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Vacations done, and bc wants fun. otherwise throw me on the replacement list. | ||
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Don't like it, think of a different one. Tweak it for the better, something. Saying you disagree with something and its a bad idea then going along with it is what leads towns to failure. Jesus. | ||
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If LSB wanted to be helpful he would have created 3-5 different options of role distribution. Or he could have opted to give his list a "randomized" element where instead of say "choose rolecop" it would be "choose investigative role". There are multiple holes. Add in that there are enough players in this version who know their own personal strengths that certain roles are going to benefit them more highly than others and will most likely just choose those regardless. The emphasis so far in this game is "lets make a list of easy to off targets for mafia / make it easy for them to infiltrate" instead of "lets scumhunt." Bad day 1 start | ||
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On January 08 2011 06:15 Fishball wrote: This is exactly the main thing I've been trying to say; The main difference between Radfield's plan and his. Huge difference, to be exact. Oh, and just so it's know to the public. I'm calling BC Mafia/SK! I'm calling Fishball on massive troll | ||
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Your not the only one. | ||
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On January 09 2011 16:47 Fishball wrote: Unless I'm missing something, which very well may be (haven't been following closely), people are fake claiming? If your actually a 6, then there have been a fair bit of fake claimers. IE people above you. Unless my insanely tired mind has failed me, there is no possible way for you to be between me and eiii and bum unless You are lying about your number or a ton of people ahead of you lied about their number. | ||
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On January 09 2011 17:35 Barundar wrote: I think it’s possible without any mistakes or fake claims if the list looks like this: 1. deconduo [4] [7] 2. Kenpachi [7] [3] 3. kitaman27 [9] [1] 4. CubEdIn [11] [3] 5. Amber[Light] [11] [2] 6. Barundar [13] [10] 7. LayOffRage[1] [1] 8. bumatlarge [1] [1] 9. Jackal58 [6] [9] 10. Fishball [6] [20] 11. HaploPaithan [2] [1-2] 12. Eiii [2] [3] 13. BloodyC0bbler [2] [6] 14. zeks [3] [1] 15. Misder [3] [2] 16. aidnai [3] [3] 17. JimboSilvers [3] [3] 18. GGQ [5] [3] 19. Beneather [5] [15] 20. Pigsquirrel [5] [x] 21. Divinek [5] [1] 22. LSB [5] [1] All of the bolded names are ones that doubled up twice in the picking. As such they were supposed to be pushed to the back of the queue a second time in terms of picking (unless I have understood how this works incorrectly? although the example in the OP appears to be what i am saying). As such for 6 to appear AFTER the two doubled up ones is next to impossible. Just as a 6 appearing infront of the group of two's is next to impossible as the 6's would be processed after the 2's and as none of our numbers doubled up a second time. Also. How did two 11's appear before the 1's, 6s and 2's if they doubled up one one number as well. How did they appear before 13 which is the only person who claimed 13 who had a more unique number. The only way is for a) people to be lying or b) ace screwed up. IF I am looking at the drafts horribly wrong someone feel free to correct me, but as it stands now with how I understand the drafting, it makes next to no sense. also, 11, 3 above 11, 2? Is that possible? | ||
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On January 10 2011 00:35 LSB wrote: Don't worry about what is possible right now. If we keep it unclear, mafia are more likely to mess up fakeclaims. We have day 1 to figure this out anyways. Bloodycobbler what did you pick? already said what mine is above. | ||
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2. Kenpachi [7] [3] 3. kitaman27 [9] [1] 4. CubEdIn [11] [3] 5. Amber[Light] [11] [2] 6. Barundar [13] [10] 7. LayOffRage[1] [1] (only possible combination bump bum back in queue and be infront of him) 8. bumatlarge [1] [1] 9. Jackal58 [6] [9] 10. Fishball [6] [20] 11. HaploPaithan [2] [1] 12. Eiii [2] [3] 13. BloodyC0bbler [2] [6] 14. zeks [3] [1] 15. Misder [3] [2] 16. aidnai [3] [3] 17. JimboSilvers [3] [3] 18. GGQ [5] [3] 19. Beneather [5] [15] 20. Pigsquirrel [5] [16-20] 21. Divinek [5] [1] 22. LSB [5] [1] as of right now the only two non claimers are pigsquirrel and Layoffrage, and due to where they appear in the list they only have one set of possible numbers for both of them. Regardless after this list of claiming it is obvious people are lying. With this as the case your entire role list is going to get destroyed LSB. People who are lying are most likely going to be people who won't follow your draft pick anyway. | ||
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Its pretty obvious most of the fake claiming is going on in the first half of the draft list which gives us a pretty good start on where to start looking. | ||
