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Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States6046 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-15 04:49:44
June 15 2011 04:44 GMT
#1
In the IdrA Fanclub, female only tournament threads, and likely many other threads, there seems to be a problem with posters feeling the need to post their opinion on the thread about stuff that is kind of offtopic. However, it is relevant enough to completely derail the topic. Could we report people who do this?

The post and posters aren't offensive or anything, but they simply derail the topic. I skimmed over the Ten Commandments before typing this thread, and it didn't have any special mention of derailing, although you could twist the words a little to make the Ten Commandments apply to derailing. If I didn't explain myself enough, here are some examples.

NESL Iron Lady Launches! Thread:

On June 10 2011 05:41 SaYyId wrote:
I still don't know: why are females and males separated?

On June 10 2011 06:12 Mikey wrote:
Kind of stupid if you ask me. No offense to female gamers, but why should they get there own tournaments that exclude male players? Do tournaments exclude women from them? No. I think this is just meant to make female players stand out, but should they stand out if they aren't achieving results in normal tournaments?


I really do not need to go on because this has been happening since the first female only tournament. Since Teamliquid is an awesome community relative to other public forums, people actually called out the derailers telling them that they were derailing. This wasn't the case when those first female tournament threads popped up. If I recall correctly, one had to be closed (I don't know if it was remade.) because of the like 50 pages of off-topic discussion.

IdrA Fanclub Thread:

Luckily, most posters who shit on IdrA in his fanclub do it very offensively, so you could just report it without hesitation, but there are a few cases where it is sketchy. I guess you could report these posts, but this is why I made the thread: clarification

On June 15 2011 09:54 Greatness wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 15 2011 09:49 Mailing wrote:
TB cries every single time someone says anything slightly negative about him, especially on reddit and twitter.

He did it ALL THE TIME in WoW before he found out he was making no money from WoW and left...

Idra's been crying about the state of zerg since Beta, He's also been crying about state of Terran in BW when most of them were Terran bonjwa's, and still cried about them being UP

Don't be so one sided,. I don't know why you're attacking TB, when he's a great caster...

On June 15 2011 10:07 Greatness wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 15 2011 10:05 Kluey wrote:
I laughed when TotalBiscuit said something about e-sports. IdrA has done more for e-sports than TotalBiscuit could ever do.

You keep saying that, what has he done? Raged and cried about balance until he's made a name for himself based on DRAMA, and then use that fame to market himself in NA, if that, sure, then Idra has done more for esports than TB, especially in his pocketbook.

I like Idra too, been a fan since beta, but lets not say, he's doing it for the good of esports.

(It is by the same poster.)

Well, it isn't something overly offensive, and I would guess judgements on these two posts would be different between different moderators which is fine. But could I just report him for derailing the thread? I don't get why posters have the need to go into IdrA's Fanclub and post bad about him. Constructive criticism is fine...but this? As IdrA's #1 Fan, I don't give a shit when people hate on him, but if they go into the Fanclub and talk shit...it just gets pretty dumb after a few months.

And I'm sure this problem plagues many threads. But before I go reporting, I'd like to make sure that it would be okay. The last thing I'd want to do is to report a post that isn't report-worthy. Maybe the answer is obvious, but I always like to be 100% sure when it comes to using my report function.

edit: wow, right after i post this, a mod banner appears on top of idra's fanclub pretty much solving my question. oh well i guess an answer could still be used for other threads
Chill
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
Calgary25988 Posts
June 15 2011 06:09 GMT
#2
1. If you have to ask then you shouldn't report it.
2. I don't understand your question about reporting a thread that isn't report worthy. There is no grey area with reporting.
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Mailing
Profile Joined March 2011
United States3087 Posts
June 15 2011 06:14 GMT
#3
I think he is not asking if he should report something, he is asking if his reports will matter because TECHNICALLY, they are not breaking any of the commandments, even if Whole feels they should be reported? =|
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Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
June 15 2011 06:27 GMT
#4
Usually if its borderline, I just leave it personally (though lately I haven't).
If it becomes a persistent issue and starts derailing the topic or tumbling into a direction that isn't suitable, a staff member intervenes rather timely (how they do it so quickly is beyond my understanding).

