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AMD_STorM
Profile Joined July 2004
China50 Posts
October 30 2004 11:51 GMT
#1
I'm T user, APM is about 220, but when VS Z,the average will up to 250
i wanna how kor pro gamers' hotkey persent so high
I love Sinky, I love STAR, I love Boxer
BigBalls
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
United States5354 Posts
Last Edited: 2004-10-30 11:52:55
October 30 2004 11:52 GMT
#2
Everyone keeps getting faster, yet nobody seems to improve. At least people dont seem to worry about it as much as they used to.

P user, 115 avg. sometimes gets up to 125 in a short game.
if you guys could use google and post direct links to the maphacks here it would be greatly appreciated. - Nazgul
Tossim1
Profile Joined June 2004
714 Posts
Last Edited: 2004-10-30 11:54:57
October 30 2004 11:54 GMT
#3
140 protoss
AMD_STorM
Profile Joined July 2004
China50 Posts
October 30 2004 11:57 GMT
#4
i always feel my APM not enough when playing.....i use Microsoft intelligent mouse, much better then MX500 i used, MX500 too big, but i want a Ktec 3500pro or 6000pro
I love Sinky, I love STAR, I love Boxer
tfeign
Profile Joined June 2004
United States2980 Posts
Last Edited: 2004-10-30 12:03:36
October 30 2004 11:58 GMT
#5
I average between 160 - 210 as P


By the way this topic has been done to death
dronebabo
Profile Blog Joined December 2003
10866 Posts
October 30 2004 11:59 GMT
#6
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oPtioNaLk
Profile Joined September 2004
Korea (South)564 Posts
October 30 2004 12:00 GMT
#7
Z User; 160-220 apm.
Usually around 180.
itzme_petey
Profile Blog Joined February 2004
United States1400 Posts
October 30 2004 12:04 GMT
#8
T player 190apm. hotkey is 3rd highest apm distribution. Still a god damn newb.
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Casper...
Profile Joined October 2002
Liberia4948 Posts
October 30 2004 12:06 GMT
#9
once upon a time i was 250ish
JAM THE FUCKER!
Casper...
Profile Joined October 2002
Liberia4948 Posts
October 30 2004 12:06 GMT
#10
apm is just talent and nonstop executing
JAM THE FUCKER!
blasian
Profile Joined October 2004
United States180 Posts
October 30 2004 12:09 GMT
#11
My average apm is like 125-130 without any useless clicks. In my opinion, i don't think anybody can go over 180 APM if they don't do any useless clicks.
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mrmin123 *
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
Korea (South)2971 Posts
October 30 2004 12:09 GMT
#12
i hit between 90-110. maybe up to 130 if its short and i'm micro-ing a lot.

P.
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AutumnLight
Profile Joined July 2003
Ukraine2488 Posts
October 30 2004 12:20 GMT
#13
I can hit 200 and I suck so apm is bs
Pray for War.
ShOoTiNg_SpElLs
Profile Joined July 2003
Korea (South)690 Posts
October 30 2004 12:20 GMT
#14
When Terran, usually 180-200+, 220+ in short games or TvZ's
When Toss, usually 150-200
and I don't play Zerg in 1v1's =P
pheered.user
Profile Joined March 2003
United States2603 Posts
October 30 2004 12:34 GMT
#15
bwchart says my average apm is 114 although that includes games of me obsing and saving reps etc id say its a fairly good estimate, i think what matters is what you can hit when muttitasking because my min apm in games can be 30 or 40 and my max can be 250.

also lets correlate this with skill <-- 5-1 pgtour 1152
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BigBalls
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
United States5354 Posts
October 30 2004 12:38 GMT
#16
max apm isnt very important either. ive had games v rek where my max is lower than his average lol.
if you guys could use google and post direct links to the maphacks here it would be greatly appreciated. - Nazgul
on.sp33d
Profile Joined October 2004
134 Posts
October 30 2004 12:43 GMT
#17
APM is BS IMHO, especially since now everyone is so focused on purposely raising their APM using logs and real-time APM charters. And everyone that knows about APM and believes in it have 200+ APM. And they usually suck (nothing impressive in beating people in the same old "tournament" maps with startegies ripped from pros). But that's just me.

But interestingly enough, I do admit I reach peaks during the time when I'm most focused in SC, and lowest when I'm restarting to play SC after quitting SC (thanks to games like Pokemon, CS, Diablo II, WC3, Dragon Raja, RO, GB, PS2 games, school, etc.) but that doesn't mean much. =/

The most significant APM measurement would be between *major* battles and whether it's consistent with the rest of the APM rating... and ironically enough, players with superior micro skills or those who win the battle might have a lower APM than their opponent at that time (as for macro, it's really not necessary to smash "z" or whatever a hundred times... buildings have only so many queues, and you'll probably only want to queue two at most, unless you're wealthy).

Oh, before the "hahastoopid u pobly only hvae 40mxa amp neway haha" starts, I have a game jsut barely over 11 minutes that has an average of 944 APM, 941 VAPM, and 1142 Max APM - more reasons on precisely why I think APM is BS. Or how about an observer having up to 2.5 times higher APM than the participants (which there's been increasing sightings of observers with insane APM rates). Or the possibility of having a mere, say 50 or so APM and beating a, say, a ladder finalist with 300+ APM?

But that's just me. =)
Good friends stab you in the front.
AMD_STorM
Profile Joined July 2004
China50 Posts
October 30 2004 12:44 GMT
#18
i wanna how some progamers get 300+ apm......my max apm can reach 400,but average never above 300 ....-_-;
I love Sinky, I love STAR, I love Boxer
XDawn
Profile Blog Joined February 2004
Canada4040 Posts
October 30 2004 12:52 GMT
#19
Zerg user
Highest Average: 298
Usual Average: 230+
Use it or lose it
BigBalls
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
United States5354 Posts
Last Edited: 2004-10-30 12:54:15
October 30 2004 12:53 GMT
#20
im sick of this topic already

who fucking cares what a progamers apm is. who cares what your own is.

lemme ask you this, lemme me ask you this....can you kick MY ass?
if you guys could use google and post direct links to the maphacks here it would be greatly appreciated. - Nazgul
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