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Barundar
Profile Joined May 2010
Denmark1582 Posts
May 28 2011 18:29 GMT
#66
mmmm
/in
Bartundar
Barundar
Profile Joined May 2010
Denmark1582 Posts
May 31 2011 08:58 GMT
#639
Hey all, glad to see the person I gave it to like my role, hope you use it well! As for my own role, guess whoever gave it don’t know me that well

In general a good amount of people need to put some more effort into their posts. When I’m short on time I’d much rather read 2-3 well thought out posts than pages of 1 liner back and forths. Meapak you started strong, I hope you won’t succumb to the spam as well.

To the people that thinks this is an experienced game, you are wrong. We are actually pretty low on vets, which the general posting standard is a testimony to. This is good news however, you don’t have to feel intimidated or new by the players here, use this to your advantage by having your own clear opinions and thoughts.

It seems like we got some people with posting restriction in the game, which is a disappointment in my opinion, since it limits the player not the character. However, this means you have to be more careful than usual using meta as an argument. If someone is posting strangely, you never know if they are acting in a certain way, or posting a certain amounts of posts because of it. Amber is best ignored for now, and as long as Palmar keeps contributing more than fistpumps, he can play this in any way he wants to.

BC looks town to me, he suggested a plan that was meant to generate discussion and provide reads, and even if it didn’t, he followed up on it with it without having to. Compare this to his play as godfather in mafia XXVIII, where he provided a list that did nothing more than call attention to himself and other vets: + Show Spoiler +
On July 18 2010 05:09 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
The game of Mafia has begun, and its time we get it going properly.

Some decent idea's have been laid out and we can consider them viable.

We have a few basics to remember in a setup like this. Trust no one. For all of the newer players. Stay out of PM land. If by god you go there, please only do so after the person your talking to has been confirmed. The chances for a minor slip up is enough to get you sniped if your blue, or give out information that you may have if you have it.

Secondly, we should set up potential lists of people to watch out for until they can be confirmed. I would start with

BloodyC0bbler
Foolishness
DTA
YoungMirii
Citizen

I believe us 5 should be under the most scrutiny at the beginning of this game.
Next we need medics to protect intelligently. Protect people you think will get hit. Analyze what people are saying then think if its something that would warrant mafia hitting them. IF so, put them on a list. Do this a few times and you have yourself a medic list to protect off of.

Next, day 1 lynch we have a few options
a) vote for the most inactive player
b) Vote for someone to RNG a player then vote on them
c) Vote for someone whos scummy (bad idea)

Now, with that all said and done, Lets get this party started.
My only caveat BC is the lack of reasoning in your posts, even if it corresponds a lot to my own, the point of the excercise is to provide content, not lists.

DropBear I like the effort you put into analysis, just be careful with posting too many at a time, it clutters up the thread and make people stop reading them. Kitaman is a hard person to read with a lot of short posts as town, I wouldn't put him as mafia just yet.

On May 31 2011 10:54 Jackal58 wrote:
And while we're at it. Hey Barundar. It's summer league now. I bowl on Wednesdays.

Good to know, wouldn’t want to call you town just because you posted on Tuesdays . Good to have you back!
Bartundar
Barundar
Profile Joined May 2010
Denmark1582 Posts
June 01 2011 06:24 GMT
#957
I'm back and reading up on thread now. Sorry for my low activity level so far.
Bartundar
Barundar
Profile Joined May 2010
Denmark1582 Posts
June 01 2011 07:19 GMT
#966
lol viscara you came up with that survey just so you could soft claim? Why on earth would you do that on day 1....

On June 01 2011 13:42 VisceraEyes wrote:
You guys can lynch me if you want, you've seen the questions, the answers are irrelevant. If everyone answers them, we'll have a LOT to go on as far as scum-hunting goes. If some people answer them, you'll have some to go on. If no one answers them, then mafia already won.

This is just a bunch of WIFOM. Quite frankly there has been plenty of times for funny day 1 quizzes, there strength is to give people a reason to post in the beginning, with about 12 hours to night post it's not going to bring valuable information.

On June 01 2011 14:12 VisceraEyes wrote:
Pro-town..besides me (herp)....I'd have to say Amber. He's going to a lot of effort to contribute so far, and most of it has been relevant imo...by which I mean, I agree on most of his vaguely communicated reads so far. I also feel like Node is green. He's at least giving us his opinion, and most of it is fair that I've read.
I fail to see what is so pro town about a guy that just quotes and votes. Quite frankly it would be terrible town play by any measure. He started the Sandroba train and has been awol since.