Just stick with what you know :3
https://twitter.com/#!/TorteDeLini (@TorteDeLini)
starsucks
Profile Joined January 2011
233 Posts
June 15 2011 06:39 GMT
#5
Is it on the other hand allowed to open up threads in order to exclusively hate on certain progamers? If it's not allowed in their fan threads are threads where it is allowed and conveyed?
Whole
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States6046 Posts
June 15 2011 06:51 GMT
#6
On June 15 2011 15:14 Mailing wrote:
I think he is not asking if he should report something, he is asking if his reports will matter because TECHNICALLY, they are not breaking any of the commandments, even if Whole feels they should be reported? =|


Ya, that is what I was asking....but

On June 15 2011 15:09 Chill wrote:
1. If you have to ask then you shouldn't report it.


kind of solves it.
Gummy
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States2180 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-15 07:23:24
June 15 2011 07:23 GMT
#7
I can't wait until I can report people. I hope I last long enough.

User was banned for this post

User was temp banned for this post.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯ There are three kinds of people in the world: those who can count and those who can't.
xtfftc
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United Kingdom2343 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-15 12:11:25
June 15 2011 12:09 GMT
#8
On June 15 2011 15:39 starsucks wrote:
Is it on the other hand allowed to open up threads in order to exclusively hate on certain progamers? If it's not allowed in their fan threads are threads where it is allowed and conveyed?

If you are going to hate on anyone, don't.

P.S. This is not a "let's all be friends" type of thing. It's just that on a forum as big as TL, all it would achieve is producing more noise.
57 Corvette
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada5941 Posts
June 15 2011 13:28 GMT
#9
On June 15 2011 16:23 Gummy wrote:
I can't wait until I can report people. I hope I last long enough.

User was banned for this post

User was temp banned for this post.


So, I am guessing he put in the perm ban message himself, and then the mods temp banned him?
Survival is winning, everything else is bullshit.
Whole
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States6046 Posts
June 15 2011 21:16 GMT
#10
On June 15 2011 22:28 57 Corvette wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 15 2011 16:23 Gummy wrote:
I can't wait until I can report people. I hope I last long enough.

User was banned for this post

User was temp banned for this post.


So, I am guessing he put in the perm ban message himself, and then the mods temp banned him?


Yeah, I was F5'ing the ban thread to see when it would happen.
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
June 15 2011 22:38 GMT
#11
TheFollowers was just banned by Plexa.

That account was created on 2011-06-05 07:06:20 and had 5 posts.

Reason: So yeah. You also happen to be the last guy to make a JEcho fanclub. I wonder if you're getting the message yet?


What's going on here? JEcho club is not permitted?
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Whole
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States6046 Posts
June 16 2011 00:01 GMT
#12
On June 16 2011 07:38 Torte de Lini wrote:
Show nested quote +
TheFollowers was just banned by Plexa.

That account was created on 2011-06-05 07:06:20 and had 5 posts.

Reason: So yeah. You also happen to be the last guy to make a JEcho fanclub. I wonder if you're getting the message yet?


What's going on here? JEcho club is not permitted?


plexa said

Someone who is not Ploodo, feel free to make a real fanclub if you want.

Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
June 16 2011 06:38 GMT
#13
Er, I believe I posted in the wrong topic. I was looking for awhile as to where I posted this.
My bad.
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Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17266 Posts
June 16 2011 07:25 GMT
#14
On June 15 2011 15:27 Torte de Lini wrote:
Usually if its borderline, I just leave it personally (though lately I haven't).

I usually do the opposite. If it's enough to make you think that reporting is a good idea, then mods probably should take a look at it to reach a verdict.
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Whole
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States6046 Posts
June 16 2011 07:45 GMT
#15
On June 16 2011 16:25 Craton wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 15 2011 15:27 Torte de Lini wrote:
Usually if its borderline, I just leave it personally (though lately I haven't).

I usually do the opposite. If it's enough to make you think that reporting is a good idea, then mods probably should take a look at it to reach a verdict.

but i'd feel so guilty at the thought of wasting a mod's time.
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