strong stance and willingness to fight for the spotlight its easy to see he dosn't care if people focus on him, a town trait. You miss this because you are too busy dismissing it as "spam". I agree that hiro has yet to post anything of substance, yet after bashing talking about a "pro-town atmosphere" you go on to quote a post about the pro-town atmosphere as being one of the best. I notice you don't actually accuse hiro of being scum though. Care to commit with your vote? Also the cynical tone is typical of mafia players. Its a distancing mechanism, since you feel isolated and threatened. Nice light FoS on me without substance too. I like how you manage to both belittle all discussion AND start smearing doubt around. This post alone *reeks* of being mafia. I'm not going to be wishywashy about it either. ##Vote: TheAwesomeAll Quick, expand your FoS on hiro into something larger, something NOT spammy Mr. "This town is all spam" wow sorry GM did i step on some toes? Please expand more on that discussion, maybe i missed it, who are being accused, what valuable information did we gain? all i saw was spam spam spam, you know that town atmosphere of yours. Except talking about it, what did you do? did you give any points town should follow, did you create any discussion, did you *gasp* make an analysis? I must have missed all of that, dont expect me to post again untill ive read EVERYTHING 3 times at least, cya Edit without edit: it might have been unfair to blame you for the list, it was chaos question. Chaos gave the oportunity for a perfect mafia blend in. Not accusing you just saying it was chaosses fault, since it was an opportunity to post without information, to dissapear from any nasty lurker lists, to seem helpfull without doing anything really. And yes, why did you vote for me? didnt like the pressure? A good tactice to discourage anything is to punish the first guy who does it, since no second will come without a first right? Well the first guy to stick his neck out got a vote and the careless fos of the allmighty town leader. Sure as hell makes your case worse I voted for you because your post was scummy in my eyes. It still is. Sand voted for me like 3 hours ago, but the way he went about accusing me was pretty townie, so I don't suspect him for it. We are 7 hours in, no I have no analysis. My first 30 or so hours will be spent generating discussion and figuring out who I think is green from their posting. I'll also be figuring out who is mafia or pushing mafia objectives. Finally the atmosphere seems good to me, no flaming, discussion is proceeding, people are being gentlemanly, right now its good that people are talking. I'm not going to post who I have concluded is town, because I have no interest in painting targets on their back, thank you very much. So far my scum reads are pretty soft, but as more people post I should be able to figure out a nice day 1 candidate. Read, carefully, the thread, a lot of valuable information has been revealed. For now my vote is staying on you, since I want to see you tick ^_^Also it is now 4:15 am in my local area so I'm off to sleep. See you all in the morning!
sup bro?
I notice you don't actually accuse hiro of being scum though. Care to commit with your vote? Also the cynical tone is typical of mafia players. Its a distancing mechanism, since you feel isolated and threatened.
I like how you manage to both belittle all discussion AND start smearing doubt around. This post alone *reeks* of being mafia. I'm not going to be wishywashy about it either.
For now my vote is staying on you, since I want to see you tick ^_^
I know yours, mood swings.
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ebwop he essentially made his vote completely worthless, he wants to know my 'tick'. He essentially no one to note him. this, and the chainsaw defense is VERY scummy. He backs of as soon as the discussion gains some heat.
Also to the people hopping on the Sinani bandwagon, why? Really only because he said we should listen to individuals but to reason?? Plz get some dt checks on those people. Especially
On June 28 2011 22:10 Palmar wrote:
only problem with lynching sinani206 is that the last game I played with him his combo was:
a) post fluff, lists and useless shit
b) claim veteran
c) get lynched.
It's hard to analyse people who we know act super scummy as town anyway.
But sure, he's the best idea so far, let's bandwagon this thing.
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On June 29 2011 00:09 youngminii wrote:
i like the way you think theawesomeall
don't worry about palmar though, he's always like this
i can only think of gmarshal as the best dt candidate for now
okay i'm gonna head off now i'll be back when i wake up
if GM is scum, he is GF. Please dont check him.
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for the vigis, i dont mind Hiro getting shot, He will probably get on the lurker list tomorrow so if you find someone else more worthy of your shot shoot him first.