On June 01 2011 14:43 VisceraEyes wrote:
@BloodyC0bbler

Tell me this list-guy. Why do you think I'm supposedly on the dog's unverified list? I have no idea, as I'm obviously inexperienced and, as you say, terrible...but I suspect it's because he either knows my role or my alignment.

You don't like the attention?
Bartundar
Barundar
Profile Joined May 2010
Denmark1582 Posts
June 01 2011 07:22 GMT
#967
Bartundar should also live another day to see if his inactivity will be a day 1 affair or a serious issue. His alignment should be gleaned fairly quickly based on his participation in thread.

Will be a lot easier for me to keep up once thread slows down.
Bartundar
Barundar
Profile Joined May 2010
Denmark1582 Posts
June 01 2011 08:01 GMT
#971
I agree way too little attention has been given to the more experienced players this game. Only one of them I feel I got a solid read on is Node, who has been posting consistently. Amber has been getting away with very little without being questioned, and bum has been on two wagons. These are the hardest players to read, but they are also the players decon knows the best, and is most likely to give special alignments.

I'm most suspicious of Meapak at the moment. He posted a long post to improve thread readability in the start, but has since succumbed to way simpler posting. He asks BC and bum to calm the thread down, but doesn't do it himself. He is eager to answer the quiz questions by visceyes, and even happy to give more reasons later, but quickly changing his mind when it's pointed out it gives scum an easy reason to post.

He is pushing hard for a Tackster lynch, which seems like an easy target considering how hard it can be to keep up with this thread.
Bartundar
Barundar
Profile Joined May 2010
Denmark1582 Posts
June 01 2011 15:06 GMT
#1033
Urgh Kurumi your posts are so hard to read. You went almost unnoticed in PYPI until you blew yourself up because of it. If tnkted hadn't pointed it out, I would have completely missed that last line.

Chaos13: While I agree GM is scummy, I question whether we really need another lynch target. The guy is pressuring me and all, but it wasn't unjustified pressure. It's pretty standard for him to play the inactives worst nightmare day 1.

Also I disagree with you on viscara eyes, I don't think the questions was to promote discussion, I think it was so he could answer it himself and claim veteran. Why on earth would he do that as town? The whole point of having an extra life is to get scum to shoot you. I'm going to vote him to see how he react to pressure.
Bartundar
Barundar
Profile Joined May 2010
Denmark1582 Posts
June 01 2011 15:27 GMT
#1043
chaos13: Seems like a bunch of wifom to me :/. And oh the irony GM....
Bartundar
Barundar
Profile Joined May 2010
Denmark1582 Posts
June 02 2011 07:21 GMT
#1329
Why do people keep asking for medic protect on dropbear after he has asked not to be? And having BC back as a confirmed town forum vet is fucking good, no matter possible drawbacks to his role.
Bartundar
Barundar
Profile Joined May 2010
Denmark1582 Posts
June 02 2011 07:49 GMT
#1330
So we have

1. Bum who claims SK.
2. sina who claims to be able to bring back BC if he gets shot. Without knowing much about it, I guess you pick a dead guy who will replace you if you die during the night?
3. Only reason not to have bum shoot sina is if sina gets roleblocked so he dies without reviving BC.

Having BC, who is one of the best players on this forum, back as a confirmed green, would be a freaking huge asset to the town, and the fact that random vigi’s would maybe have their shot blocked because he comes back is a shit argument against it.

Best solution would be to have watcher roles watching sina. If mafia tries to roleblock sina, we get a mafia. I know we can’t be sure if we have any watcher roles, but neither can mafia. Question is if they want to risk one of their own just to stop BC from coming back. I say we go for it, and let mafia shit in their pants about the choice tonight.

Lastly I’m most inclined to agree with Kita, there is no reason for us to believe Bum is not scum. He is an excellent choice for a DT check tonight, so we can deal with him tomorrow.
Bartundar
Barundar
Profile Joined May 2010
Denmark1582 Posts
June 02 2011 08:05 GMT
#1331
On June 02 2011 07:51 Mig wrote:
Vets like barundar who are not contributing should be focused on.

Wait what? Who the fuck are you? I searched on your name and the last post was on page 28. If you want to bring weak fingerpointing like that you have better done your homework, I bet you haven't even read half my posts.

