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Vegalive
Profile Joined November 2010
United States96 Posts
January 30 2011 18:08 GMT
#1
Hi Guys, I wanted to share the way I've been injecting recently. The method is the same as listed here. The only thing I have changed is the hotkeys. I wasn't comfortable using the method before the ability to change hotkeys because of the need to pick my hand up off the keyboard and reach all the way across the keyboard to backspace. The keybinds I changed to make this work better for me are changing the function of space bar to a side mouse button and changing the backspace function to space bar. From here the method goes the same but obviously using the different keys.

1. Put all queens on 1 hotkey.
2. Select queens.
3. Press Shift - Spawn Larvae hotkey.
4. Press spacebar -> click in succession quickly to inject all hatcheries
5. Hatcheries injected quickly.

Some things you'll need to watch out for are not having 1 queen per hatchery or not having enough energy on a queen to inject because you just laid down a creep tumor or used transfuse. It takes a little bit to get used to and for a few games you'll mess up your hotkeys by hitting the wrongs buttons but overall I definitely think this is a very good method to injecting and it is more comfortable than the original method for me.
noobcakes
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States526 Posts
January 30 2011 18:24 GMT
#2
I think there was a previous thread on this.
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reneg
Profile Joined September 2010
United States859 Posts
January 30 2011 18:26 GMT
#3
cool, also, a lot of people also tend to use ` (tilde) as their backspace button, so they can keep space the same.

But yours works the same way, which is good, best to keep from reaching to backspace, i agree
moose...indian
bqzg
Profile Joined January 2011
64 Posts
January 30 2011 18:30 GMT
#4
I want to use this method, but whenever I do there's always periods in the game (when I'm taking a fourth, for example, or if I was defending against banshee harass) where I have more hatcheries than queens and they just run around the map doing god knows what. One way to solve that is to press 's' immediately after injecting, but then they still wouldn't actually inject the hatchery they're at. Is there a way to get around that?
AdmiralSimon
Profile Joined September 2010
United States25 Posts
January 30 2011 18:47 GMT
#5
You should usually have around 3 queens for 2 base and around then just make a new queen every time you get a new base so you'll always be 1 queen ahead of bases. This is best for defense, creep spread, and solving this problem.
azn_dude1
Profile Joined October 2010
162 Posts
January 30 2011 19:28 GMT
#6
Actually, changing backspace to shift-space is the best. I use this and it doesn't change the functionality of space. I only play zerg when I play random in team games, and it took a couple games to get used to but it's so much faster than the minimap method.
Vegalive
Profile Joined November 2010
United States96 Posts
January 30 2011 19:34 GMT
#7
On January 31 2011 03:30 bqzg wrote:
I want to use this method, but whenever I do there's always periods in the game (when I'm taking a fourth, for example, or if I was defending against banshee harass) where I have more hatcheries than queens and they just run around the map doing god knows what. One way to solve that is to press 's' immediately after injecting, but then they still wouldn't actually inject the hatchery they're at. Is there a way to get around that?



I'm not quite sure on how to get around this problem. Whenever I don't have enough queens for the hatcheries I usually just try to inject on the minimap or look individually at the hatcheries and decide on what to do but usually I try to keep 1 more queen that hatchery for creep spread. As far as I know this method only works whenever you have enough queens for the hatcheries you have.
Tudi
Profile Joined January 2011
Romania127 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-01 14:12:58
February 01 2011 14:11 GMT
#8
Love this combo, it's so much easier for me against the R-shift + Backspace default. In order not to mess the queen positioning I simply skip the hatchery that doesn't have a queen from the cycle. It's a bit difficult to skip the click and not send the queen running across the map but it grows on you. I also try to have a queen at the hatcheries with the closest rally points to where I want my army/drones to be.
b0ub0u
Profile Joined September 2009
Canada445 Posts
February 01 2011 14:18 GMT
#9
I always found that just putting all my queens on one key and pressing V and clicking all my hatches on the mini-map was the fastest way to to it. Very easy to do while attacking or managing other stuffs.
In the swarm we trust
Zero.Tha.Hero
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada155 Posts
February 01 2011 14:28 GMT
#10
The single queen hotkey + town camera method seems to be extremely popular, my only adjustment to the default commands was rebinding town camera from backspace to grave.
Scrimpton
Profile Joined August 2010
United Kingdom465 Posts
February 01 2011 14:49 GMT
#11
556677889900 queen set up just has so much extra control.. and the speed differential can be made up by actually practising the injection method.

There's already enough randomness in Zerg play without introducing the possibility of injections not working when you need them to, or queens wandering around the map.
Injecting.. and creep spread is one of the few things you have direct control over in a ZvX cling to it...

gentlemen.. cling to it.
Protoss is the only race with "pro" in it
asmo.0
Profile Joined August 2010
Norway318 Posts
February 01 2011 14:58 GMT
#12
I really havent found a better backspace button than CAPS, been using that since august, not just for larvae inject... I've tried this method, but am I the only one who gets annoyed when you suddenly realize 1 queen has walked her fat bottom half across map because A) the queen at that other hatch doesnt have enough energy or B) I have more hatches than queens (which is normal in every lategame situation.

