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On March 20 2011 07:50 Tackster wrote: /in btw this is my roomate so be nice to him  | ||
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If he is not blue, then: -He's taking a huuuuge risk -Why hasn't a blue cc'd Kav's argument is pretty meh also. Why not elect a confirmed town mayor, and he can listen to all the vet's scumhunting. Its not like bumatlarge is bad either,,, If we elect a scum veteran player as mayor, then it will be 200x harder for us to lynch him. He will be able to wriggle out of most cases against him. A confirmed town that can take advice from all the vets in the game is better than an unconfirmed vet. | ||
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On March 24 2011 19:12 Jackal58 wrote: What? Semi-claim blue? You guys have to ask yourselves a question. Would any other blues come forward to confirm bum? No they wouldn't. Not until much later in the game. But a bunch of bullet proof black aligned players would very much try to make a blue claim. Their best bet to win is getting one as mayor. They can only lose if we lynch them. I'm not buying bum's story. I'm not buying it one bit. I'm also loooking really hard at those of you that are saying he's blue and will get your vote for mayor. Keep your eyes on them guys. Our black team may have just reared its ugly head. So if bum is black, WHY HASN'T A BLUE CCD? | ||
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Making his voters feel uneasy about voting for him is scum tactics 101. FOS Jackal | ||
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On March 24 2011 21:12 Jackal58 wrote: Please. Save it. Their are 4 blues listed in the OP. One of them "accidentally" lets it slip? So another comes out to confirm him? And now scum has half of the blues on the table? C'mon. It's a bs claim. It's damn near foolproof. No blue with a half a brain is going to confirm him. Don't you get it? A blue doesn't need to claim to confirm him unless a mafia ccs. Mafia cc = 2 blues exposed for a mafia lynch day one. In that case, one of the blues will be mayor and as such unkillable, and we can simply put a medic on the second one. GG If bum IS mafia, then a blue should absolutely 100% cc right now. Until that happens, anyone giving a bullshit reason for not voting bum as mayor should be at the top of the lynch list. | ||
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On March 24 2011 22:01 Jackal58 wrote: If another blue wants to confirm his alignment I'm all ears. - NO! Another blue should only claim if there is a counterclaim. Trying to bait one to come out is FUCKING SCUMMY TO THE EXTREME If another blue wants to burst his bubble I'm all ears. Yes, thats the point. Unless this happens assume bum clear Either way it's lose/lose for town. We lose bum if he's blue. He'll be mayor, how do we lose him??????? We lose another blue if he's not. Or we lose 2 if another blue confirms him. Counterclaim gets elected mayor, supporter is mediced, bum the scum is lynched. Free mafia for day 1 lynch and we have confirmed town as mayor. How is that good for town???? It's not. How is that good for black???? You already answered that. | ||
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If he's not: There will be a cc Whats not to get? | ||
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On March 24 2011 23:45 Kavdragon wrote: iGrok might be excusable because of he's newish, but I'm inclined to disbelieve that you would fail so hard on your logic Decon... Scum hunters cannot tell the mayor what to push if they are dead. Besides, it's not like the mayor has some magical ability to bend the town to his will. When I was mayor in XXXVI, I was able to control the lynches because I was one of the only active scum hunters, Not because I was mayor. Mayor was only the shield I used so that I COULD hunt scum without dieing. This is about protecting the people that are going to be hit by the mafia early and often. Read the pre-game, we already had the discussion about who the mafia would hit: If they don't hit the vets/analysts they will be caught. If bum cannot analyse then the mafia would LOVE to see him as mayor, because it's protecting someone who they wouldn't have hit anyways. I want to stay active, and bring the pain to the red/black teams. I can't do this if I am dead. Vote for Kav. If this doesn't make sense, please let me know and I'll try to explain it more simply. So you claim that its better to have a unconfirmed good scumhunter as mayor as opposed to a confirmed good scumhunter with an entire confirmed circle of scumhunters behind him. While we don't know if that team is good or not, surely there is no contest here? | ||
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On March 25 2011 03:40 Kavdragon wrote: No, my argument was that Bum would/will not be a good scum hunter. I am/would be. If he's a good scum hunter, then he is the best choice for town. At this point, I don't think the town wants to take a risk on electing anti-town, and I don't have the time to prove that i'm anti-town. I submit my campaign, but I hope that people with protection abilities will seriously consider me for protection. (Hopefully my play will make me a good/obvious choice by the end of the day, so don't take my word for it.) Best of luck Bum! You have time to scumhunt and be awesome but no time to make an argument to show you are town? | ||
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On March 25 2011 06:49 orgolove wrote: There's still nothing that proves that bum is actually a blue as he claims to be. He could just as easily have a roleswitching/godfather role that is practically impossible to prove in a game such as this that has no reveal on death. I don't understand why you guys are blindly trusting his claim. We've been burned by the reds before... And I love how bum immediately puts me under his suspicion list because I'm not blindly sheeping like the rest of the town. Anyway. If push comes to shove, I'd rather support Kavdragon than you. Wait where did you get this from? I don't see it anywhere in the OP. | ||
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On March 25 2011 06:56 LSB wrote: There will be reveal on death... Yeah, thank god for that. If there was no reveal then bum's plan would be sunk | ||
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On March 25 2011 07:10 orgolove wrote: Damn, I'm confusing this with the other game that had no role reveal upon death with this game's dice roll bots upon modkill/ Bum, you're immediately resorting to accusing me just because I'm focusing on the more questionable aspects of your candidacy. I'd think it's logical to extensively question such an early roleclaim... Do blues know who each other are? Is this a mason group? You should probably read the OP a bit more carefully | ||
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On March 25 2011 08:35 Jackal58 wrote: Everybody is green til they flip. Your paranoia of black leads me to believe you are red. That would leave darm as black. LSB making you scum. That's deliciously hilarious. I agree, pretty good chance LSB is red from how he is reacting. | ||
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On March 25 2011 08:39 annul wrote: holy fucking shit will ANYONE, a single person, in the entire game, challenge my MATHEMATICAL analysis of the item game and why it is beneficial to give mayorship to an item game player? i dont care if you think i am a scum, because my MATH is sound. if im scum, nominate someone else. an item game player needs to be mayor. Item game: -Town mayor good -Mafia mayor bad -3rd P mayor bad 33% chance of good Actual game: -Town mayor good -Blue mayor good -Mafia mayor bad -3rd P mayor bad 50% chance of good Non-item game is better See how pointless arguing maths is? You can't just reduce a game to stats, you have to take meta into account. | ||
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On March 25 2011 08:44 annul wrote: what? are you just trolling or do you seriously think that its 50% chance for a "good" outcome in the actual game? No, that wasn't a serious analysis. I was merely pointing out that I too can pull figures from my ass and say the maths are sound if they add up. By electing a town mayor from the item game you do increase the chance of town winning it. That is obvious, but your other arguments are terrible. -Electing mafia as mayor essentially is an autoloss in that case -Electing a black is bad too. People are less inclined to lynch a mayor unless there is a lot more evidence against them, so it will increase his survivability. Finally, and this is the big bit, we give up having a 100% clear mayor with a circle behind him. | ||
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