Nice job parroting Node as well btw.
Bartundar
Barundar
Profile Joined May 2010
Denmark1582 Posts
June 02 2011 08:34 GMT
#1333
I'm fine with being criticized on activity level. I'm not OK with stabs at my character. Saying I have not been contributing is a weak general statement, that just undermines my credibility. If you look at what happened to Incognito in PYP:Insane, you will see that if you call someone scum long enough, you can be the most pro town player around, and still be super suspicious.

You popped up and actually said something that could either be a stupid comment by a town, or a weak character stab from a mafia. Either case, I'm not going to let it slip by.
Bartundar
Barundar
Profile Joined May 2010
Denmark1582 Posts
June 03 2011 00:01 GMT
#1550
Modconfirmed red check

##Vote Wiggles

Will read thread tomorrow...
Bartundar
Barundar
Profile Joined May 2010
Denmark1582 Posts
June 03 2011 07:36 GMT
#1592
Why do you believe one of them claiming over the other? Mafia want's to push SK's that helps town you know...
Bartundar
Barundar
Profile Joined May 2010
Denmark1582 Posts
June 03 2011 22:55 GMT
#1691
If we have up to 5 third parties, and 2 people already claiming SK, I'd guess we have 3 assassins. That number fits with the last game that featured assassins. I don't trust the people who where random shooting and claimed vigi one bit because of it, if they have another win condition they will continue to "shoot for information", simply because it furthers their win condition.
Bartundar
Barundar
Profile Joined May 2010
Denmark1582 Posts
June 04 2011 00:39 GMT
#1693
Very, very hard to keep up with thread in the last week Jackal. Should improve now that I'm going home. What happened to your smileys btw?
Bartundar
Barundar
Profile Joined May 2010
Denmark1582 Posts
June 04 2011 02:08 GMT
#1695
Well Jackal I'm pulling an all night so I might as well give some thoughts now.

Lurkers have been living a disappointingly super easy life in this game. For an example I could hardly post in the beginning, yet only GM actually put a vote on me. Players like Mig, Karshe and Tortelini have been scooting the minimal posting threshold without any real pressure. Plus we have Amber, who we can't get a read on. If he is mafia, he is getting by in the easiest way possible.

I'm not sure how many of you actually payed attention to his posts, but I'm impressed with EternalMisfit. He seemed pretty bad in the last game I played with him, but so far his posts has been well reasoned without succumbing to the spam the majority of town is so fond of.

Jackal is town. It's very hard to fake a rage post like the one he did.

Palmar has been shooting randomly, managed to hit a mole and now claims to be the most pro town player around. My top guy for an SK if one of the 2 claims is lying.

Meapak has had some shoddy reasoning IMO, and has been apprehensive towards the wiggle lynch, my top suspect after the claimed anti towns. Mataza likewise.

Rest of the mafia is probably amongst the newer players, plenty of time to figure them out while we kill our way through the current anti town players.

Can anyone tell me why bringing back BC as a confirmed town is such a bad idea? Vigi's should shoot Sinani come night imo, he isn't contributing anyways, and BC is the kind of player that pegs a whole mafia team by himself (even if Kita shoots him for it).

Lastly I can't keep track of the PM circles. Is it correct that we have

1. Jackal + Bum
2. GM + Kurumi
3. redFF + Amber?
Bartundar
Barundar
Profile Joined May 2010
Denmark1582 Posts
June 05 2011 10:59 GMT
#1894
Depends on if he used the SK hit to kill, or a Joker ability. I'd assume someone alignment checked Bum by now. In any case he is anti town and unless we catch a mafia should die tomorrow -_-

Meapak clears TDL, and both of them was on my suspect list. Seems very convenient.

@GM where is your gargantuan post? I don't think you would prove anything just by killing Kurumi. The guy seems eager to shoot who town tells him to. If you actually are town, maybe recruit chaos13 or redFF to start connecting the circles. That way you guys can control Kurumi's shot.

Mig has started to post more, so he is off my list of lurkers for now. Karshe, Hiro Protagonist and stefftastiq seems to have disappeared from thread however.
Bartundar
Barundar
Profile Joined May 2010
Denmark1582 Posts
June 05 2011 20:30 GMT
#1924
Pictures are tolerated, who told you otherwise? I don't understand your post, are you hinting your role or arguing for a plan?
Bartundar
Barundar
Profile Joined May 2010
Denmark1582 Posts
June 05 2011 22:17 GMT
#1974
@cth who knows, this game is so fucked up.

Why you would kill Kita is beyond me.

We really lack a proper lynch with cases and arguments. Way too many people are starting to fall off the radar because there is no pressure on anyone else. That said, bum is confirmed anti town, so for now he gets my vote...
Bartundar
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