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 Remember Insane 2? Think we can hit 50 pages by night 1?Anyway my 2 cents - i think revealing who we created roles for is useless. Mafia would know everyone that they created a role for and could share it in their quicktopics - we on the other hand would have no useful info to share in thread. And what's with all the Pound Fisting?? Am I the only one that finds that suspicious? Palmar wrote a command and 2 people replied - that has to be looked into... | ||
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The amber and redFF debate: I find it surprising that redFF would assume Amber could speak normally in PMs. The roles were decided pre alignment and I assume Amber cant PM normally nor speak to mafia in quicktopics normally if he is red. (This is an ASSUMPTION!) As this provides us with no leads and knowing roles does not hint at alignment I suggest it becomes redFFs mission to decipher Ambers talk in PMs without clogging up the thread. This way we can open an avenue of conversation with the dog that is clear and not waste peoples time with it in thread. If either is lying the other can out them, if both are lying we'll find out soon enough. Make sense? Next I had a horrid thought - what if Palmar had the role to fist pound everyone in game to win? SCARY!!! I'm annoyed many haven't voted in thread. I hope this picks up as I hate having to check the voting thread and I assume anyone not double voting (as suggested in the OP) is being sneaky! Voting in thread means being explicit too - not just saying 'i think *** may be mafia' and going off to vote. Next i came across tnkted coagulation vote. I can see how if he had to pick a random name tnkted would pick Coag but I dont think there's enough info here for strong guesses (not that it ever stops me )I thought that maybe tomorrow we should out any roles we feel would be too strong if Mafia had them OR out any people we created a mafia sided role for without outing the role. This is just an idea and does not reflect on the role created. However townies would be interested in outing strong mafia-usable roles so i thought this may be a good plan. DISCUSS! Next: What is Amber is the mole? I remember when I red about the mole/s I thought to myself that it would be best if mafia tried to contact me ASAP so I can setup some grounds for the switch (eg. not outing my role or outing pro-town info). If Amber is the mole mafia may have told redFF to contact amber to let him know and redFF felt he had to out.. Food for thought! Then I read Zeapaks post - I hope this post if full of enough information for you. I honestly noted everything I thought relevant and through a strong migraine as well  Viscera Eyes you pounded waaaaaay to early.. I really DONT like this whole Palmar thing. IF Palmar is pro town why would he out that he has a role that scales with pounds? That sounds like someone mafia would kill just in case. If he is Mafia though he has a good reason to reveal - to get pounds from town as well as maf (otherwise mafia is self revealed as all the pounders). Also I'm thinking if Palmar says 4 is the critical point but more are better I ASSUME that theres a mathematical rule to his ability. EG. He gets to use it #pounds/2 -> so 4 pounds = 2 uses which is more realistic than 6 for 3 and more useful than 3 for 1. Just a thought. I feel Kita is under too much pressure and being BWed on d1. We dont have any real info yet only conjecture. How can Kita be under that much discussion when there's more people to check? Finally the conversation has changed to sanroba but only recently! Mataza I'm finding your comments and play style very weird. Especially: Mataza Germany. May 31 2011 20:51. Posts 406 Palmar, bro, you said you need at least 4 fistpounds to get working. So cut the small talk, tell ya bros what number of fistpounds are critical, will ya? Ya know, the last thing I wanna risk is having a bro´s ego inflated by fistpounds, making him explode or something. No really, if ya share love ya gotta also share knowledge. Not only had Palmar already explained that more were better but mataza chooses this point to complain. Sounds like a possible mafia who doesnt want to pound. Even though he sounds friendly with Palmar. Next post is cryptic cos I don't know the meta: Mataza Germany. May 31 2011 21:21. Posts 406 Dude, you are behaving a lot like last game. First of all, there is not much of kitatrain right now. Secondly, the "I won´t change unless you bring a solid defense" is what you did as mafia, too. Problem is, you CANNOT have a solid defense in a mafia game. Doubt is the normal state towards everyone. You might as well ask for the holy grail before the crusade even begun. And I don´t exactly buy that more fistpounds are beneficial without any strict numbers behind it. Carrying over to the next day I could understand. Increments tied to certain numbers I could understand. But every single fistpound being beneficial is just weird. It has to be either percentual increments or full numbers of people then. And full numbers of people is what I greatly fear. Last game, you broke this bros heart. This time it ain´t gonna be fixed with a fistpound and smile. Imma never trust you again. First of all I think there is a Kita Train. Secondly I think this sounds very much like a mafia justifying not pounding. Now I myself justified not pounding but only in a general 'we dont know what it does sense'. Mataza seems to trust the mechanic but not the use of it (Why more pounds? Use less for a Benefit...) Having said that this is just something I found strange NOT an all out FOS Also on the iPhone Fist Pound keeps getting corrected to Fish Pond - LOL Next Chaos13 said Im reluctant to contribute - In fact I am in a different time zone, i sleep ALOT and I am slow at reading mafia threads!! Bum pressuring a role claim on tnkted - now that I didnt like. I dont like BWs d1 and I know bum has been mentioned before but he is definitely on my 'tricksy' list. I don't see how a roleclaim d1 on someone you have no info on is beneficial to town... Lastly Kurumi posted this strange riddle job. I have to say it's been really tough to break into but I suggest someone analyze his capitalisation - it sure is strange. Ok i'm off again - chat you guys tomorrow. KISSES xx | ||