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YM and Syllo stop arguing with each other, you arent producing anything.
On June 29 2011 00:38 syllogism wrote:
I checked his post history earlier. He has generated a lot of discussion which is goodt and is obviously attempting to establish himself as a town leader. Some of his posts have a bit weak logic, but I didn't notice anything particularly anti-town. I'm leaning town as if he were scum, he would pretty much have to be GF. Stating he isn't wishywashy about his vote is a bit odd though.
Who are you talking about? What do you think? cast your vote?
You are soft defending him, like really really soft. Almost as if you dont want to be associated with him if he were to turn red. Dont do that .
Also you are playing so defensive
On June 29 2011 00:12 syllogism wrote:
Oh okay so the one who has actually posted something of substance is the suspicious one. The one who has given the new and different format some thought rather than post worthless lists and copy pasted "how town should play" guides. Perfect.
My plan for lynch was going to be lynching someone who has posted a lot to avoid being on the lurker list without contributing anything, but unfortunately some players feel the need to post their every single thought, including the fact this is a decent idea if there are no better alternatives present. I even hinted that Dropbear should stop alluding to this plan as it relies on players not actually being aware of it, but he still made another reference.
what was that post about, who is accusing you?
FoS list
hiro
GM
syllogism
Drazerk
YM stop spamming, you are not doing the town any favors. Also arguing with Syllo will only does him favors if he is scum. In general these stupid 'fights' are really anti town since mafia can blend in, participate, post, with 0% slip chance.
Why is everyone ignoring GM?? I posted a LOT on him and no one is responding? Dropbear posted 2 posts 1 accusing GM 1 accusing *Henry* Drazerk comes in and Asking if anyone else felt like he did after that post of Dropbear. Removing all his responsability, then he waits for Palmar to vote before he votes.
Discussion derailed.
As pointed out above drazerk is obvious mafia,
But he isnt sitting back, hes actively derailing the thread so GMarshal doesnt get lynched
Drazerk do you think GM is mafia? Can you defend yourself? Do you think Hiro is mafia?
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On June 28 2011 22:24 Drazerk wrote:Show nested quote +On June 28 2011 22:10 Palmar wrote:
only problem with lynching sinani206 is that the last game I played with him his combo was:
a) post fluff, lists and useless shit
b) claim veteran
c) get lynched.
It's hard to analyse people who we know act super scummy as town anyway.
But sure, he's the best idea so far, let's bandwagon this thing. Hmm As im already FoSing these two guys I still think 201 may be a more of a pressing target as he has acted most like scum, although I believe both of them are possible scum and if 206 comes up red we will Probably have another shot to take Tommorow. ( See that small pointless engagement at the start of the game )
Do you really think they are both scum? seems a bit unlikely doesnt it?
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im posting like a schizophrenic, please ignore im jumping from topic to topic, its very warm here.
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On June 29 2011 01:41 Navillus wrote:
Hi people, soooo the voting on sinani seems really silly, first off it was declared "let's bandwagon this" which as I understand it is not the town's goal, also this whole thing was started with the apparently 'scummy' opinion that strong leaders are bad, which I totally agree with. If one leader gets too much power/influence and they're either scum or just wrong one too many times then the entire town is screwed by it, town should work as smaller groups and not let 1 person direct the entire agenda. Frankly the attacks on sinani are pretty scummy they put words into his mouth talking about how he wanted to kill leaders and lurkers which 1. they say is contradictory though it isn't (we want people to be between those two, extremes are bad) and 2. He never says that he wants to kill leaders or even that everyone should watch them just that he has personal suspicions of them.
who do you think is scum?
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On June 29 2011 01:57 Palmar wrote:
TheAwesomeAll, stop posting multiple targets.
Find a target, and just kill him.
Hey, also, why don't we just hang GM like a proper newbie town?
im youre first post (except for your /ins) that doesnt mention the word 'lurker' 
But your right if i want something to be accomplished i might have to stop messing around, dont get me wrong
Hiro
Drazerk
Palmar
GM
Syllo (least sure about this one)
are all mafia imo.
