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On May 06 2011 04:28 orgolove wrote: Oh wow. I didn't even realize it was chaoser himself that made the spreadsheet. Ugh. Hmm.... That's why You're voting on me? Because I did not make a spreadsheet? I will remember that in the next game,I will make a LOT of them,You know,just to be safe.
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On May 06 2011 04:34 Kurumi wrote:Show nested quote +On May 06 2011 04:28 orgolove wrote: Oh wow. I didn't even realize it was chaoser himself that made the spreadsheet. Ugh. Hmm.... That's why You're voting on me? Because I did not make a spreadsheet? I will remember that in the next game,I will make a LOT of them,You know,just to be safe. You're misinterpreting his post. He voted chaoser based on the spreadsheet, but then questioned himself when he thought that chaoser himself made the spreadsheet. At least, that's my take on it.
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A minute later he changes his vote though,on me.
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On May 06 2011 04:30 kitaman27 wrote:Redtooth He calls chaoser out for being too safe, yet rather than calling anyone out as scum, he posts a town list. It seems as if he doesn't want to upset anyone so early in the game. Show nested quote +On May 05 2011 02:20 kitaman27 wrote:On May 04 2011 21:37 redtooth wrote: @orgolove - The first vote was a joke between me and HeavonEarth (who I know very well from LoL days) where I wasn't in the game at all and just decided to poke at him anyways. On October 24 2010 18:01 redtooth wrote: ##vote Kitaman27 I assure everyone, there was no inside joke taking place when this vote was cast. The fact that you were smurfing in a previous game doesn't bother me, but what interests me is why would you lie about it. I called him out earlier on a lie, not because I care that he was smurfing, but to see how he responds and he completely ignores it. The way he disappears after stirring the pot makes him look shifty, but he claims to have real life obligations, which makes it tough to tell if he is lurking or not. I haven't forgotten about redtooth's dodge of the proof that he was lying either. I'm putting in my vote for him unless he posts an explanation.
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On May 06 2011 04:28 orgolove wrote: Oh wow. I didn't even realize it was chaoser himself that made the spreadsheet. Ugh. Hmm....
For the record, it was me who made the spreadsheet. I was unable to link the pictures properly so chaoser later posted the images based on my links. Unfortunately, I did not save the spreadsheet after making the images from them.
Also, the fact that someone did an analysis does not mean he/she is not scum. Now, if that analysis turns up correct on a flip might suggest that he/she has town/mafia-creds. But, at this point, there is no such evidence for anyone.
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It should be easy to recreate the spreadsheet, and add new FoS, Votes and defences.
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Redtooth- I think a lot of your arguments against chaoser are stretching it a bit. And your main argument defending kurumi and irish is they are so bad they couldn't possibly be mafia. You even ask when was the last time someone this obvious ended up being mafia. The answer to that is in the previous game. As GGQ mentioned Serjei was blatantly trolling with every one of his posts and he ended up being mafia. Obviously that doesn't prove that kurumi is mafia but you can't use that argument as your main defense for them.
Kurumi- I disagree with most of your analysis of sandroba. Your main points against him seem to be you criticizing his asking people questions saying hes trying to bandwagon their analysis. But really its a good idea to ask people questions and have them make stands so you have posts which you can analyze yourself.
I don't believe your story about trying to attract attention to yourself at all really. It just doesn't make any logical sense. You complain about people focusing on you instead of the vets who aren't posting. But of course people are not focusing on the lurkers after you drew so much attention to yourself. And you said you wanted to draw mafia out by having people vote for you on day2 right? So I don't really get why you said you made mistakes, it seems to me if this was really your goal then you just succeeded a day early.
It just feels to me like you made this plan up to try and save yourself.
So I am going to vote for kurumi, but if irish doesn't post before the deadline defending himself I would probably be ok with switching to him. I would rather not vote for red just yet because he is a vet and I am a little gun shy to lose potential assets to the town early on when our information is still limited.
Conversion- The only thing I know for him is he played exactly like this (hardcore lurking) last game and he was town.
