Surprisingly Normal Mini Mafia II

On May 20 2011 01:05 Palmar wrote:


Could you provide a link to this explanation. I re-read from the lynch, but really couldn't find it.

Are you perhaps confusing Nard with Hiro? Because Nard created a pretty substantial post with his thoughts.

On May 19 2011 20:01 nard wrote:
really interesting day/night turnout.

have some free time now to investigate a bit, so here it goes:

hiro protagonist: has a medium amount of posts/content on day 1 with a reasonable townie logic. defends viscera during the early FoS'ing between matazar and viscera. he keeps being slightly suspicious of matazar and offered imo the best reasoning for voting on day 1

in light of the last post by viscera we should not forget about the vote on skrammen for a possible read on matazar.
least suspicious for me atm.

deepblu2: not that active. first posts were pretty meager. kinda suspicious of him, so im gonna quote all posts after the short ones with no content and write my opinion.


very careful wording with his suspicion. not too much to say about that post


with this post it starts getting interesting. he posts directly after being accused by palmar. a lot of excuses early on, the lamest one being that he cannot be mafia as hes been secretly observing other peoples actions.
he retracts his suspicion and is 100% certain of glygas, pretty early on.
i have to admit im analyzing after reading visceras big post about matazar sacrificing glygas to get a leader role going. this would fit in perfectly if mafia decided between this and his post before to sacrifice glygas as he was playing too obvious.

next post is his vote on glygas, then a quick comment on the successful lynch of glygas.
last post until now is the following:
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states the obvious and puts the focus on the people not voting for glygas.

now if the biggest of em all conspiracies is true and glygas was in fact a sacrificial lamb, we can be pretty sure that we wont find any mafia on the offvoters list (and im not saying that just because im an offvoter :p )
anyways, my conclusion: pretty suspicious (even though he had the proper read on glygas), might be just a mafia newb though.

prplhz : so many posts.. claims hes completely new to mafia and posts really nice content afterwards. is suspicious of matazar in the beginning and focuses on him trying to get a leadership role without really accusing anyone, which is bad for the town. also is suspicious of me for my post about 1st post might not be posted in the first few hours of day1 ;(
he also had a nice read on viscera & giygas turning on each other, with at least one of them being scum. he first voted skrammen, but what made him the day 1 hero is his last minute switch to giygas which led to his lynch. this makes the whole giygas-sacrifice story either less believable, more lucky for mafia or he himself is mafia. O_O
after day1 is over he's warning of viscera, who is kind of a weird guy to analyze..
anyway, without any proper reasoning behind it, i still believe hes one of the good guys rather than being mafia.

Palmar: first posts contain no real value, restates the current situation at that time and wants inactives to post. also didnt like my post about 1st posts taking a while :D
then he takes a strong stance on matazar being inactive "innocent as new-born baby" - which he revokes later on.
skimming through the rest of his (huge amount of) posts, he has a pretty reasonable stance on giygas during all the time. first unsure of him being bad mafia or noob town, he wants to keep him even in case that he's mafia to let him make more mistakes. after the lynch he is quick to analyze that he might be indeed a sacrifice to gain trust and revokes his focus on offvoters. after a quick defense against viscera who goes apeshit on him for changing his mind there were no more posts.

im gonna take a break from analyzing here, this took longer then i expected and im far from done.. i will try to post my analysis of the other ppl in this daycycle. already fearing matazars and visceras analysis O_O so many posts..
anyway, keep in mind i read visceras day2 post of being suspicious of matazar just before and i only analyzed by reading all single posts, not the complete thread again and relied on my memory from following the thread earlier..

On May 17 2011 12:23 hiro protagonist wrote:
Ok, here are my thoughts so far,

the first two people I gonna talk about are the ones i have the most read on/talked the most o far:

VisceraEyes: He was the most active in the first few pages, with most of his post wanting simply for all active players to say hi. Also mentioning not to take suspicions of one another as a bad thing. I can agree with this line of logic, as it will foster a more friendly town, and get in on the scum hunting. His FoS of Mataza looks more like a call for discussion then an actual accusation. my worry is that he is almost TOO town, and is a likely prime hit for Mafia, unless of course he IS Mafia.

Mataza: considered the most suspicious as of right now, and with good reasoning. His first post was one of feinting a cop role. and Has been very Defensive initially when VisceraEye ask a question. Then he points the finger right back at VisceraEyes. after that he claims that he "just wanted to see how you would react". However he made a good post about how he wants to talk about what everyone else thinks, and his post are in the vein of scumhunting (when his not busy defending himself). not sure what to think of him tbh.

Next up GiygaS, nord, Palmar,:

These 3 have the most posts with the least amount of Analysis. most likely town wanting to hang low or wait and see before going into to much discussion. GiygaS has done the most in getting discussion going, expesialy around what VisceraEye and Mataza have been saying. not alot to go on.

prplhz: quite at first but then a solid post with good analysis.

Deepblue, Steff, Karshe: still need to here more from them. deepblue has gotten in pretty late with just a one liner. gonna watch to see if he is gonna just slide under the modkill, as there are still some inactives, and is laying low(as in acting scummy)

thats it for now.

On May 18 2011 09:08 hiro protagonist wrote:
@VisEyes

and while I was posting you say that
Jez, I was on board with you Vis, but that's just a lame attitude...

On May 18 2011 09:48 hiro protagonist wrote:
gonna stay with my line of logic, and vote skrammen. I cant believe more people are not on him given his VERY little content, and insta bandwagon vote.

Best case scenario: town votes GiygaS, and he flips scum. We got reason to trust one another and the hunt is in full swing.

worst case: GiygaS flips green, and we have lots of suspicions. Very good chance of Mafia breaking up trust and getting us to turn on one another.

good no mater what: voting Skrammen. we get ride of a terrible player, and we get a possible read on Mataza. I chose this one.

Eather way, Im happy with day one.

##Vote: Skrammen

On May 20 2011 09:26 VisceraEyes wrote:
@Blue

I think he said "I almost had you" which in itself was peculiar because he clearly wasn't a mastermind of any kind of plan.

On May 20 2011 09:51 Mataza wrote:
Prplhz is not doc, he is scum.

I can and I will explain every little detail about my plan once I am sure that we 100% have a cop/do not have a cop.


Also as far as voting is concerned:

We know Giygas is mafia. He was the first to vote Skrammen.
A short time later, but not immediately afterwards, prplhz follows.

Skrammen of course was a perfect safe lynch, chosen by mafia. Also consider this:


His voting on Skrammen was not his own choice, but apparently Purplehaze´s.

##vote prplhz


Only thing that could make me think he is town is a very good analysis or a cop claim.
Trust me on this, we didn´t need a blue role day 1, we don´t need a blue day 2.

On May 20 2011 10:02 Mataza wrote:


Why, it makes good sense. We got Giygas without any blue role. And if the maf really has a roleblocker, we could be all townies.
If a blue role would be so important that you couldn´t win without it, it wouldn´t be a possible setup.