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On January 10 2011 01:05 LSB wrote: I'd rather have pigsquirrel and LayoffRage claim before making any full conclusion because so many different possibilities are ot there. BC, we need to still follow the plan because the blue roles are going to be taken anyways at the top. In addition, spots 5 and 7 are already role denial spots which can give an immediate red read if the mafia misuses the roles, so we could plug a small part of the hole. there is actually no other number layoffrage can claim, nor can piq. IF they claim something else you know more liars have appeared. regardless of their numbers, we already have the issue with cube and amber where we know 1 is lying. Take the information we have and run with it, don't just wait. We won't find mafia by passively waiting, we have to analyze from the get go. | ||
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On January 10 2011 10:12 Fishball wrote: Preliminary Mafia list. - BloodyC0bbler - zeks - Misder - aidnai/JimboSilvers (pick one) I was the one who pointed out the abnormal picture, but I never once directed town to look for those players who might be lying. It doesn't make sense for town/mafia to lie. There is no gain whatsoever, besides drawing attention to themselves. It was fortunate that this was sorted out by Ace, but nice try there BC. Oh, like I mentioned before, if I'm town, there is a good chance BC is red. 14. zeks [3] [1] 15. Misder [3] [2] 16. aidnai [3] [3] 17. JimboSilvers [3] [3] 3-1, 3-2, 3-3. Really? I'm picking aidnai due to this post. Are you daft? No, you can't be this bad... I hope. You may have "pointed it out" however I did the posting that pointed out how strange the list picks were. It had basically meant fake claiming or host screwup, my bad chose the wrong one. Don't try to play it off as if you did real work on it however as you did not. | ||
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On January 10 2011 10:23 Fishball wrote: Die Fixed your post. You never care my alignment, you just want me dead. | ||
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Heading off to work and won't be back tonight, but LoR is the safest lynch target for today. Out of myself, fishball and him we are most likely the three most experienced players, and I know i'm town, which means at least one of fishball and him is most likely red. Out of those two, LoR has given the most reasons as why he is most likely a better lynch target. | ||
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On January 13 2011 15:07 LSB wrote: I response to Aidnai's question about me being godfather I replied I drafted Godfather and flipped Vanilla instead. However I did not say anything Firstly, it would cause unessisary cofustion for the town Secondly, it would deny the godfather fakeclaim against DT checks. Once I let loose that the godfather is wild, all mafia will claim godfather once the DT checks them. Lastly, I suspected some other townie tried to deny the role (because in reality, the godfather isn't that benificial to the mafia), so I kept silent so that I could vertify a godfather claim. That other townie would be me -_- Like you however I flipped vanilla. Here I was holding back waiting to see if you would claim that you got it and nail you on it. The joys of mafia. Now before you ream me for being inactive, I am crashing, will be up in like 6 hours and will catch up on everything then and start posting. | ||
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5 potential deaths witch saved one. 4 ended up being dead. We know if you read the role list mafia have starting KP of 1 We also know cpr doctor and joat can act night 1 Each SK (if we have more than one) has a kp of 1 Now, the only possible way for there to be this many deaths is to have cpr / joat both active with 1 red kp and 1 SK or 2 sk, 1 red and 1 cpr. Now, before everyone talks about the likelyhood of there being a joat or not, keep in mind that div managed to snag hider which was supposed to be taken before he got to choose, as well as ggq managing to get day vig well after he should have been able to take it. People will attempt to snag any role they feel they want. Case and point with RoL aiming for traitor while someone else had swiped it already. Copycat may be gone, as could joat, but since both are pretty potent roles it isn't beyond the realm of possibility that they both got snagged anyway. Merely assume until we can prove otherwise that they are still in circulation. Next. Everyone is spending time on finding the traitor, awesome. We know hes one of deconduo (cpr) Kenpachi (godfather) kitaman27 Fishball Amber[Light] CubEdIn Of those 8, 2 are dead, and 2 claimed their roles already. that leaves 4 possible players to have the traitor role. We now have exactly who to look at for terms of who is most likely traitor. If we are lucky we may also have 1 red in that list hurrah. Now, onto the kenpachi situation. He opted to "deny" the gf role from the mafia, a role he felt would be too powerful in their hands. However, why would he opt to take GF? There are far more potent roles for mafia to choose that he could have denied. Joat, day vig, night vig, veteran, bulletproof, copycat. All of these roles are better to deny then the GF. Why you ask? GF is still trackable, and should still be spotted by bulletbill. Sure gf has 1 kp if hes lynched (and only on those who voted for him), but overall the role is not nearly as powerful as one of the ones I listed above. The reason of choosing a role purely to deny it from the mafia seems far too unlikely. Either he has an ulterior motive on top of that, or huge FoS on him. | ||
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