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You know what, vote for me. I honestly can't handle so many posts and I don't have time to write something, I know I'm not contributing but I honestly thought I'd have the time to actually contribute to this but I don't. Maybe if there won't be another page of posts by the time I'm done writing this I'd be able to feel like there isn't such a huge amount of information coming in, but if you want me off I honestly don't mind right now.
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On May 06 2011 05:15 Rising_Phoenix wrote: You know what, vote for me. I honestly can't handle so many posts and I don't have time to write something, I know I'm not contributing but I honestly thought I'd have the time to actually contribute to this but I don't. Maybe if there won't be another page of posts by the time I'm done writing this I'd be able to feel like there isn't such a huge amount of information coming in, but if you want me off I honestly don't mind right now.
huh? Who are you even responding to?
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Ok I'm catching up atm. Chaoser I'll address you soon enough. But for now, I have no idea wtf Kurumi is doing and will have to re-evaluate.
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On May 06 2011 05:18 redtooth wrote: Ok I'm catching up atm. Chaoser I'll address you soon enough. But for now, I have no idea wtf Kurumi is doing and will have to re-evaluate. Trying to save myself with a last stand,that's good idea to cut any relations with me because You have no idea who I really am,I don't think You'll suffer though. Just please don't focus only on me,don't lynch me throwing entire energy out on me,please.
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On May 06 2011 04:30 kitaman27 wrote:He calls chaoser out for being too safe, yet rather than calling anyone out as scum, he posts a town list. It seems as if he doesn't want to upset anyone so early in the game. Show nested quote +On May 05 2011 02:20 kitaman27 wrote:On May 04 2011 21:37 redtooth wrote: @orgolove - The first vote was a joke between me and HeavonEarth (who I know very well from LoL days) where I wasn't in the game at all and just decided to poke at him anyways. On October 24 2010 18:01 redtooth wrote: ##vote Kitaman27 I assure everyone, there was no inside joke taking place when this vote was cast. The fact that you were smurfing in a previous game doesn't bother me, but what interests me is why would you lie about it. I called him out earlier on a lie, not because I care that he was smurfing, but to see how he responds and he completely ignores it. The way he disappears after stirring the pot makes him look shifty, but he claims to have real life obligations, which makes it tough to tell if he is lurking or not. Zzzz. I didn't upset anybody? Errr I upset >half the goddamn town already, not to mention Chaoser personally. Also, please understand the value of finding town. It really isn't as sexy as finding scum but just as valuable. If you're prosecuting for the sake of prosecuting, gtfo. You should be prosecuting for the sake of finding scum and eliminating the options seems pretty valuable to me. Also, you make no sense. Why would I be scared of pissing off Kurumi and Irish? It would make me more town-looking if anything.
Secondly, why does my smurf matter to you? I mean you're really pushing for it to get revealed but I really don't get why. Is it a lynch-all-liars thing? Maybe I'm just embarrassed about how bad I played. Maybe I got inactivity lynched. Who knows but I mean the only reason you would look for it is to see my meta but you have plenty of that already. Please explain to me the following: What does lying about another game have to do with my role in this game?
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On May 06 2011 05:33 redtooth wrote:Show nested quote +On May 06 2011 04:30 kitaman27 wrote:He calls chaoser out for being too safe, yet rather than calling anyone out as scum, he posts a town list. It seems as if he doesn't want to upset anyone so early in the game. On May 05 2011 02:20 kitaman27 wrote:On May 04 2011 21:37 redtooth wrote: @orgolove - The first vote was a joke between me and HeavonEarth (who I know very well from LoL days) where I wasn't in the game at all and just decided to poke at him anyways. On October 24 2010 18:01 redtooth wrote: ##vote Kitaman27 I assure everyone, there was no inside joke taking place when this vote was cast. The fact that you were smurfing in a previous game doesn't bother me, but what interests me is why would you lie about it. I called him out earlier on a lie, not because I care that he was smurfing, but to see how he responds and he completely ignores it. The way he disappears after stirring the pot makes him look shifty, but he claims to have real life obligations, which makes it tough to tell if he is lurking or not. Zzzz. I didn't upset anybody? Errr I upset >half the goddamn town already, not to mention Chaoser personally. Also, please understand the value of finding town. It really isn't as sexy as finding scum but just as valuable. If you're prosecuting for the sake of prosecuting, gtfo. You should be prosecuting for the sake of finding scum and eliminating the options seems pretty valuable to me. Also, you make no sense. Why would I be scared of pissing off Kurumi and Irish? It would make me more town-looking if anything. Secondly, why does my smurf matter to you? I mean you're really pushing for it to get revealed but I really don't get why. Is it a lynch-all-liars thing? Maybe I'm just embarrassed about how bad I played. Maybe I got inactivity lynched. Who knows but I mean the only reason you would look for it is to see my meta but you have plenty of that already. Please explain to me the following: What does lying about another game have to do with my role in this game? Wait a second, redtooth, I thought you considered Kurumi and Irish to be noobtown before, did you change your mind?
