• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 23:51
CEST 05:51
KST 12:51
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL21] Finals Preview: Two Legacies18Code S Season 2 (2026) - RO12 Preview2herO wins GSL Code S Season 1 (2026)5Code S Season 1 (2026) - RO4 & Finals Preview5[ASL21] Ro4 Preview: On Course12
Community News
Weekly Cups (May 11-17): Classic wins double0Code S Season 1 (2026) - RO8 Results2Weekly Cups (May 4-10): Clem, MaxPax, herO win1Maestros of The Game 2 announcement and schedule !18Weekly Cups (April 27-May 4): Clem takes triple0
StarCraft 2
General
herO wins GSL Code S Season 1 (2026) Code S Season 2 (2026) - RO12 Preview Weekly Cups (May 11-17): Classic wins double Code S Season 1 (2026) - RO4 & Finals Preview Team Liquid Map Contest #22 - The Finalists
Tourneys
Crank Gathers Season 4: BW vs SC2 Team League GSL Code S Season 2 (2026) GSL Code S Season 1 (2026) Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament Maestros of The Game 2 announcement and schedule !
Strategy
Custom Maps
[D]RTS in all its shapes and glory <3 [A] Nemrods 1/4 players
External Content
Mutation # 527 Hell Train The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 526 Rubber and Glue Mutation # 525 Wheel of Misfortune
Brood War
General
(Spoiler) ASL21 Winner's Interview 25 Years Since Brood War Patch 1.08 vespene.gg — BW replays in browser [ASL21] Finals Preview: Two Legacies UA StarCraft: Mawin (T) vs hanniGan (P) Showmatch
Tourneys
[ASL21] Grand Finals Escore Tournament StarCraft Season 2 [Megathread] Daily Proleagues Small VOD Thread 2.0
Strategy
Any training maps people recommend? Muta micro map competition [G] Hydra ZvZ: An Introduction Fighting Spirit mining rates
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Nintendo Switch Thread Dawn of War IV ZeroSpace Megathread Warcraft III: The Frozen Throne
Dota 2
The Story of Wings Gaming
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Vanilla Mini Mafia Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas TL Mafia Community Thread Five o'clock TL Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Trading/Investing Thread European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread YouTube Thread
Fan Clubs
The herO Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
[Manga] One Piece Anime Discussion Thread [Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread McBoner: A hockey love story TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 Formula 1 Discussion
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
streaming software Strange computer issues (software)
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Esports Organizations: Raisi…
TrAiDoS
Why RTS gamers make better f…
gosubay
ramps on octagon
StaticNine
Funny Nicknames
LUCKY_NOOB
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1232 users

Channel for Zvz practising group

Forum Index > Closed
Post a Reply
GTo7_Panda
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany68 Posts
May 02 2011 11:56 GMT
#1
Hello fellow Zergs,

Since I love ZvZ for its straight logic structure and consistency, I just had an idea that might just work:

A channel only for zvz, open for all skill levels. You can just come in when you want to get better at you zvz, watch customs against each other and discuss.

This Channel will be..
-----------
zvz
-----------
(Both on Eu and Na and all the other servers)

Simple to remember and easy to tip for fast joining.

Let´s see how this will work out.

Greets, Panda

Cya there!

Ps: I am on Eu.
enykie
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany64 Posts
May 02 2011 12:23 GMT
#2
nice idea ! i'll join later!

cheers
HollowYoshi
Profile Joined March 2011
United States36 Posts
May 02 2011 14:01 GMT
#3
I joined and no one was there... I'm on NA by the way, so I guess that's probably why.

I really like this idea, ZvZ is my worst matchup and I could definitely use some practice in it.
monitor
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States2409 Posts
May 02 2011 14:11 GMT
#4
Sounds cool. Even though I hate ZvZ, I admit I could use some practice
https://liquipedia.net/starcraft2/Monitor
GTo7_Panda
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany68 Posts
May 02 2011 16:06 GMT
#5
Just stay on the channel even if nobody is there;) just ladder or do funmaps or so, there will be the time somebody comes in
Eleaven
Profile Joined September 2010
772 Posts
May 02 2011 18:46 GMT
#6
"Since I love ZvZ for its straight logic structure and consistency,"


What?

I think we're playing different games lol. I despise ZvZ for its seemingly random non consistent nature.

If other people now think it has logic and consistency, maybe something big has changed in the last few weeks that i haven't learnt about.. deffo gonna turn up to this channel soon
Snickersnee
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States241 Posts
May 02 2011 19:00 GMT
#7
Neat idea! I will probably join it. :D
Great idea friend!
Had an idea that combines the intimate moment of delivering babies with Crazy Taxi last night. Can emotional arcade style gaming work?
GTo7_Panda
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany68 Posts
May 03 2011 09:50 GMT
#8
@ Eleaven: Read this guide: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=217696 it changed my view and my understanding of the matchup greatly. And when you think about it, there are some reasons why this matchup is more easy and understandable than the others:

1. Your opponement has the same units and opportunities you have.

2. Scouting is more easy than in ZvT and ZvP. Scouting against a Wall and good marine positioning is really hard, whereas you can easily scout the opponement Zerg´s techpath in the early game.

This are some of the reasons why i like this matchup and why it seems logic and consistent to me. You may see it the other way around, like I did for a long time. Atm I am Dia rank 3-4 and think this is the Mathup I understand at least. May change in Masters ofc, and i guess there is much cheese in the lower leagues. I won´t comment on this topic anymore, I just shared my opinion

Anyhow, I think it would be a great Idea to enlarge this concept of the channel: zvp for both Protoss and Zerg, PvT for both Terran and Protoss and so on... you got the idea;)

A mixed channel with conversations between both races would be a great thing, as it widens the mind for the matchup and shows, which difficulties the other side has.