GM however is their most skilled player, and most likely their GF
EVERYONE please read my posts on him, and let me know if you agree/disagree
+ Show Spoiler +On June 28 2011 23:46 TheAwesomeAll wrote:Show nested quote +On June 28 2011 16:54 GMarshal wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On June 28 2011 16:40 TheAwesomeAll wrote:No surprise, the thread is being spammed up with nothing but technical issues "lets create a pro town atmosphere" and references to old mafia games. Dont spent any more posts on the new interesting format!~ New formats in general favor scum because they are allowed to talk about technical issues the first day, town shoots some noob/lurker and everyone is happy. The lurker mechanism is just a call to spam, but GMarshal is really pushing it. Your clock is ticking, cute. This is the one of the few good posts made so far: Show nested quote +On June 28 2011 14:44 sinani206 wrote:Pro-Town atmosphere would ideally be: - No taking lead.
Being a "leader" seems really scummy to me. I just have this innate bias that leaders are mafia, and even though there is quite a slim chance of them being scum, if they are, town has already lost.
- No spamming.
As has been mentioned before, all spamming does is derail town. It makes posts hard to find and confuses people so that scum are harder to analyse and pin for what they really are.
- Active scumhunting.
Scumhunting is obviously very pro-town. It gives the town a good discussion point and helps (obviously) find mafia. No reason not to do this.
- No lurking.
Lurking is confusing for all players who aren't lurking. It makes you hard to analyse. Obviously with all the anti-lurking abilities in this game, it isn't much of an issue, but keep this in mind.
That pretty much covers it. If anyone has any additions, feel free to share. Keep all of these points in mind when posting and analyzing. Off to play some SotIS and then go to sleep. Probably won't check the thread until morning. Good night folks! So instead of another technical issue or something im going to point the first FoS in the game. The most spammy player in the game: Show nested quote +On June 28 2011 12:13 hiro protagonist wrote:
Sup town!
I am 100% behind Gmarshal about lurkers/trolls. that is all I have to say about that.
so everyone, lets get into it: towns lurker KP should be used once any lurker list is up. As such, I doubt very much that we will need to do a policy lynch on lurkers (which is something I almost always advocate).
Conversely: mafia, with the lurker mod on, will try and be spammy. Vigs, please,please,PLEASE, just shoot anyone that is cluttering up the thread with nonsense.
yeah... Show nested quote +On June 28 2011 12:39 hiro protagonist wrote:On June 28 2011 12:24 Mr. Wiggles wrote:On June 28 2011 12:20 youngminii wrote:On June 28 2011 12:13 hiro protagonist wrote:
Sup town!
I am 100% behind Gmarshal about lurkers/trolls. that is all I have to say about that.
so everyone, lets get into it: towns lurker KP should be used once any lurker list is up. As such, I doubt very much that we will need to do a policy lynch on lurkers (which is something I almost always advocate).
Conversely: mafia, with the lurker mod on, will try and be spammy. Vigs, please,please,PLEASE, just shoot anyone that is cluttering up the thread with nonsense.
Do not do this, Vig you should be targeting who they feel is scum, not anyone that is spammy. First off, scum are not stupid, they won't be spamming up the thread for the sake of spamming the thread. Second, by saying "just shoot anyone that is cluttering up the thread with nonsense" in the thread will obviously signal scum to be very delicate and careful with their posting. FoS on you for this, it's a very flawed plan, everyone knows what a lurker is and what's not, if someone appears to be spammy and their playstyle lines up with scum then go ahead and shoot them but as soon as you start directing who the Vig should hit publically is when mafia get an advantage. Also, since lurking is defined by third party judgement, there's a chance that Spammers will also show up on the lurker list, due to quality of posts and actual word count. Shoot who you think is scummy, not who you think is worthless. -_- Your right, Vigs should hit those who are scummy. Those that are Spamming the thread are acting scummy. I didn't make a plan, I was giving out words of wisdom. Don't twist my words please. @Wiggles: you remember PTP right? I don't want that to happen with this thread... talking about lurkers like his live depends on it, i would love it if people stopped mentioning other games without explanation. Show nested quote +On June 28 2011 13:06 hiro protagonist wrote:
@LSB: What do you have in mind? speaking for myself, I cant think of a way to abuse it because the list is chosen from a 3rd party... The lurker mechanism is soooooo interesting. And to top it all of, something that is so ridiculously safe to post Show nested quote +On June 28 2011 13:34 hiro protagonist wrote:
Ok, chaos, he is a list:
GMarshal
youngminii
Jackal58
~OpZ~
Mr. Wiggles
Kenpachi
these are the most skilled/vets players in this game. Fun fact: GMarshal has never been lynched as town. Another fun fact: Mr. Wiggles has been mafia the last 2 games I played with him.
