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Foreigners teams need a World Alliance
Its obvious that the world has amazing talent. Players like Naniwa, Thorzain and Idra have been able to put up fights against some of the best koreans, and that, even with jet lag is pretty impressive. The fact of the matter is though, that koreans are much better organized. In korea you have groups of amazingly skilled players thinking together to do problem solving, find out timings, etc. Right now, most of the best strategies and timings are built arround korean group geniality. For any foreigner to try and take into the gsl, they would have to realize that their challenge is not even to beat individual players, but groups of progamers analyzing and delivering strategies built to beat them. For anyone to play against MMA in the gsl, they would have to battle the whole Slayers team, plus coach, since they would all be helping him not only in practice, but pin-pointing all your mistakes, and tendencies as a player, your favorite strategies, etc.
Foreigner teams need to form an alliance, where we can see Naniwa, Idra, Thorzain, Major, Kas, Incontrol, Tyler, Sen, Etc. all practicing together with a couple head coaches (Artosis for example) giving their opinions. Just look at the results of what happened with them, working together for a couple weaks to take onto korea in Korea vs World team match? Who cares if they're in different teams?, the world interest will rise with the non-koreans doing better, because right now, many people (and with a good argument), will tell you that foreigners just don't stand a chance.
If we had a group of non-koreans that were able to win tournaments against them, the popularity of Starcraft worldwide would rise, and with that, the sponsor interest.
Foreigner progamers need to focus on their game!
Its almost like they've already grown bored of StarCraft, you have talents like Incontrol, and Idra doing anything but playing seriously... looking for any excuse to do online content be it as casting for nasl, being in the state of the game, or inside the game, commenting games, interviews, etc..... FOCUS ON IMPROVING YOUR PLAY!!!!, i understand coaching and all that stuff is needed for them to make a "proper" living, but there should be a limit in the amount of hours they spend in those kind of things. How can they even wish to compete with koreans, when they're not even practicing half the time koreans are, let alone not even having the quality training partners, coaches and help they do. This obviously goes back to the need of having a world alliance, but man, it sucks to see talent wasted.
Idra's got the most fanboys
For the whole weekend all i was reading is that Idra was kind enough to give others $5,000 usd by letting them win, games like MMA vs Idra, and the first 3 games vs MC were mentioned as him throwing away his MLG Win.
MMA vs Idra (Test bug). After a silly fight that idra should've never engaged with (atleast not with the amount of units he sended), he was left with 5-6 Mutalisks, and no more than 20 zerglings... MMA Had atleast over 7 tanks, and idra was over the assumption that the command center was still there minning the gold. Why would anyone even consider the possibility of someone of the caliber of MMA destroying his own command center?, Idra failed at something Losira didnt, which was the balance between Drones and Zerglings. With losira you could always see the SWARM!, Idra, on that fight, barely had any units to start with. Lets say the game was not over yet, which i agree, but to even say or consider idra was in a winning position, is just silly.
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Nah.
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Problem of geography basically. That and most foreigners aren't dedicated to live in the pro house environment playing 10-12 hours a day. And I don't mean a bunch of players living together.
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On June 07 2011 00:50 theOnslaught wrote:
MMA vs Idra (Test bug). After a silly fight that idra should've never engaged with (atleast not with the amount of units he sended), he was left with 5-6 Mutalisks, and no more than 20 zerglings... MMA Had atleast over 7 tanks, and idra was over the assumption that the command center was still there minning the gold. Why would anyone even consider the possibility of someone of the caliber of MMA destroying his own command center?, Idra failed at something Losira didnt, which was the balance between Drones and Zerglings. With losira you could always see the SWARM!, Idra, on that fight, barely had any units to start with. Lets say the game was not over yet, which i agree, but to even say or consider idra was in a winning position, is just silly.
Idra was ahead in everything after the fight and he could also see the command center being constructed.
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I agree with you completely except for what you wrote about IdrA. I am not an Idra-fanboy but it is clear to me that Idra did leave some games completely needlessly, especially that one against MMA. I hope that doesn't become the focus of your post and it is pretty weird that you included it, now you will just get swarmed by Idra fans (and other people who agree with me).
However, your point about there needing to be progamer practice houses/big alliances outside of Korea is quite true, and I would love to see it. Not just small practice houses with a few people of the same area/team, but some form of big alliance which would regulate and organize cross-team practice.
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That idra part is so wrong I'm not sure if it's serious or not.
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I learned something: Always scout before leaving a game, even if you think you're behind and losing badly because your opponent could have totally killed his CC.
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On June 07 2011 00:50 theOnslaught wrote:
he was left with 5-6 Mutalisks, and no more than 20 zerglings... MMA Had atleast over 7 tanks, and idra was over the assumption that the command center was still there minning the gold.
IdrA quit when he had like 15 mutas at like 30 lings in production. MMA had no third and was essentially all-in there.
MMA had little anti-air.
IdrA would have won that game if he had stays.
However, I do agree with you when you say htat he obviously didnt purposely lose the game.
He simply neeeds to work on attitude problems, just like MMA said post-match
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On June 07 2011 00:52 kirbynator wrote:
Nah.
Woah dude.
I thought the article was fairly well thought out, and had some great points!
Korea vs. The World showed great results from foreigners working together as a team, and that power could really help with results on the world stage.
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On June 07 2011 00:55 Darneck wrote:Show nested quote +On June 07 2011 00:50 theOnslaught wrote:
MMA vs Idra (Test bug). After a silly fight that idra should've never engaged with (atleast not with the amount of units he sended), he was left with 5-6 Mutalisks, and no more than 20 zerglings... MMA Had atleast over 7 tanks, and idra was over the assumption that the command center was still there minning the gold. Why would anyone even consider the possibility of someone of the caliber of MMA destroying his own command center?, Idra failed at something Losira didnt, which was the balance between Drones and Zerglings. With losira you could always see the SWARM!, Idra, on that fight, barely had any units to start with. Lets say the game was not over yet, which i agree, but to even say or consider idra was in a winning position, is just silly.
Idra was ahead in everything after the fight and he could also see the command center being constructed.
And he had 20~ drones stacked on one geyser, which may have led him to believe he was further behind than he thought.
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Stick to one of the 90 open threads about MLG, please. It's terrible forum etiquette to open a new topic just to get your word in about something that's already being discussed.
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