Pls stay in the channel(s), the idea is so simple that it will spread;)

Cya there, Panda
Poopfeast
Profile Joined September 2010
160 Posts
May 03 2011 10:20 GMT
#9
Let me show you some consistency. 1 mom.
Stream http://www.teamliquid.net/video/streams/Poopfeast
ehti
Profile Joined January 2011
India7 Posts
May 03 2011 11:07 GMT
#10
Server: EU Server
TL ID: ehti
B.Net ID.IDENTIFIER: ehti
ProfileURL: http://eu.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/1652967/1/ehti/
Other: Zerg player looking for friends to play with & practice 1vs1, 2vs2, 3vs3, 4vs4, custom etc
Character Code: 625
CET timings after 4:30 pm onwards.
enykie
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany64 Posts
May 03 2011 13:06 GMT
#11
a good idea is, to enable the 'auto join private channels' function in the options menu
zende
Profile Joined February 2011
Sweden234 Posts
May 03 2011 13:27 GMT
#12
Makes me wish I played zerg. Think I'd love that matchup while I hate my own mirror matchup - TvT.

Great initative though, maybe we could create channels for every matchup? Or maybe all the mirrors since people seem to hate their own mirrors so much - having a fun and relaxed practice environment would maybe help out?
GTo7_Panda
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany68 Posts
May 03 2011 14:21 GMT
#13
@ enykie: Great finding!:D I will so use this;)

@ zende: Yep, same for all the other matchups would be great too:D

Since you can writte zvp or pvz, i would suggest the following channels to use:

zvz
zvt
zvp
pvt

It would be great if both races share one channel, so that there is more and better discussion and training games;)

shadRa
Profile Joined January 2011
Brazil7 Posts
May 03 2011 15:04 GMT
#14
That's a great idea. I'll definitely join the channel!
vol_
Profile Joined May 2010
Australia1608 Posts
May 03 2011 17:49 GMT
#15
Having channels for all matchups would be awesome! You can lose a game on ladder, pop into the channel and ask for some advice (or rage).
Jaedong gives me a deep resonance.
Snoz
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada6 Posts
May 03 2011 18:00 GMT
#16
I like this idea a lot. I have almost no trouble zvp and zvt but zvz is horrendous! I'll be in later for sure.
The snozberries taste like snozberries!
Saracen
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States5139 Posts
May 03 2011 20:37 GMT
#17
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=183961
Please leave the Strategy Forum for strategy discussions, not discussions about where you should go to have strategy discussions.
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
OSC
00:00
OSC Elite Rising Star #19
Liquipedia
Patches Events
19:30
Patches' Patch Clash #7
Liquipedia
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
RuFF_SC2 178
NeuroSwarm 152
StarCraft: Brood War
Zeus 433
Noble 17
Icarus 6
Moletrap 3
Dota 2
LuMiX1
League of Legends
JimRising 746
Counter-Strike
taco 617
C9.Mang0310
Super Smash Bros
hungrybox387
Other Games
tarik_tv7297
ViBE992
WinterStarcraft592
JuggernautJason166
Maynarde136
Livibee101
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick723
BasetradeTV143
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
[ Show 12 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• masondota2693
Other Games
• Scarra2870
Upcoming Events
Universe Titan Cup
7h 9m
Rogue vs Percival
Wardi Open
8h 9m
Monday Night Weeklies
12h 9m
Replay Cast
20h 9m
Kung Fu Cup
1d 7h
GSL
2 days
herO vs Classic
Cure vs Clem
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
2 days
Replay Cast
3 days
GSL
3 days
Maru vs SHIN
Zoun vs Rogue
WardiTV Spring Champion…
3 days
SKillous vs Strange
Lambo vs Strange
Ryung vs Strange
Lambo vs Ryung
Ryung vs SKillous
Lambo vs SKillous
[ Show More ]
Replay Cast
3 days
Maestros of the Game
4 days
Replay Cast
4 days
RSL Revival
5 days
TBD vs SHIN
TBD vs Rogue
IPSL
5 days
ZZZero vs WorsT
Julia vs eOnzErG
Replay Cast
5 days
RSL Revival
6 days
IPSL
6 days
Dragon vs Artosis
dxtr13 vs Hawk
BSL
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

ASL Season 21
2026 GSL S1
Heroes Pulsing #1

Ongoing

2026 KK StarCraft Pro League
BSL Season 22
IPSL Spring 2026
KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 2
KK 2v2 League Season 1
YSL S3
Acropolis #4
CSCL: Masked Kings S4
SCTL 2026 Spring
WardiTV Spring 2026
2026 GSL S2
RSL Revival: Season 5
CS Asia Championships 2026
Asian Champions League 2026
IEM Atlanta 2026
PGL Astana 2026
BLAST Rivals Spring 2026
IEM Rio 2026
PGL Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 1
BLAST Open Spring 2026
ESL Pro League S23 Finals

Upcoming

Escore Tournament S2: King of Kings
BSL 22 Non-Korean Championship
CSLAN 4
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
HSC XXIX
uThermal 2v2 2026 Main Event
Maestros of the Game 2
Bounty Cup 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer Qual
Stake Ranked Episode 3
XSE Pro League 2026
IEM Cologne Major 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 2
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.