The following players I would describe as skilled, or at least very active when playing town:
DropBear
Cthsazsa
Mig
sandroba
VisceraEyes
Palmar
Varpulis
Everyone else I have no experience playing with. a list. A No Information List to be exact. You know the thing noob scum (like me in XL) post. Safe free town cred. please please please stop the spamThe other guy im keeping an eye on is GMarshal. /applause. You just shot down all town discussion and missed the major point of the lurker discussion, which is to force people to take stances. For example YM seems to be pretty much in agreement with me, while sand is in opposition, from sand's strong stance and willingness to fight for the spotlight its easy to see he dosn't care if people focus on him, a town trait. You miss this because you are too busy dismissing it as "spam". I agree that hiro has yet to post anything of substance, yet after bashing talking about a "pro-town atmosphere" you go on to quote a post about the pro-town atmosphere as being one of the best. I notice you don't actually accuse hiro of being scum though. Care to commit with your vote? Also the cynical tone is typical of mafia players. Its a distancing mechanism, since you feel isolated and threatened. Nice light FoS on me without substance too. I like how you manage to both belittle all discussion AND start smearing doubt around. This post alone *reeks* of being mafia. I'm not going to be wishywashy about it either. ##Vote: TheAwesomeAll Quick, expand your FoS on hiro into something larger, something NOT spammy Mr. "This town is all spam" shit just got real Show nested quote +/applause. You just shot down all town discussion and missed the major point of the lurker discussion, which is to force people to take stances. For example YM seems to be pretty much in agreement with me, while sand is in opposition, from sand's strong stance and willingness to fight for the spotlight its easy to see he dosn't care if people focus on him, a town trait. I must make it clear one more time im afraid I dont care about lurkers, continuing this pointless discussion is anti town, lycnh/shoot/check who you think is scum There was no town discussion only a very good opportunity for mafia to blend in. A opportunity you among others seemed to enjoy. You are not a noob man, you know this. Show nested quote +You miss this because you are too busy dismissing it as "spam". I agree that hiro has yet to post anything of substance, yet after bashing talking about a "pro-town atmosphere" you go on to quote a post about the pro-town atmosphere as being one of the best.
I would have LOVED to pick a better quote, believe me, yet there was none. Also there was no real discussion about pre town atmospheres just people ignoring everything that has been said and going for their trademark opening post. Good you agree with me, what has the second part of that sentence to do with the first part? little bit of panic going on? Show nested quote +I notice you don't actually accuse hiro of being scum though. Care to commit with your vote? Also the cynical tone is typical of mafia players. Its a distancing mechanism, since you feel isolated and threatened. Nice light FoS on me without substance too.
know were getting to the real deal, you didnt care about Hiro didnt you? hes just a goon, you can miss him, i accused YOU. So funny how much can chance everything. Yes it has no substance. Why be afraid? i just wanted everyone to know what i was thinking in case i died of a sudden heart attack. Show nested quote +I like how you manage to both belittle all discussion AND start smearing doubt around. This post alone *reeks* of being mafia. I'm not going to be wishywashy about it either.
announcing your not wishy washyness, wow you MUST be town. Notice how wishy washy he gets in a second. Oh and he calls my post spam, whatever. Show nested quote +On June 28 2011 17:15 GMarshal wrote:On June 28 2011 17:08 TheAwesomeAll wrote:On June 28 2011 16:54 GMarshal wrote:On June 28 2011 16:40 TheAwesomeAll wrote:No surprise, the thread is being spammed up with nothing but technical issues "lets create a pro town atmosphere" and references to old mafia games. Dont spent any more posts on the new interesting format!~ New formats in general favor scum because they are allowed to talk about technical issues the first day, town shoots some noob/lurker and everyone is happy. The lurker mechanism is just a call to spam, but GMarshal is really pushing it. Your clock is ticking, cute. This is the one of the few good posts made so far: On June 28 2011 14:44 sinani206 wrote:Pro-Town atmosphere would ideally be: - No taking lead.