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On May 06 2011 04:29 aidnai wrote:Show nested quote +On May 06 2011 03:08 Forumite wrote: For trying too hard to defend Irish.
##Unote: Kurumi ##Vote: redtooth
(I´m posting in the other thread too, just wanted to be polite and inform people of the voting here too, since it´s easier to see updates in the main thread) Imo, it's too early to lynch a vet. Your point is absolutely valid however, and I would like discussion of this to continue tomorrow, and if we are able to flip irish today it will be that much more meaningful. Please consider changing your vote. Never too early, whether its me or Chaoser.
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On May 06 2011 05:40 Forumite wrote:Show nested quote +On May 06 2011 05:33 redtooth wrote:On May 06 2011 04:30 kitaman27 wrote:He calls chaoser out for being too safe, yet rather than calling anyone out as scum, he posts a town list. It seems as if he doesn't want to upset anyone so early in the game. On May 05 2011 02:20 kitaman27 wrote:On May 04 2011 21:37 redtooth wrote: @orgolove - The first vote was a joke between me and HeavonEarth (who I know very well from LoL days) where I wasn't in the game at all and just decided to poke at him anyways. On October 24 2010 18:01 redtooth wrote: ##vote Kitaman27 I assure everyone, there was no inside joke taking place when this vote was cast. The fact that you were smurfing in a previous game doesn't bother me, but what interests me is why would you lie about it. I called him out earlier on a lie, not because I care that he was smurfing, but to see how he responds and he completely ignores it. The way he disappears after stirring the pot makes him look shifty, but he claims to have real life obligations, which makes it tough to tell if he is lurking or not. Zzzz. I didn't upset anybody? Errr I upset >half the goddamn town already, not to mention Chaoser personally. Also, please understand the value of finding town. It really isn't as sexy as finding scum but just as valuable. If you're prosecuting for the sake of prosecuting, gtfo. You should be prosecuting for the sake of finding scum and eliminating the options seems pretty valuable to me. Also, you make no sense. Why would I be scared of pissing off Kurumi and Irish? It would make me more town-looking if anything. Secondly, why does my smurf matter to you? I mean you're really pushing for it to get revealed but I really don't get why. Is it a lynch-all-liars thing? Maybe I'm just embarrassed about how bad I played. Maybe I got inactivity lynched. Who knows but I mean the only reason you would look for it is to see my meta but you have plenty of that already. Please explain to me the following: What does lying about another game have to do with my role in this game? Wait a second, redtooth, I thought you considered Kurumi and Irish to be noobtown before, did you change your mind? Irish I still think is town. Kurumi, I'll have to check again. Still leaning towards town though. Actually, where the hell did you even get that line of thought from my previous post?
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wtf is going on guys i very konfuzed..
Kurumi is bad holy shit
Lets point at someone else.
On May 06 2011 05:40 redtooth wrote:Show nested quote +On May 06 2011 04:29 aidnai wrote:On May 06 2011 03:08 Forumite wrote: For trying too hard to defend Irish.
##Unote: Kurumi ##Vote: redtooth
(I´m posting in the other thread too, just wanted to be polite and inform people of the voting here too, since it´s easier to see updates in the main thread) Imo, it's too early to lynch a vet. Your point is absolutely valid however, and I would like discussion of this to continue tomorrow, and if we are able to flip irish today it will be that much more meaningful. Please consider changing your vote. Never too early, whether its me or Chaoser. QFT
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Red I understand it can be important to find townies but we have to lynch someone within the next few hours. So who are you going to vote for and why?