I normally toggle between hatches with backspace quite often, especially when nothing special is happening, toggling through em all looking for things to do while macroing (backspace doesnt remove larvae/unitselections, so you can keep doing stuff with your fingers), and then just injecting where i see it required.
Super_bricklayer
Profile Joined May 2010
France104 Posts
February 01 2011 15:10 GMT
#13
For a player of my level ( "topish" diamond ) the method doesn't matter at all.
I actually think it's way more important do do it clean and surely instead of relaying on super fast hotkey trick that could make me mess around.

I still use a shortcut "trick" cause it's easier to use, but it's not super fast, i just have my town camera on F1 and i check if i got a queen near my hatch before clicking on it ( i don't spam at all ). I find sometimes my self click on minimap instead etc...

Well, my point is that there is no supreme way to rules them all, the most important is to think about it in time ( i do have one hatch on a hotkey so i can check the progress bar when i'm looking at other stuff ) and do it properly which mean no miss click possible. It's not a problem if it takes one second instead of 0.10...My games aren't that close at all.
Shadrak
Profile Joined August 2010
United States490 Posts
February 01 2011 15:16 GMT
#14
I also use a hotkey to select all queens, hit inject and then click all my hatcheries on the minimap. Its probably about as fast and doesn't require taking your camera away from whatever it is you were looking at.
dementrio
Profile Joined November 2010
678 Posts
February 01 2011 15:38 GMT
#15
On February 02 2011 00:10 Super_bricklayer wrote:
For a player of my level ( "topish" diamond ) the method doesn't matter at all.
I actually think it's way more important do do it clean and surely instead of relaying on super fast hotkey trick that could make me mess around.


I advise you to change your mind and start using some "trick". the problem with doing it manually for each hatch, using the minimap, or having every queen on a different hotkey is precisely that it takes too long to inject all the hatcheries, so while you are busy doing something else, like microing a battle or whatever, even if you do remember to inject you feel like you will be taking your attention elsewhere for too long and think "ok just let me finish this and then i'll inject". or you do go inject and lose the battle. at least thats how it went for me.
with the backspace method you will sometimes have your queen wander around the map like fools but you'll still inject more efficiently overall imo.
Super_bricklayer
Profile Joined May 2010
France104 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-01 16:50:07
February 01 2011 16:47 GMT
#16
On February 02 2011 00:38 dementrio wrote:
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On February 02 2011 00:10 Super_bricklayer wrote:
For a player of my level ( "topish" diamond ) the method doesn't matter at all.
I actually think it's way more important do do it clean and surely instead of relaying on super fast hotkey trick that could make me mess around.


I advise you to change your mind and start using some "trick". the problem with doing it manually for each hatch, using the minimap, or having every queen on a different hotkey is precisely that it takes too long to inject all the hatcheries, so while you are busy doing something else, like microing a battle or whatever, even if you do remember to inject you feel like you will be taking your attention elsewhere for too long and think "ok just let me finish this and then i'll inject". or you do go inject and lose the battle. at least thats how it went for me.
with the backspace method you will sometimes have your queen wander around the map like fools but you'll still inject more efficiently overall imo.

I disagree, if that happen only one time, how many cycle do you loose ? It's a serious question.

I do prefer having a queen inject method that takes me 1 even 2 seconds and do it 100% sure than one where i gaining something like 0.5 sec each cycle and once i hit mid game i've got the risk of missing several cycles and find queens wondering how the scenery is.

I don't say you should do all the injection without any help of the interface or any use of hotkeys at all, i'm just saying that it's not relevant to gain some milliseconds on that game. At the opposite, it can be a game ender to have your queens travelling sometimes off creep and loosing a lot of time .

I do use a towncamera shortcut, i just don't spam it so i have a look before injecting, sometimes i use the minimap method etc... But the how doesn't matter at all as long as it's works and you're used to ( Idra use one group for each queens, and his macro seems pretty ok to me ). It's the when that is most important imo, how you keep injecting right on time.

I just saying this cause i feel all those topics where everyone discuss about the best injects methods are kind of off point, it really doesn't matter at all to spent 10 APM instead of 5 to do it, even if it sound like you'll loosing twice the time, it's so small and all methods works fine as long as you're used to, it's so much more important to don't miss the timing that everything else feels futile.
bqzg
Profile Joined January 2011
64 Posts
February 02 2011 19:55 GMT
#17
I still think the minimap method is the best. It's faster than individual queen hotkeys and more reliable than the backspace method. Whenever I do the backspace trick I'm always afraid that I'll have just built a hatchery or something, in which case queens start wandering.
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
February 02 2011 19:58 GMT
#18
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=125725
https://twitter.com/#!/TorteDeLini (@TorteDeLini)
VoiceOfDecember
Profile Joined December 2010
Australia206 Posts
February 02 2011 23:49 GMT
#19
I changed my home key from backspace to Q. So exactly the same as backspace but use Q. Leaves my hand on the left hand side of my keyboard. Sure it really doesnt make too much of a difference but I prefer to have my hand over all my hotkeys so if need be I can do what I want asap. I've never had the issue of accidentally making queens either as you gotta select all hatches and press Q to make queens rather than selecting all queens and injecting. It's just what I personally prefer to do.
If I keep making drones and expanding while fending off their attacks, I'm sure to win...right?
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