Being a "leader" seems really scummy to me. I just have this innate bias that leaders are mafia, and even though there is quite a slim chance of them being scum, if they are, town has already lost.
- No spamming.
As has been mentioned before, all spamming does is derail town. It makes posts hard to find and confuses people so that scum are harder to analyse and pin for what they really are.
- Active scumhunting.
Scumhunting is obviously very pro-town. It gives the town a good discussion point and helps (obviously) find mafia. No reason not to do this.
- No lurking.
Lurking is confusing for all players who aren't lurking. It makes you hard to analyse. Obviously with all the anti-lurking abilities in this game, it isn't much of an issue, but keep this in mind.
That pretty much covers it. If anyone has any additions, feel free to share. Keep all of these points in mind when posting and analyzing. Off to play some SotIS and then go to sleep. Probably won't check the thread until morning. Good night folks! So instead of another technical issue or something im going to point the first FoS in the game. The most spammy player in the game: On June 28 2011 12:13 hiro protagonist wrote:
Sup town!
I am 100% behind Gmarshal about lurkers/trolls. that is all I have to say about that.
so everyone, lets get into it: towns lurker KP should be used once any lurker list is up. As such, I doubt very much that we will need to do a policy lynch on lurkers (which is something I almost always advocate).
Conversely: mafia, with the lurker mod on, will try and be spammy. Vigs, please,please,PLEASE, just shoot anyone that is cluttering up the thread with nonsense.
yeah... On June 28 2011 12:39 hiro protagonist wrote:On June 28 2011 12:24 Mr. Wiggles wrote:On June 28 2011 12:20 youngminii wrote:On June 28 2011 12:13 hiro protagonist wrote:
Sup town!
I am 100% behind Gmarshal about lurkers/trolls. that is all I have to say about that.
so everyone, lets get into it: towns lurker KP should be used once any lurker list is up. As such, I doubt very much that we will need to do a policy lynch on lurkers (which is something I almost always advocate).
Conversely: mafia, with the lurker mod on, will try and be spammy. Vigs, please,please,PLEASE, just shoot anyone that is cluttering up the thread with nonsense.
Do not do this, Vig you should be targeting who they feel is scum, not anyone that is spammy. First off, scum are not stupid, they won't be spamming up the thread for the sake of spamming the thread. Second, by saying "just shoot anyone that is cluttering up the thread with nonsense" in the thread will obviously signal scum to be very delicate and careful with their posting. FoS on you for this, it's a very flawed plan, everyone knows what a lurker is and what's not, if someone appears to be spammy and their playstyle lines up with scum then go ahead and shoot them but as soon as you start directing who the Vig should hit publically is when mafia get an advantage. Also, since lurking is defined by third party judgement, there's a chance that Spammers will also show up on the lurker list, due to quality of posts and actual word count. Shoot who you think is scummy, not who you think is worthless. -_- Your right, Vigs should hit those who are scummy. Those that are Spamming the thread are acting scummy. I didn't make a plan, I was giving out words of wisdom. Don't twist my words please. @Wiggles: you remember PTP right? I don't want that to happen with this thread... talking about lurkers like his live depends on it, i would love it if people stopped mentioning other games without explanation. On June 28 2011 13:06 hiro protagonist wrote:
@LSB: What do you have in mind? speaking for myself, I cant think of a way to abuse it because the list is chosen from a 3rd party... The lurker mechanism is soooooo interesting. And to top it all of, something that is so ridiculously safe to post On June 28 2011 13:34 hiro protagonist wrote:
Ok, chaos, he is a list:
GMarshal
youngminii
Jackal58
~OpZ~
Mr. Wiggles
Kenpachi
these are the most skilled/vets players in this game. Fun fact: GMarshal has never been lynched as town. Another fun fact: Mr. Wiggles has been mafia the last 2 games I played with him.