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On May 06 2011 05:41 redtooth wrote:Show nested quote +On May 06 2011 05:40 Forumite wrote:On May 06 2011 05:33 redtooth wrote:On May 06 2011 04:30 kitaman27 wrote:He calls chaoser out for being too safe, yet rather than calling anyone out as scum, he posts a town list. It seems as if he doesn't want to upset anyone so early in the game. On May 05 2011 02:20 kitaman27 wrote:On May 04 2011 21:37 redtooth wrote: @orgolove - The first vote was a joke between me and HeavonEarth (who I know very well from LoL days) where I wasn't in the game at all and just decided to poke at him anyways. On October 24 2010 18:01 redtooth wrote: ##vote Kitaman27 I assure everyone, there was no inside joke taking place when this vote was cast. The fact that you were smurfing in a previous game doesn't bother me, but what interests me is why would you lie about it. I called him out earlier on a lie, not because I care that he was smurfing, but to see how he responds and he completely ignores it. The way he disappears after stirring the pot makes him look shifty, but he claims to have real life obligations, which makes it tough to tell if he is lurking or not. Zzzz. I didn't upset anybody? Errr I upset >half the goddamn town already, not to mention Chaoser personally. Also, please understand the value of finding town. It really isn't as sexy as finding scum but just as valuable. If you're prosecuting for the sake of prosecuting, gtfo. You should be prosecuting for the sake of finding scum and eliminating the options seems pretty valuable to me. Also, you make no sense. Why would I be scared of pissing off Kurumi and Irish? It would make me more town-looking if anything. Secondly, why does my smurf matter to you? I mean you're really pushing for it to get revealed but I really don't get why. Is it a lynch-all-liars thing? Maybe I'm just embarrassed about how bad I played. Maybe I got inactivity lynched. Who knows but I mean the only reason you would look for it is to see my meta but you have plenty of that already. Please explain to me the following: What does lying about another game have to do with my role in this game? Wait a second, redtooth, I thought you considered Kurumi and Irish to be noobtown before, did you change your mind? Irish I still think is town. Kurumi, I'll have to check again. Still leaning towards town though. Actually, where the hell did you even get that line of thought from my previous post? You said you were checking Kurumi, and I assumed pissing off Kurumi and Irish refered to calling them out on their scummy behavior.
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On May 06 2011 05:48 Kenpachi wrote:wtf is going on guys i very konfuzed.. Kurumi is bad holy shit Lets point at someone else. Show nested quote +On May 06 2011 05:40 redtooth wrote:On May 06 2011 04:29 aidnai wrote:On May 06 2011 03:08 Forumite wrote: For trying too hard to defend Irish.
##Unote: Kurumi ##Vote: redtooth
(I´m posting in the other thread too, just wanted to be polite and inform people of the voting here too, since it´s easier to see updates in the main thread) Imo, it's too early to lynch a vet. Your point is absolutely valid however, and I would like discussion of this to continue tomorrow, and if we are able to flip irish today it will be that much more meaningful. Please consider changing your vote. Never too early, whether its me or Chaoser. QFT
There is room for differences of opinion, but I would 100% rather lynch someone useless (kenpachi, takuna, lyter, etc) day 1 as opposed to a vet.
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Just got back from school, damn this thread is moving fast. Kurumi's posting hasn't improved, It seems. What sort of townie plan is based upon being scummy and nonsensical to get the town talking and then saying "Guys, i'm not scum, it was all part of the plan?"
My vote's staying on him. Someone a couple pages back corrected me about my "lynching for information theory." I think it was Aidnai. Thank you, I'll keep that in mind for the future.On May 06 2011 05:15 Rising_Phoenix wrote: You know what, vote for me. I honestly can't handle so many posts and I don't have time to write something, I know I'm not contributing but I honestly thought I'd have the time to actually contribute to this but I don't. Maybe if there won't be another page of posts by the time I'm done writing this I'd be able to feel like there isn't such a huge amount of information coming in, but if you want me off I honestly don't mind right now. This looks to me like a townie getting bored. I wouldn't be surprised if he gets himself modkilled or replaced.
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