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GGQ
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Canada2653 Posts
April 27 2011 21:16 GMT
#40
/in as replacement for now
GGQ
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Canada2653 Posts
May 01 2011 04:44 GMT
#106
alright /in
GGQ
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Canada2653 Posts
May 05 2011 01:00 GMT
#515
Hi, I'm back on page 17 or so, been taking quite a long time to get catch up since I got home today, but I'll have something to say before the night's over.
GGQ
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Canada2653 Posts
May 05 2011 03:47 GMT
#590
Kurumi's style of willfully posting nonsense reminds me of only one other player I've ever seen; serejai from last game. I shot serejai and he flipped mafia. I suggest lynching Kurumi.
GGQ
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Canada2653 Posts
May 05 2011 03:48 GMT
#591
On May 05 2011 12:47 KillerSOS wrote:
As much as I hate to join on the bandwagon, a vote for Cthsazsa seems to be a reasonable decision.


Judging from your posts, you don't seem to hate joining bandwagons at all.
GGQ
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Canada2653 Posts
May 05 2011 04:13 GMT
#603
On May 05 2011 13:08 Cthsazsa wrote:
I'm still confused as to how I'm scum.


This is only making it worse. You've addressed the accusations. If there was no weight behind them, then just move on until they accuse you with something new. Try to scumhunt instead of defending yourself. Only scum worry about defending themselves. Town worry about finding scum.
GGQ
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Canada2653 Posts
May 05 2011 19:04 GMT
#685
On May 06 2011 03:34 Kurumi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 05 2011 12:47 GGQ wrote:
Kurumi's style of willfully posting nonsense reminds me of only one other player I've ever seen; serejai from last game. I shot serejai and he flipped mafia. I suggest lynching Kurumi.


I wonder why he is bringing serajai's play onto this Mafia. I did not read it and I would not think that my tactic is good anymore after doing that. There's no smurfs,right? So I couldn't flip Serejai's Smurf.


I'm not saying you are Serejai's smurf -_-

I'm saying you were using the same scum strategy; post nonsense and act like you have no idea what's going on so people will just ignore you. It worked for Serejai last game; he avoided a lynch until I shot him (I was a vigilante). I'm not a vigilante this game, so my only way to kill you was to vote for you.

Now it seems like after you went afk for a while, you've come back with a new strategy to explain your previous bad posting as some kind of gambit. But your gambit was terrible. Act scummy and accuse the people who vote for you? That's ridiculous, of course people are going to vote for you if you act scummy. That tells us nothing. So you are either town trying to act like scum for really bad reasons, or you are scum using some last ditch defense to avoid a lynch. I prefer to think that you're scum.

I'm keeping my vote on Kurumi for now, but I'd also support a lynch on redtooth. He is defending Kurumi and Irish, the two most likely to get lynched today. This strikes me as scum play because a townie would be trying to get scum lynched, not trying to defend both people who are up for lynching. It's likely that all three are mafia, or perhaps that redtooth is mafia and the other two are town so he'll get town cred when either of them flips. Add in that he also is trying to discredit one of the stronger voices in this game with a whole bunch of WIFOM, and I see a pretty strong case against him.
GGQ
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Canada2653 Posts
May 05 2011 19:08 GMT
#686
On May 06 2011 00:03 DropBear wrote:
On Lyter

Lyter has 3 posts in the thread since the game began properly, 5 overall.

Show nested quote +
On May 04 2011 23:54 Lyter wrote:
On May 04 2011 16:35 redtooth wrote:

To start off, let's have everybody answer the following question:
What is your mafia experience/backround like?
This can be experience in IRL mafia, approximate # of TL mafia games played, experience playing on mafiascum, "I just arrived from Noobtown", etc. Thanks!


This is my first game of Mafia on a forum, I've played quite a lot of the Mafia custom on SC2 so I know how it works but I'd consider myself a newbie in a big forum game like this.


That's cool, fair enough.

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On May 05 2011 17:29 Lyter wrote:
I'm not really buying all these random accusations flying around on day 1, maybe its just me, but I'd much rather see a night through so we actually have something to work with, at this point it is just pure guesswork imo.


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On May 05 2011 18:20 Lyter wrote:
On May 05 2011 18:02 Forumite wrote:
It might be guesswork but we still get information out of it, information that will be important once the first lynch flips. Also we don´t have a "no lynch" option, someone HAS to die during day 1.


Ah didn't realise someone had to die, time to do some thinking


Um, lol? This is either really nooby or just plain trying to hide. Take a stance!

Show nested quote +
On May 05 2011 22:24 Lyter wrote:
##Vote: Irish_Punk13


You obviously did your thinking. You have no other posts after your thinking post though. Please explain? I am not accusing you just yet but I'd like to hear your reasoning.


This post rings some bells in my head. There was no need for a PbP analysis here, you just needed to tell Lyter to post more and explain his vote. Doing a PbP in this instance feels like an attempt to gain townie cred for nothing.
GGQ
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Canada2653 Posts
May 06 2011 01:38 GMT
#780
On May 06 2011 07:49 aidnai wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 05 2011 12:01 Cthsazsa wrote:
Hmm, this is my rather short analysis on Conversion, since he won't make one of his own.