The following players I would describe as skilled, or at least very active when playing town:
DropBear
Cthsazsa
Mig
sandroba
VisceraEyes
Palmar
Varpulis
Everyone else I have no experience playing with. a list. A No Information List to be exact. You know the thing noob scum (like me in XL) post. Safe free town cred. please please please stop the spamThe other guy im keeping an eye on is GMarshal. /applause. You just shot down all town discussion and missed the major point of the lurker discussion, which is to force people to take stances. For example YM seems to be pretty much in agreement with me, while sand is in opposition, from sand's strong stance and willingness to fight for the spotlight its easy to see he dosn't care if people focus on him, a town trait. You miss this because you are too busy dismissing it as "spam". I agree that hiro has yet to post anything of substance, yet after bashing talking about a "pro-town atmosphere" you go on to quote a post about the pro-town atmosphere as being one of the best. I notice you don't actually accuse hiro of being scum though. Care to commit with your vote? Also the cynical tone is typical of mafia players. Its a distancing mechanism, since you feel isolated and threatened. Nice light FoS on me without substance too. I like how you manage to both belittle all discussion AND start smearing doubt around. This post alone *reeks* of being mafia. I'm not going to be wishywashy about it either. ##Vote: TheAwesomeAll Quick, expand your FoS on hiro into something larger, something NOT spammy Mr. "This town is all spam" wow sorry GM did i step on some toes? Please expand more on that discussion, maybe i missed it, who are being accused, what valuable information did we gain? all i saw was spam spam spam, you know that town atmosphere of yours. Except talking about it, what did you do? did you give any points town should follow, did you create any discussion, did you *gasp* make an analysis? I must have missed all of that, dont expect me to post again untill ive read EVERYTHING 3 times at least, cya Edit without edit: it might have been unfair to blame you for the list, it was chaos question. Chaos gave the oportunity for a perfect mafia blend in. Not accusing you just saying it was chaosses fault, since it was an opportunity to post without information, to dissapear from any nasty lurker lists, to seem helpfull without doing anything really. And yes, why did you vote for me? didnt like the pressure? A good tactice to discourage anything is to punish the first guy who does it, since no second will come without a first right? Well the first guy to stick his neck out got a vote and the careless fos of the allmighty town leader. Sure as hell makes your case worse I voted for you because your post was scummy in my eyes. It still is. Sand voted for me like 3 hours ago, but the way he went about accusing me was pretty townie, so I don't suspect him for it. We are 7 hours in, no I have no analysis. My first 30 or so hours will be spent generating discussion and figuring out who I think is green from their posting. I'll also be figuring out who is mafia or pushing mafia objectives. Finally the atmosphere seems good to me, no flaming, discussion is proceeding, people are being gentlemanly, right now its good that people are talking. I'm not going to post who I have concluded is town, because I have no interest in painting targets on their back, thank you very much. So far my scum reads are pretty soft, but as more people post I should be able to figure out a nice day 1 candidate. Read, carefully, the thread, a lot of valuable information has been revealed. For now my vote is staying on you, since I want to see you tick ^_^Also it is now 4:15 am in my local area so I'm off to sleep. See you all in the morning! sup bro? Show nested quote +I notice you don't actually accuse hiro of being scum though. Care to commit with your vote? Also the cynical tone is typical of mafia players. Its a distancing mechanism, since you feel isolated and threatened. Show nested quote +I like how you manage to both belittle all discussion AND start smearing doubt around. This post alone *reeks* of being mafia. I'm not going to be wishywashy about it either.
I know yours, mood swings.
it shows his contradictions, how he defends Hiro and quickly backs up, everything why i
##vote:GMarshal
basicly
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+ Show Spoiler +ebwop he essentially made his vote completely worthless, he wants to know my 'tick'. He essentially no one to note him. this, and the chainsaw defense is VERY scummy. He backs of as soon as the discussion gains some heat.
this one summarizes is pretty good as well. (with backing up i mean he takes distance, says his vote doesnt mean anything etc, cute smiley faces etc)
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On June 29 2011 02:15 Palmar wrote:
you're insane, if you think you've caught the mafia team day 1.
