EPTTL Mafia XXXIX
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On May 03 2011 11:04 VarpuliS wrote: I'm depressed because no matter how much I spam I still have to wait for at least another month before I get my Zealot. I'm just hoping that it changes at three months, and not 6. Congrats on the (almost) 1000 posts, Aidnai. If you think that's depressing you should try still being a zealot after 7 years. | ||
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The chaoser/redtooth long posts- I don't really have an opinion on whether the posts are scummy or not but a big part of why kavdragon was lynched last game for similar posts was because those were pretty much all he posted. He posted very little actual analysis and the analysis he did post wasn't very good. So as long as red/chaoser post some good analysis I don't think there is a problem with them trying to help out the newer players. AO/Irish/Karumi- I don't find AO that suspicious other than him saying chaoser was suspicious without giving any reasoning. Irish/karumi seem by far the most suspicious to me. Irish saying karumi had made a lot of great posts is either him defending a teammate or he hadn't actually read anything karumi had written. Almost every post of karumi's has had almost no content and has been confusing. I don't know why a townie trying to win would play like him, other than to try and get reactions out of people. But if that's the case I would like to see some more reasonable posts from him. His one analysis post was better but didn't actually have much analysis in it. Cthsazsa- I think the scum slip jackal is going on about is way overblown. It seems a lot more likely to just be a mistake than his attempt to run some mafia agenda of protecting lurkers, especially when hes being pretty active himself. I would be more suspicious of beneather who didn't post at all then instantly jumped on the supposed scum slip. Anyway I guess if I had to vote right now I would vote karumi but I will wait for more information to officially decide. | ||
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On May 05 2011 09:50 VarpuliS wrote: Chaoser has been very pro-town in his posting across the board. Being super-vocal day 1 is a sure way to get killed night one. It's the players who haven't posted any real content that we have to worry about. I agree with varpulis here. And I would add I think it would be a pretty huge mistake to vote for chaoser on day1, unless we had some really damning evidence. He was one of the best players in the last TL mafia. It would be too big of a risk to potentially lose one of our best players unless we were very sure. | ||
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Kurumi- I disagree with most of your analysis of sandroba. Your main points against him seem to be you criticizing his asking people questions saying hes trying to bandwagon their analysis. But really its a good idea to ask people questions and have them make stands so you have posts which you can analyze yourself. I don't believe your story about trying to attract attention to yourself at all really. It just doesn't make any logical sense. You complain about people focusing on you instead of the vets who aren't posting. But of course people are not focusing on the lurkers after you drew so much attention to yourself. And you said you wanted to draw mafia out by having people vote for you on day2 right? So I don't really get why you said you made mistakes, it seems to me if this was really your goal then you just succeeded a day early. It just feels to me like you made this plan up to try and save yourself. So I am going to vote for kurumi, but if irish doesn't post before the deadline defending himself I would probably be ok with switching to him. I would rather not vote for red just yet because he is a vet and I am a little gun shy to lose potential assets to the town early on when our information is still limited. Conversion- The only thing I know for him is he played exactly like this (hardcore lurking) last game and he was town. | ||
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I want you to look at this from my viewpoint for a second. On one hand I see kurumi who is obviously spamming and trolling with 90% of his posts. Who then comes up this ridiculous explanation that all his posting was a plan (I still think this was a lie, I think he just posted terribly at the start and then made up something to try and save himself). Then on the other side the absolute only argument defending him is you saying hes so bad he can't be mafia. Which in my limited experience isn't always going to be the case. Along with this after you defended irish/kurumi you don't make any argument for who people should lynch. You say killer is somewhat scummy but make no argument for him. You say chaoser is the most scummy but then claim you don't have time to make a case to get him lynched. So really with the information that I have who do you expect me to vote for? You accuse the town of sheeping onto kurumi, well maybe if you had made a case for someone else to be lynched you could have convinced the town to switch their votes. And I think your rules are a pretty bad idea. In an ideal world the rules sound like a great idea. But I think when you post this long 10 point list of rules and at the end you say if you don't follow these I am going to assume you are scum, the only thing you are going to do is discourage people from analyzing. If people have to go and follow 100 rules before they can post their thoughts most of them just won't bother. It's going to make it easier for scum to lurk, since less people will be actively contributing. | ||
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If I were going to vote now I would vote for Cthsazsa. I am not 100% sold on him being scum but out of the leading candidates I think he looks the worst. Mainly for his first couple of posts where he was staying extremely neutral and then his reaction to jackals tunneling. I am not completely sold on amber being mafia yet. The long post where he talked about his previous games I thought was pretty shady but I thought his reasons for voting for kurumi were fine. So I guess the main points against him are the long post and just his overall lack of content along with possibly aidnai fosing him. I will wait for him to post more before the end of the day before I make a judgment on him. And so its clear GGQ is the only one claiming to have been role blocked last night right? | ||
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Between amber and cthsazsa I am still pretty torn. But I don't believe it makes any sense for amber to be blue after his long post drawing attention to himself and his great scum hunting abilities. And cthsazsa's recent posts have me leaning a bit more towards him just being new town. So I am going to vote for amber tonight. But really I would like to see one lynched and the other vig hit. Both are pretty suspicious and have a good chance at being mafia and their deaths would give us the most information on peoples alignments. | ||
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Redtooth how can you talk about creating a pro town environment then make such an obviously anti town bet? Sandroba your bet is also anti town and stupid. Why are these bets being discussed at all when this should be common sense. | ||
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On May 09 2011 08:02 chaoser wrote: Varpulis, for the bet to be pro-mafia, mafia would have had to be tunneling amber since day 1 just to get redtooth to be either shot or support mafia lynches. Think about that. You're saying that Amber is being bussed just to target redtooth. No the bet is pro mafia because mafia only accepts the bet when it knows its going to win. Town can never win the bet against mafia since they have complete information. | ||
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On May 09 2011 11:29 DropBear wrote: If Amber is cleared, we kill chaoser, sandroba and orgolove. If Amber is red, chaoser is cleared, sandroba is cleared, redtooth probably is as well, maybe even Cthasza. If amber is red it in no way clears redtooth. He was one of the main driving forces behind the lynch of cthasza which could very easily have been to take heat of amber. Along with he defended amber all day and he tried to build a case where if cthasza flips red then it would link chaoser. So I think its quite the opposite. | ||
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I know every game is balanced differently but from the ones I have looked at most of them have balanced mafia/town teams, in terms of vets/new players. So with amber/irish gone I would guess they have 1-2 vets and 2-3 new players remaining. Along with that its a big deal that amber wasn't the gf. I think its pretty unlikely they gave gf to a new player with amber in the game. Which makes it even more likely that between red/kita/GGQ/jonn one of them is gf. For this reason I would probably not dt check one of them and instead dt check the newer players you suspect, eternal or sinani. | ||
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