On May 04 2011 22:11 Conversion wrote:
I played in two games, BrownBear's mafia game (if you could even call that playing) where I was town and DocH's newbie mafia where I was mafia. Still pretty bad at this game.

To be honest I really don't have any opinions on anyone atm. I still think there's too many lurkers. The only playstyle I'm somewhat familiar with is Phoenix's since we were scumbuddies in newbie mafia, but he's not posting. Come out, phoenix!



Too many lurkers? That's funny, because you've only posted three times since the game started. You refuse to form, create, and state your own analysis. Instead, you're lurking in the shadows watching everyone quarl. Kind of hypocritical, is it not?


On May 05 2011 11:15 Conversion wrote:
jeez jackal and the chtzihfia whatever dude bloated the page count up.

look jackal tunnels people. stop bitching about him tunneling if you don't know his playstyle. it makes you seem really scummy when you spam up the thread with silly ego arguments.



And you know Jackal's playstyle? Because in your last post you claim to only be somewhat familiar with Pheonix's. You also say you're still bad at this game. So you must be a newbie, no? If you've played 2 games and you're still a noob, how do you expect me to know how Jackal's playstyle is if this is the first time I've played mafia?

And why are you so quick to come to his defense?


This was a pretty good post cthsazsa, you should do more like this.

I'd like to hear more opinions on cthsazsa from kita and chaoser.

So far, I agree with jackal's original reasons for pressuring, but i kind of have a null read on cthsazsa's response. The fact that he's done very little in the thread other than one-liner spam defense + a brief spat with conversion is a big strike against. But I do like his post on conversion...


I'll just state this right now, I will be very surprised if kurumi does in fact flip red, and I wish sheeping townies would move their votes. There is no reason for a scum to attract attention the way that kurumi has been doing.

GGQ's point about serejai is moot. There are key differences between these cases -- serejai was a hardcore lurker, kurumi is quite active; serejai was (and is) a big troll and is also demonstrably quite clever as seen by his posts elsewhere on the site, kurumi that I know of has no history on this site to make a similar conclusion; kurumi has been interacting with the thread, addressing current issues etc, serejai only did this on perhaps one occasion. There is also the language issue that makes kurumi's posts seem stranger than they actually are.

And yes kurumi has made some troll posts, but that can be explained by frustration. Serejai made troll posts just because.


Kurumi only started interacting with the thread and being active once we called him out on trolling and posting nonsense, and votes started piling up on him. That never happened with serejai, so we don't know how different they were. Serejai didn't make troll posts 'just because', he made them to try to disguise his alignment and make people ignore him. It worked for him, he was never a serious lynch target. I wouldn't be surprised at another scum trying the same thing. The fact is that townies don't have a real reason to troll town. I fully expect kurumi to flip red, but if he's green I'd take a look at redtooth as I explained in my previous post.

Also, to a large number of people in the mafia forum: the word 'weary' is not the same as the word 'wary'. To be 'weary' means you are tired or exhausted. To be 'wary' means you are cautious or on your guard. Thank you.
GGQ
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Canada2653 Posts
May 07 2011 05:06 GMT
#930
It's late and I don't have time to catch up on the thread right now, but I was roleblocked last night.

My FoS is still on redtooth for now, I'm not sure if his big rules thing makes him seem more innocent or not, I'll have to go over it more carefully tomorrow evening.
GGQ
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Canada2653 Posts
May 08 2011 01:10 GMT
#1017
On May 08 2011 09:11 orgolove wrote:
I really think redtooth either needs to be checked by a dt or be lynched asap. He's been acting plenty scummy enough, and his kills will give us plenty of information both on Amber and others involved in this dispute.


Dont lynch for information, it just leads to endless wifom. If we lynch redtooth it's because we think he's scum and that's all. His day 1 posts gave me a scum read, his actions since then haven't saved him in my eyes, but haven't made him more guilty either. I'm willing to give him some more time. He posts a lot, anyways, so if he's mafia he'll give himself up.

Cthazsa seems to be a lot quieter now than he was on the first day, and I can't explain why. He responded with lots of posts to jackal's pressure, but now he's gone afk because of the pressure today? Maybe just because he's now a viable lynch target? His actions seems scummy enough, but I never got that vibe from his posts. I'd like to see an analysis by someone I trust more than redtooth showing him as scum.

Amber seems the scummiest to me from his posts so far, but there just aren't that many of them. Amber, if you were a dayvig and had to use your power to avoid a lynch, who would you shoot?
GGQ
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Canada2653 Posts
May 08 2011 02:38 GMT
#1022
On May 08 2011 11:36 kitaman27 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 08 2011 11:31 elmizzt wrote:
On May 08 2011 03:15 ilovejonn wrote:
I think people need to think more about their votes. Sure you guys suspect redtooth, but like he said, is he really your BEST lynch for the day? Remember our most important KP comes from our votes. If you do not entirely or at least have a very high probability of thinking he is scum, I'd suggest reconsidering your vote to someone who you think has a higher chance than redtooth being scum.