Im sure there are towns in that list, but please focus on the arguments. Do you think im wrong? Since i tend to believe you and gm are scum i think you would disagree. Do you? And why? I keep requesting comments on my theory i only get stupid one liners.
On June 29 2011 02:15 Palmar wrote:
you're insane, if you think you've caught the mafia team day 1.
On June 29 2011 00:09 youngminii wrote:
i like the way you think theawesomeall
don't worry about palmar though, he's always like this
i can only think of gmarshal as the best dt candidate for now
So no one disagrees? only palmar thinks im insane (not even disagreeing typical scum btw) so this will be the day 1 lynch?
On June 29 2011 02:24 Mig wrote:
Awesome I disagree with the GM lynch. I think GM has been trying to be pro town and when I have seen him play mafia in the past he is rarely this outspoken and active. This basically seems like GM town play 101. There are way better targets for a day 1 lynch than someone who is as active as him.
So just because he is active as he was when he played town, he must be town now as well? In that case Jackal is townie, since he led a foolish day 1 lynch in the game i played with him as well.
+ Show Spoiler +Metagaming is all good but focus on my arguments please, he got SUPER defensive when i accused Hiro, auto voted for me, went from super aggressive to backing up in 2 posts flat, made his voice worthless by saying he was looking for my 'tic'. What do you think about that?
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On June 29 2011 02:51 GMarshal wrote:Please, please, please keep it down to one or two candidates day 1, too many FoSes only causes chaos and disjointed voting. If you want to push my case go for it, but limit yourself to that and maybe one other, posting 4 mafia candidates allows the mafia to push whichever ones they want from that list, while ignoring the guilty.
solid point man,
hiro
GM
so hard to choose between drazerk and hiro, but since drazerk was town last time we played he must be town now.
(i take metagame arguments with a grain of salt :>)
(nevermind read his recent post)
Drazerk
GM
Lets give Drazerk some credit. Because after all, who started the bandwagon against 201? who succesfully shifted the discussion away from GM? Hell yeah, Drazerk .
On June 28 2011 21:46 Drazerk wrote:After reading Dropbear's post on Henry is anyone Else suspicious of Edward the first? At the start of the game he is Pretty much forced into talking by Henry which Dropbear picked up on but no one really followed it up. ( I think LSB died a few moments later ) Show nested quote +On June 28 2011 14:37 Sinani201 wrote:On June 28 2011 14:26 DropBear wrote:
2. On June 28 2011 12:21 Sinani201 wrote:On June 28 2011 12:15 sinani206 wrote:
Blues should play however and whenever they want. I shouldn't even have to mention that the townie is the most important role in the game. Analysis wins games, not blues. Let's get some pressure going.
I'm pretty annoying, so I'm going to pressure ##Vote: Sinani201 into being active because I know how much time he spends sitting at his computer and I don't want him to die from lurker KP his first game.
If someone dies from lurker KP, do they get banlisted? You're already voting for me? First off, I am not Sinani201. I'm Nisani201. Second of all, if you want me to make a post, you could have asked nicely. I don't have anything to contribute yet. I'm reading every single post, and when I feel like I have enough information, I will contribute. This little exchange confuses me. Why was it necessary to do this? Scumbuddies I wonder, trying to keep each other from being lurker targets? This early matey stuff reminds me of Irish_Punk13 in XXXIX. We all know what alignment he ended up flipping. Voting Edward the 1st. You're right, the exchange wasn't necessary. But he wanted someone new to talk, and he knew that I was online at the time. As other people have said the majority of his posts are him stating they are not the same person and the only thing he has truly contributed was outlining a mistake by Chaos Either Alerting his mafia buddies of a possible medic claim or just being stupid Show nested quote +On June 28 2011 13:24 Sinani201 wrote:On June 28 2011 13:22 chaos13 wrote:
Would somebody mind assembling a list of the skilled/veteran players for myself and the others who are not familiar with all the names in the roster? A 'priority list', if you will, of players mafia are likely to kill first. From this, it seems like you are either trying to help the Mafia, or softclaiming medic. Or perhaps trying to help the medic. Personally Im suspecting Both Edward and Henry due to the amount of Fluff they are producing to keep of that lurker list
Wow they are talking with each other and not really contributing. You know why that isnt scummy?