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For funsies: #Fistpound Palmar My reveal is: I'm the Woman and my vote doesn't count (realistic i thought). I can make sandwiches at night and give them to someone to eat. That person will be too busy eating the next day to vote. Now I know I have no right to complain - I was really lurky this game. Blame it on a man flu or something However i'm happy to take one for the team cos as you can see my power is pretty weak early game and I wouldn't service town for ages. Take advantage of this and win it Greenies!!Btw deconduo is my house mate and he's really devoting alot to this game (I think he has the TL header burned into his monitor) so I hope you guys appreciate him for it! Also I think Jackal deserves a reward for not tunneling this game and actually defending me a little earlier. I was so surprised Congratulations to deconduo on hosting so far - it's shaping up to be better than Insane 2 and I really enjoyed that. Bum, tnkted, GMarshal, Jackal, etc. - Good Luck and have fun! Kisses xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx | ||
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Mataza Kurumi tnkted BumAtLarge [partially] And I have towny reads on: Meapak GMarshal Sandroba (yea that's right!) Amber redFF | ||
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Nothing personal - My vote dunnae count n'eways! | ||
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Anyway I was asking deconduo some questions cos the Batmans role reveal was very strange. Deconduo confirmed my suspicions that roles were RNGd to people REGARDLESS OF ALIGNMENT. So for instance it was most likely that batman and joker were both green and the fact that joker is black (allegedly) is just coincidence. Bum - You revealed for no reason... But let's take a look at that later. Also it seemed strange that the Batman and the Joker seemed so interlinked. Again as stated in the OP and confirmed by deconduo - some roles were changed before being sent out (read: nerfed). Because of this the batman and the joker were only linked after they were independently created and before they were assigned. There really is nothing to read into again (again Bum i don't understand your reveal at all). Also because of this we must watch out because some roles may not be the same as those assigned by the player. You guys can confirm this with deconduo independently of course although it is my understanding that's part of the fun and so he won't mention changes to a particular role (i think). Again this may only be with the Batman/Joker roles - I dont know. Ok so now getting onto Bum. I can't believe you wouldn't confirm this before the reveal... Are you seriously expecting to survive with one vest and all of town knowing you're black? From the OP: Serial Killer You win if you are the last one standing. You have a bulletproof vest that can survive two night hits. You also have a gun that has two bullets. If we add in the fact that you're claiming your role power is a gun with 1 bullet/night then you are EXTREMELY vulnerable to everyone. Add to the fact that as you are not an assassin you CANNOT win with town and therefore we have NO reason to ally with you... Bum i really need you to explain this to me as it's very premature. Did you forget to use the RPGs again? Ok another detail I want to mention - we all know who we created a role for. We can't claim it yet but tomorrow hopefully myself, amber, redff and bum's creators can confirm who we are. However remember mafia know who all the other mafia are. If a mafia has created a role for any of us it is in his interest not to claim so that we appear suspicious and die. Also a mafia member that was picked for by another mafia member can claim any role and be confirmed. Because of this i think dt checks should be performed on all people that have revealed their roles AS A RULE. Not only does this confirm abilities as well as alignment (in essence a double check) but also stops mafia from fake claiming which could be disastrous. I want to address a comment by someone (can't remember who) that I should give my ability up to the popular vote. On principle I will NOT do this. I have the ability to make someones vote useless. Seeing as this is only useful for ties it isn't very helpful yet anyway. However I will obviously quash anyone i feel is scum. If i know some CONFIRMED greens then I will obviously take their opinions into account as well or discuss tactics or something. However I cannot let this ability be affected by mafia and as such will be choosing based on my internal scumdar. Live with that and if you dont like it hang me. Like I said it's not really a big deal yet anyway. Now I promised to work harder at this so I asked some questions I thought were important and I've posted what I know. I'm going to bed and will read up and add more flavour tomorrow. Sanroba this is not a fluff post as you can see and to be honest I felt my last one wasn't either. I unfortunately will be posting long posts with things I consider important and not short argumentative posts over an impossibly unimportant issue. That is all. Kisses from your lovely lady xx | ||
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On June 02 2011 09:33 kitaman27 wrote: I'm confused. Whoever created Batman must have knew about two roles as they mentioned the Joker as well. But that means that either people were talking about role creation outside the game or someone did not create a role. Someone created a role called batman. Someone else created a role called Joker. Deconduo decided to link the roles. He then RNGd the roles regardless of alignment (ie. anyone could be either). | ||
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On June 02 2011 09:42 bumatlarge wrote: I believe that's easy to explain tackster. The joker is my role, an SK gets a role on top of his alignment. Batman and joker obviously were added into the game by the host, and we have predetermined powers. I believe there are other normal SKs in the game. And would you really think the joker would b a town aligned role? If I had thought town was that gullible, I would have tried to tell everyone that deconduo wasn't the real host. My role leads me to believe I don't have a standard vest, as it specifically states I miraculously survive hits. Fairly certain protection piercing kp or lynch will kil me. I think you should read more into it tackster then spreading false information. I'm not going to go against win condition which is to survive. Since that mostly involves not getting lynched, I don't really have a choice in not claiming. Bum i'm not assuming anything - i asked deconduo and he confirmed it. | ||
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 There's no point in sticking around and if i couldn't stay up to date before i definitely wont now...Before I go: ##Sandwich: mataza MUAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA Enjoy the sandwich, good luck in general and enjoy the game guys! /sitout | ||
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