Today however, my vote is going on Beneather based on 2 quotes.

On May 03 2011 06:44 Beneather wrote:
Really looking forward to playing this game :D lol. Going to be extremely active (:


On May 05 2011 08:19 Beneather wrote:
On May 05 2011 08:13 Jackal58 wrote:
On May 05 2011 07:13 Cthsazsa wrote:
Why would we vote off inactives? We should leave them be. If they are mafia, well they aren't that much of a threat to us since they're not participating. On the other hand, if they're a townie then that'll just put a crutch in us. We'll lose a townie, PLUS we'd have wasted our votes.

People insisting that we vote off inactives just seems suspicious to me.

Scum aren't a threat????
I know where my vote is going.


Mafia slip :o Even if they do not participate in the discussion they still kill two of us. If they're inactive that means that they're lurking and don't want to get in to arguments to put suspicion on them so they do not get lynched. Pressuring inactives will make them active and find out if they're actually scum.


The dude was seriously pumped before the game and even said he'd be extremely active. Once he got his role he became a total lurker. As pointed out by someone else, most of his posts talks about lurkers and inactives yet he does not consider himself being one! Extremely suspicious to me. Seems to me he does not know what to do after getting the scum role and just pretends to be away.

On the second quote, notice how Cthsazsa raised a lot of suspicions as being scum. If we look at it this way, Beneather and Cthsazsa being on the same scum team, Beneather calling Cthsazsa on the mafia slip was like a little reminder from a person on your team. "Hey you slipped better watch what you say next time!" And then who does he decide to vote on at the end of the day? Kurumi! The easiest wagon to go on. If he thought Cthsazsa was scum, why didn't he decide to vote him?

##Vote: Beneather

This is the only hard evidence I've seen so far. I'm voting beneather for now unless he says something to change my mind.


Is this going to be your only post of the day cycle? You're doing to good job blending in...


And all you're doing is vaguely questioning people. Post something solid.
GGQ
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Canada2653 Posts
May 09 2011 00:37 GMT
#1236
On May 09 2011 09:15 sandroba wrote:
They are both scum. If they weren't they would have already changed their vote.


This doesn't make any sense, seeing as voting for each other would just give them both +1 vote and they'd stay tied. It's not like anyone else is gonna get lynched today.

I like Amber's defense a lot more than Cthsasza's. Amber's a player we'd actually like to keep around for future days.

Overall, though, I just have a very 'off' feel about this game. I feel like nobody actually knows what's going on, and mafia are in control. Something is very wrong somewhere. Also, -_- at all the new players that I can't get a read on because noobscum looks like noobtown to me.
GGQ
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Canada2653 Posts
May 09 2011 00:39 GMT
#1238
On May 09 2011 09:39 Kenpachi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 09 2011 09:37 GGQ wrote:
On May 09 2011 09:15 sandroba wrote:
They are both scum. If they weren't they would have already changed their vote.


This doesn't make any sense, seeing as voting for each other would just give them both +1 vote and they'd stay tied. It's not like anyone else is gonna get lynched today.

I like Amber's defense a lot more than Cthsasza's. Amber's a player we'd actually like to keep around for future days.

Overall, though, I just have a very 'off' feel about this game. I feel like nobody actually knows what's going on, and mafia are in control. Something is very wrong somewhere. Also, -_- at all the new players that I can't get a read on because noobscum looks like noobtown to me.

just think as if the new players are me. it helps


It really doesn't.
GGQ
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Canada2653 Posts
May 09 2011 00:53 GMT
#1250
On May 09 2011 09:44 chaoser wrote:
sandroba, Cthsazsa probably is actually retarded townie, if they were both mafia I wouldn't have a problem with letting either of them die. The fact that it's so even between the two suggests that one is indeed a mafia and the other is probably town. Amber has a stronger case and so I'm voting for him.


Cthsazsa contributes nothing of value, failing to provide any defenses for his scummy play. He flounders around sweating under pressure, not sure what to do. Meanwhile Amber provides a solid defense explaining all his actions in depth, which no one has refuted, and he has the stronger case? Yeah, right. You are making this too personal. You just want to push the lynch to see if you were right about Amber.
GGQ
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Canada2653 Posts
May 09 2011 00:56 GMT
#1254
On May 09 2011 09:54 chaoser wrote:
I refuted it, go back to read my analysis of it. It's not personal. You'


Your analysis was completely circular.
GGQ
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Canada2653 Posts
May 10 2011 03:00 GMT
#1437
Yo vig here, just shot redtooth because I'm quite sure he's gf. Cross your fingers.
GGQ
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Canada2653 Posts
May 10 2011 03:02 GMT
#1440
Meh, I tried.
GGQ
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Canada2653 Posts
May 16 2011 02:05 GMT
#2057
On May 16 2011 02:07 chaoser wrote:

GGQ
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Canada2653 Posts
May 30 2011 03:01 GMT
#2633
Welp, not what I was expecting tbh.
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