Because they arent trying to blend in. They seems oblivious of the town, there is no way they are getting lynched, because they are town (or so they think)
They have no fear and are two untamed lovers using every communication they got to express that.
Scum doesnt do that
On June 29 2011 01:32 Drazerk wrote:Show nested quote +On June 29 2011 01:26 TheAwesomeAll wrote:YM and Syllo stop arguing with each other, you arent producing anything. On June 29 2011 00:38 syllogism wrote:
I checked his post history earlier. He has generated a lot of discussion which is goodt and is obviously attempting to establish himself as a town leader. Some of his posts have a bit weak logic, but I didn't notice anything particularly anti-town. I'm leaning town as if he were scum, he would pretty much have to be GF. Stating he isn't wishywashy about his vote is a bit odd though. Who are you talking about? What do you think? cast your vote? You are soft defending him, like really really soft. Almost as if you dont want to be associated with him if he were to turn red. Dont do that . Also you are playing so defensive On June 29 2011 00:12 syllogism wrote:
Oh okay so the one who has actually posted something of substance is the suspicious one. The one who has given the new and different format some thought rather than post worthless lists and copy pasted "how town should play" guides. Perfect.
My plan for lynch was going to be lynching someone who has posted a lot to avoid being on the lurker list without contributing anything, but unfortunately some players feel the need to post their every single thought, including the fact this is a decent idea if there are no better alternatives present. I even hinted that Dropbear should stop alluding to this plan as it relies on players not actually being aware of it, but he still made another reference. what was that post about, who is accusing you? FoS list
hiro
GM
syllogism
Drazerk
YM stop spamming, you are not doing the town any favors. Also arguing with Syllo will only does him favors if he is scum. In general these stupid 'fights' are really anti town since mafia can blend in, participate, post, with 0% slip chance. Why is everyone ignoring GM?? I posted a LOT on him and no one is responding? Dropbear posted 2 posts 1 accusing GM 1 accusing *Henry* Drazerk comes in and Asking if anyone else felt like he did after that post of Dropbear. Removing all his responsability, then he waits for Palmar to vote before he votes. Discussion derailed. As pointed out above drazerk is obvious mafia, But he isnt sitting back, hes actively derailing the thread so GMarshal doesnt get lynchedDrazerk do you think GM is mafia? Can you defend yourself? Do you think Hiro is mafia? How do I always get pinned as mafia within the first day... Do you really want me to start martyring again? left right and centre?
Anyway i think GMarshal is possibly scum im not certain unlike how I am with 201/206 so im not going to stick my neck out on the line unless im certain ( see XL / Mini I rarely commit until im positive )
As for Hiro I did not get into the day until after he dropped off and am going to need to look at all of his posts again before I say anything.
And he didnt say anything
On June 29 2011 01:35 Drazerk wrote:Show nested quote +On June 29 2011 01:28 TheAwesomeAll wrote:On June 28 2011 22:24 Drazerk wrote:On June 28 2011 22:10 Palmar wrote:
only problem with lynching sinani206 is that the last game I played with him his combo was:
a) post fluff, lists and useless shit
b) claim veteran
c) get lynched.
It's hard to analyse people who we know act super scummy as town anyway.
But sure, he's the best idea so far, let's bandwagon this thing. Hmm As im already FoSing these two guys I still think 201 may be a more of a pressing target as he has acted most like scum, although I believe both of them are possible scum and if 206 comes up red we will Probably have another shot to take Tommorow. ( See that small pointless engagement at the start of the game ) Do you really think they are both scum? seems a bit unlikely doesnt it?
From my experience the more unlikely something is the more likely it is to happen ... if that makes any sense at all Why not have both of them as mafia would be pretty easy to hide as "RL friends"
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His other posts are about the Scum Walhalla that is lurkers and technical issues. The important thing is how he succefully diverted attention from GM. Discuss.
(dt check this guy, shoot GM imo)
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